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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Hog"
> <hogSPAM RemoveThis @freenetCHIPS.co.uk> saying something like:
>
>>> If the weather is dry or the bike is undercover, try heating the
>>> engine with a fan heater blowing towards it for a half hour or so,
>>> then try again. You may also find it helps if you remove and clean
>>> the plugs then put them under the grill until hot. Then replace them
>>> as quickly as possible without burning your fingers. Then try
>>> again.
>>
>> This might be the most ridiculous thing I ever read on UKRMC
>
> Howso? It has been shown to work. Not very often, or reliably, and
> it's likely the engine would have started anyway, but it seemed to do
> the trick once or twice.
> Not as bizarre as turning an MZ engine over while directing a hair
> dryer into the intake stub, though. That worked for sure.

It must just be me. I can't concieve putting that much effort into getting
anything started. Well not unless it's a Finnish wilderness in the middle
of winter with no shelter at 23:00hrs and I've no mobile phone to hand.

I just walked away from my Duke 250 MKIII on more than one occasion.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:08:18 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Eiron <E1ron.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Yes. You want a Desmo paraffin sump heater like your grandfather
>> put under the engine on frosty nights as he couldn't be bothered
>> with antifreeze.
>
>We had those when we lived in Sweden, when I was a nipper. Mind you, in
>Sweden you needed them.
>
>ISTR that nowadays Scandinavian cars have electrically heated engine
>blocks. You can sort of plug them into standing power points to prevent
>the lumps from freezing solid.
>
>Can anyone confirm?

ISTR that in the colder parts of the USA they do something similar.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:45:02 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm.RemoveThis@tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>The Toyota Prius has a "thermos" bottle that stores the engine
>coolant to avoid having to warm it up again, saving a small
>amount of energy and reducing emissions. It takes about 3 days
>for it to cool down to ambient temperature.

Is it simply in-circuit or does it somehow drain down the coolant to
the bottle?

One wonders how much extra fuel it takes to lug the thing around and
how much energy it took to make the bottle.

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Pip Luscher wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:45:02 -0600, Mark Olson <olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> The Toyota Prius has a "thermos" bottle that stores the engine
>> coolant to avoid having to warm it up again, saving a small
>> amount of energy and reducing emissions. It takes about 3 days
>> for it to cool down to ambient temperature.
>
> Is it simply in-circuit or does it somehow drain down the coolant to
> the bottle?

I imagine for it to be effective, they must drain most of the
coolant into the bottle.

> One wonders how much extra fuel it takes to lug the thing around and
> how much energy it took to make the bottle.

I'm pretty sure it's primarily for minimizing emissions during
warmup. Whatever fuel savings happen as a result are just a
bonus.

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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:00:18 GMT, Pip Luscher
<pips.computer.RemoveThis@spammers.foad.ntlworld.com>
wrote in <i18bm3dpsaqdo8t407u5bfb5n3qrg4phv9.RemoveThis@4ax.com>:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:08:18 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk
> (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>>Eiron <E1ron.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>> Yes. You want a Desmo paraffin sump heater like your grandfather
>>> put under the engine on frosty nights as he couldn't be bothered
>>> with antifreeze.

>>We had those when we lived in Sweden, when I was a nipper. Mind you, in
>>Sweden you needed them.

>>ISTR that nowadays Scandinavian cars have electrically heated engine
>>blocks. You can sort of plug them into standing power points to prevent
>>the lumps from freezing solid.

>>Can anyone confirm?

> ISTR that in the colder parts of the USA they do something similar.

Even in Wancouver most of the cars had little stub cables hanging
out of the engine bay, to plug the block-heater into a mains extension.

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In news:1i903wr.1c391hbeoexcnN%totallydeadmailbox@yahoo.co.uk,
The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wibbled
> Eiron <E1ron.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Yes. You want a Desmo paraffin sump heater like your grandfather
>> put under the engine on frosty nights as he couldn't be bothered
>> with antifreeze.
>
> We had those when we lived in Sweden, when I was a nipper. Mind you,
> in Sweden you needed them.
>
> ISTR that nowadays Scandinavian cars have electrically heated engine
> blocks. You can sort of plug them into standing power points to
> prevent the lumps from freezing solid.
>
> Can anyone confirm?

Yep the hire car I used last Feb when I went to Bispgarden had such a thing
and the hotel car park had rows of the plug sockets, they're in Finland too.

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and a VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
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