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Marty H

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:11 pm
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On Jan 30, 5:08 pm, Smeeegles <m....DeleteThis@here.net.au> wrote:
> corks wrote:
> >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>
> You could have put a warning before that post!

be gentle on Corks, there is a rumour that Wayne Carey is in Perth ATM
and the constabulary and a little on edge, they have used all their
capsicum spray in last nights chicken salad.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:41 pm
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G-S wrote:

> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
> (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.

Injuries? I don't think the cyclist was injured for more than
a second or two.

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:48 pm
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"Marty H" <hytram RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 30, 5:08 pm, Smeeegles <m... RemoveThis @here.net.au> wrote:
>> corks wrote:
>> >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>>
>> You could have put a warning before that post!
>
> be gentle on Corks, there is a rumour that Wayne Carey is in Perth ATM
> and the constabulary and a little on edge, they have used all their
> capsicum spray in last nights chicken salad.
>
> mh
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:48 pm
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"Marty H" <hytram.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 30, 5:08 pm, Smeeegles <m....DeleteThis@here.net.au> wrote:
>> corks wrote:
>> >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>>
>> You could have put a warning before that post!
>
> be gentle on Corks, there is a rumour that Wayne Carey is in Perth ATM
> and the constabulary and a little on edge, they have used all their
> capsicum spray in last nights chicken salad.
>
> mh

ooops, yeah what is that guy doing, trying to get locked up by every kown
police \force
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:16 am
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Michael Sierchio wrote:
> G-S wrote:
>
>> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
>> (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries
>> worse.
>
> Injuries? I don't think the cyclist was injured for more than
> a second or two.
>

That's the second person... don't you lot want to leave a neat looking
corpse for your open coffin funeral?

Do you really want to make your local funeral directors job that hard?

Funeral directors are people too you know!


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(Msg. 21) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:55 am
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G-S wrote:

> Funeral directors are people too you know!

I concede that you have a point.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:24 am
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"VTR250" <google.DeleteThis@m-streeter.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Jan 30, 10:48 am, bikerbetty <bikerbe....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 30, 9:53 am, "swerdna....@gmail.com" <swerdna.....DeleteThis@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 29, 1:26 pm, G-S <ge....DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > > corks wrote:
>> > > >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>>
>> > > About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
>> > > (based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>>
>> > > I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
>> > > (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries
>> > > worse.
>>
>> > > G-S
>>
>> > Okay. I'm just not getting it... Maybe I'm paying too much attention
>> > to the "end" of the deal... What went wrong here? It looks like the
>> > truck just overran the guy on the scooter. Am I missing something?
>>
>> I suspect the truck driver was up so high and looking ahead at HIS (or
>> maybe HER) eye level, and didn't even SEE the rider 'way down there'
>> and so close in front crossing his path (or at least, that's what I
>> would expect him to say... just another SMIDSY....) Yuk...
>>
>> betty
>
> I disagree...
> 1. Judging by the text on the traffic camera, this happened in China.
> Note that in China they drive on the right (although this is a multi-
> lane road).
> 2. Note also that one car (the first car) goes straight on in lane
> 2.
> 3. The moped rider is going much slower than the blue van in front of
> him.
> 4. He starts off at the right-hand side of the lane and moves to the
> left-hand side, then continues over the dotted line. He doesn't
> appear to be overtaking anything, so I guess he is moving into lane 2,
> the left-turn lane.
> 5. The truck appears to start moving to his/her left, into a gap in
> lane 2 also. I believe the truck wants to get into the middle lane
> immediately after the left turn. The truck begins to occupy lane 2 at
> the stop line that marks the junction. After starting the maneuver,
> the truck sees the moped too late, and swerves back into the ahead-
> only lane, lane 1.
> 6. The moped riders body bursts and is cut into at least two pieces by
> the rear wheels of the truck.
> 7. None of the other cars stop to help.
>
> Conclusion: the moped rider was at fault -- he/she should have been
> in the correct lane about 100m earlier. The moped rider was doing a
> left turn in front of the truck. The truck driver was going straight-
> on much faster than the left-turning moped. The truck driver was busy
> executing a maneuver, and checking to his/her left and behind the
> truck. I also suspect the moped was under-powered for the road it was
> travelling on and couldn't go any faster.

The rider was totally unaware of the truck
The truckie was travelling to fast.
I think those 2 things are related.
The truckie should have sounded his horn just when they both came into shot
and continued his turn and it should have been ok.
I dont think it is obvious that the truckie was trying to avoid the rider
I dont think its even obvious he was aware of the rider until he hit him
I hope they gave the truckie a breath test
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