Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?..

I've been in a few accidents on motorcycles but I still think choice
is the best thing regarding helmets. The sound of your helmet grinding
on pavement after some 90 year old bitch driving a Caddy pulls out in
front of you is the main reason I ever wear a helmet.
In the city I wear a full face , no matter what, on the highway it's
a lot easier to predict what the cagers are going to do, so usually no
helmet.



On 2 Jul 2003 16:28:13 -0700, cayla1969 DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Cayla) wrote:

 >Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders? OVER the age of 21
 >
 >Shouldnt WE have the freedom to have the choice!!??
 >
 >Vote Yes!!!
 >
 >http://www.geocities.com/cayla1969/votekyw.html



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 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

Here in Hawaii, you do have that option and we exercise it. You can do the
same if you can persuade your legislature to amend current laws, that's what
we did.

Ride the way you want to....just safely.
"Cayla" <cayla1969 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders? OVER the age of
21
 >
 > Shouldnt WE have the freedom to have the choice!!??
 >
 > Vote Yes!!!
 >
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 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to sign a
waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid disability by
doing so.
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

"Robkamel" <dwarner1.TakeThisOut@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
 > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to sign
a
 > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid disability
by
 > doing so.
 >
 >
I'm all for let the rider decide. Just don't raise my medical insurance to
pay for all the veggies that are in the hospital on life support. During my
motorcyle safety course, I have two words that describe those that choose
not to wear helmets - "organ donors". I firmly believe in helmets because
one saved my life when a cage broadsided me. So I would wear one based on
personal beliefs and experience even if it wasn't mandated by law in
Virginia.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

"Robkamel" <dwarner1.TakeThisOut@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
 > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to =
sign a
 > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid =
disability by
 > doing so.
 >=20

You then must be in favor of forced sterilization of women who squirt =
out crack babies, no?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

"RedDevil" <reddevil@cox(nospam).net> wrote in message =
news:W7LMa.1967$ZT5.380@news2.east.cox.net...
 > "Robkamel" <dwarner1 DeleteThis @rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
  > > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to =
sign
 > a
  > > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid =
disability
 > by
  > > doing so.
  > >
  > >
 > I'm all for let the rider decide. Just don't raise my medical =
insurance to
 > pay for all the veggies that are in the hospital on life support. =
During my
 > motorcyle safety course, I have two words that describe those that =
choose
 > not to wear helmets - "organ donors". I firmly believe in helmets =
because
 > one saved my life when a cage broadsided me. So I would wear one =
based on
 > personal beliefs and experience even if it wasn't mandated by law in
 > Virginia.
 >=20

What about the drunk drivers in cages and the pain and suffering they =
cause? They are the greater menace.

BTW - do you also wear a full one piece leather riding suit?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

Whew........that was one long leap in logic. LOL The ability to drive (or
ride in this case) is a priviledge, not a right. Thus, there can be no
"right" to choose, just like there in no right to choose whether or not to
stop at stop lights under the guise of "freedom to choose" or "freedom of
expression". On the other hand, if you can convince enough lawmakers to
grant the priviledge of choosing whether or not to risk your life, thats
cool, I just hope those of us who are smarter don't get stuck paying the
bills. This whole helmet thing is only a hairsbreadth away from fighting for
your right to nail shit to your forehead with a nailgun.
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

It's not a leap of logic at all.

I clearly remember when there were no laws requiring the wearing of =
helmets. I also remember when motorcycles were not required to have =
turn signals. This was in the 1960s.

Helmets were sold then and you could wear one if you wanted. It was the =
same with turn signals. Kits were available to mount them on your =
motorcycle.

It was your choice.

It's the same with smoking crack and whoring yourself out to get it. =
It's your choice. However, the consequences to society of this =
particular heinous activity are far greater than some motorcycle rider =
who doesn't wear a helmet, gets into an accident, and becomes a =
life-long vegetable.

Joe

"Robkamel" <dwarner1.DeleteThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message =
news:fbMMa.32533$iZ3.11827@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
 > Whew........that was one long leap in logic. LOL The ability to drive =
(or
 > ride in this case) is a priviledge, not a right. Thus, there can be no
 > "right" to choose, just like there in no right to choose whether or =
not to
 > stop at stop lights under the guise of "freedom to choose" or "freedom =
of
 > expression". On the other hand, if you can convince enough lawmakers =
to
 > grant the priviledge of choosing whether or not to risk your life, =
thats
 > cool, I just hope those of us who are smarter don't get stuck paying =
the
 > bills. This whole helmet thing is only a hairsbreadth away from =
fighting for
 > your right to nail shit to your forehead with a nailgun.
 >=20
 >=20
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

What do we ER staff call motorcycle crash victims who do wear helmets?
paraplegics...

~D

"RedDevil" <reddevil@cox(nospam).net> wrote in message
news:W7LMa.1967$ZT5.380@news2.east.cox.net...
 > "Robkamel" <dwarner1.RemoveThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
  > > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to
sign
 > a
  > > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid disability
 > by
  > > doing so.
  > >
  > >
 > I'm all for let the rider decide. Just don't raise my medical insurance
to
 > pay for all the veggies that are in the hospital on life support. During
my
 > motorcyle safety course, I have two words that describe those that choose
 > not to wear helmets - "organ donors". I firmly believe in helmets because
 > one saved my life when a cage broadsided me. So I would wear one based on
 > personal beliefs and experience even if it wasn't mandated by law in
 > Virginia.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

Here in Texas we do have a choice as it should be. It's none of anyones
Damn business if we wear them or not.
Period...


In article <LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, "Robkamel"
<dwarner1.RemoveThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote:

 > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to sign a
 > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid disability by
 > doing so.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

In article <rJMMa.360522$VP.54446298@twister.neo.rr.com>,
"closed" <closed RemoveThis @neo.rr.com> wrote:

 > What do we ER staff call motorcycle crash victims who do wear helmets?
 > paraplegics...

What's your pet name for people who get mangled in car wrecks? How about
folks who breathe in little cubes of glass? Or people who get flug out
of cars because they didn't wear a seat belt -- do you have cute names
for them?


Actually, I have noticed a tendency for hospital staff to latch onto one
thing about any particular patient and use that as their identifying
trait. For instance, when I was in hospital overnight for minor heart
surgery, I got pegged as the hockey player even though I do a whole lot
more than that. My roommate, whose spleen had burst and needed removing
because of a motorcycle accident, was pegged as the risk-taker. (BTW, he
was wearing helmet and full leathers. Other than the spleen and
temporary nerve damage to his leg, he had no injuries.)

--
Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
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Joe727 wrote:
 >
 > "RedDevil" <reddevil@cox(nospam).net> wrote in message news:W7LMa.1967$ZT5.380@news2.east.cox.net...
  > > "Robkamel" <dwarner1.RemoveThis@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
  > > news:LDKMa.31827$iZ3.11981@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
   > > > I'll vote yes when all those who don't want to wear helmets agree to sign
  > > a
   > > > waiver that states they're ineligible for any government paid disability
  > > by
   > > > doing so.
   > > >
   > > >
  > > I'm all for let the rider decide. Just don't raise my medical insurance to
  > > pay for all the veggies that are in the hospital on life support. During my
  > > motorcyle safety course, I have two words that describe those that choose
  > > not to wear helmets - "organ donors". I firmly believe in helmets because
  > > one saved my life when a cage broadsided me. So I would wear one based on
  > > personal beliefs and experience even if it wasn't mandated by law in
  > > Virginia.
  > >
 >
 > What about the drunk drivers in cages and the pain and suffering they cause? They are the greater menace.
 >
 > BTW - do you also wear a full one piece leather riding suit?


outstanding point. I was almost killed in a bike wreck 2 months ago, and
the helmet played no part in the accident. My face may have scraped on
the pavement some, but none of the helmet ever did. Leathers would have
saved me quite a bit of road burn, but in 100+ degree temps, no one
wears leathers. Fortunnately my WW 2 steel frame backpack protected my
back.

And for the record, helmet-wearing should be optional<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders?.. 

If you ever had the misfortune of hitting the pavement you will
realize that not wearing a helmet may be fatal. If you don't wear a
helmet and fall I don't want to pay to have you hooked up to a machine
to keep you alive so I guess if you sign some type of waver that
prevents you from collecting government funds from everyone else I will
agree.
Hey this is just my opinion.
Glen
87 HD FLTC

Cayla wrote:
 > Should wearing a helmet be optional for motorcycle riders? OVER the age of 21
 >
 > Shouldnt WE have the freedom to have the choice!!??
 >
 > Vote Yes!!!
 >
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