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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:30 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:30 am
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On Jan 29, 6:44 am, "corks" <trigart... DeleteThis @nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote:
> http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...

OMG. Yikes. Wow. I don't even know what to say to that. I should have
stopped watching about half way through.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:53 pm
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On Jan 29, 1:26 pm, G-S <ge... RemoveThis @castbus.com.au> wrote:
> corks wrote:
> >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>
> About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
> (based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>
> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
> (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>
> G-S

Okay. I'm just not getting it... Maybe I'm paying too much attention
to the "end" of the deal... What went wrong here? It looks like the
truck just overran the guy on the scooter. Am I missing something?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:18 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:48 pm
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On Jan 30, 9:53 am, "swerdna....@gmail.com" <swerdna.....TakeThisOut@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Jan 29, 1:26 pm, G-S <ge....TakeThisOut@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>
> > corks wrote:
> > >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2....
>
> > About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
> > (based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>
> > I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
> > (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>
> > G-S
>
> Okay. I'm just not getting it... Maybe I'm paying too much attention
> to the "end" of the deal... What went wrong here? It looks like the
> truck just overran the guy on the scooter. Am I missing something?

I suspect the truck driver was up so high and looking ahead at HIS (or
maybe HER) eye level, and didn't even SEE the rider 'way down there'
and so close in front crossing his path (or at least, that's what I
would expect him to say... just another SMIDSY....) Yuk...

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:20 pm
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corks wrote:
> http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F...share.y
>

About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
(based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).

I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
(understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.



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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:22 pm
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"G-S" <geoff.DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
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> corks wrote:
>> http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F...share.y
>
> About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person (based
> on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>
> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver (understandable
> reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>
>
>
> G-S
>

Wouldn't have made any difference after the front wheels went right over the
rider
but it appears that the truck driver would have been at fault, even though
the bike rider should have been in the other lane to turn
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:19 pm
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George W. Frost wrote:

> Wouldn't have made any difference after the front wheels went right over the
> rider
> but it appears that the truck driver would have been at fault, even though
> the bike rider should have been in the other lane to turn

*phew* it wasn't the riders fault. Rider - 1 : truck - 0

Nev..
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:19 pm
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"Nev.." <idiot RemoveThis @mindless.com> wrote in message
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> George W. Frost wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't have made any difference after the front wheels went right over
>> the rider
>> but it appears that the truck driver would have been at fault, even
>> though the bike rider should have been in the other lane to turn
>
> *phew* it wasn't the riders fault. Rider - 1 : truck - 0
>
> Nev..
> '07 XB12X

wrong way around, truck driver 1 and no more rider = 0
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:45 pm
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On Jan 30, 10:48 am, bikerbetty <bikerbe... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 9:53 am, "swerdna....@gmail.com" <swerdna.... DeleteThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 1:26 pm, G-S <ge... DeleteThis @castbus.com.au> wrote:
>
> > > corks wrote:
> > > >http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>
> > > About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
> > > (based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>
> > > I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
> > > (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>
> > > G-S
>
> > Okay. I'm just not getting it... Maybe I'm paying too much attention
> > to the "end" of the deal... What went wrong here? It looks like the
> > truck just overran the guy on the scooter. Am I missing something?
>
> I suspect the truck driver was up so high and looking ahead at HIS (or
> maybe HER) eye level, and didn't even SEE the rider 'way down there'
> and so close in front crossing his path (or at least, that's what I
> would expect him to say... just another SMIDSY....) Yuk...
>
> betty

I disagree...
1. Judging by the text on the traffic camera, this happened in China.
Note that in China they drive on the right (although this is a multi-
lane road).
2. Note also that one car (the first car) goes straight on in lane
2.
3. The moped rider is going much slower than the blue van in front of
him.
4. He starts off at the right-hand side of the lane and moves to the
left-hand side, then continues over the dotted line. He doesn't
appear to be overtaking anything, so I guess he is moving into lane 2,
the left-turn lane.
5. The truck appears to start moving to his/her left, into a gap in
lane 2 also. I believe the truck wants to get into the middle lane
immediately after the left turn. The truck begins to occupy lane 2 at
the stop line that marks the junction. After starting the maneuver,
the truck sees the moped too late, and swerves back into the ahead-
only lane, lane 1.
6. The moped riders body bursts and is cut into at least two pieces by
the rear wheels of the truck.
7. None of the other cars stop to help.

Conclusion: the moped rider was at fault -- he/she should have been
in the correct lane about 100m earlier. The moped rider was doing a
left turn in front of the truck. The truck driver was going straight-
on much faster than the left-turning moped. The truck driver was busy
executing a maneuver, and checking to his/her left and behind the
truck. I also suspect the moped was under-powered for the road it was
travelling on and couldn't go any faster.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:07 pm
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On Jan 30, 5:45 pm, VTR250 <goo....DeleteThis@m-streeter.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jan 30, 10:48 am, bikerbetty <bikerbe....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> 7. None of the other cars stop to help.
BTW the reason nobody stops to help is because they're a bunch of
mindless automatons in cages. They 'see' the accident but mentally
they're in neutral -- they don't think it's anything to do with them
and their task is to get home, so the accident becomes an obstacle to
be navigated around.
>
> Conclusion: the moped rider was at fault -- he/she should have been
> in the correct lane about 100m earlier. The moped rider was doing a
> left turn in front of the truck. The truck driver was going straight-
> on much faster than the left-turning moped. The truck driver was busy
> executing a maneuver, and checking to his/her left and behind the
> truck. I also suspect the moped was under-powered for the road it was
> travelling on and couldn't go any faster.

....and another thing, trucks=death. Stay behind/ahead of trucks when
they are moving. Pass when they are stationary and get out of the way
before they start moving. I know someone who was run over by a large
truck and survived. He broke a lot of bones (interestingly every
single rib was broken twice, amongst others).
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:18 am
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George W. Frost wrote:
> "G-S" <geoff.TakeThisOut@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:13pv2up8mqlqg84@corp.supernews.com...
>> corks wrote:
>>> http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F...share.y
>> About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person (based
>> on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>>
>> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver (understandable
>> reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>>
>>
>>
>> G-S
>>
>
> Wouldn't have made any difference after the front wheels went right over the
> rider
>

It does actually... it would have left a neater looking corpse.


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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:18 am
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After watching it 3 times (well the first part) the cyclist is in front
of the truck the whole video.

Even so .. some kinda warning would be nice, Will. My 4yo was at my
shoulder when that started.

bikerbetty wrote:
> On Jan 30, 9:53 am, "swerdna....@gmail.com" <swerdna.... RemoveThis @gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 1:26 pm, G-S <ge... RemoveThis @castbus.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> corks wrote:
>>>> http://www.perthstreetbikes.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2...
>>> About what one would expect when a heavy vehicle runs over a person
>>> (based on what I've seen of heavy vehicles running over animals).
>>> I would add however that hard braking by the truck driver
>>> (understandable reaction that it is) actually tends to make injuries worse.
>>> G-S
>> Okay. I'm just not getting it... Maybe I'm paying too much attention
>> to the "end" of the deal... What went wrong here? It looks like the
>> truck just overran the guy on the scooter. Am I missing something?
>
> I suspect the truck driver was up so high and looking ahead at HIS (or
> maybe HER) eye level, and didn't even SEE the rider 'way down there'
> and so close in front crossing his path (or at least, that's what I
> would expect him to say... just another SMIDSY....) Yuk...
>
> betty
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:18 am
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:29 am
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> `kin hell !
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> --
> Boru
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