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The Older Gentleman <totallydeadmailbox.TakeThisOut@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> ISTR that nowadays Scandinavian cars have electrically heated engine
> blocks. You can sort of plug them into standing power points to prevent
> the lumps from freezing solid.
>
> Can anyone confirm?

They've been around for three decades or more. Often combined with
electrical heaters for the coupé, complete with a timer so you don't
have to get out of bed to turn them on in the morning. Made quite a
difference when the temp. dropped to -35 °C in late February, central
Norway.

You could also get petrol fueled heaters on as well, for those who
regularly parked away from a mains supply.

Some years ago (10+ ?) Saab were experimenting with thermal insulation
of the engine block, to presvent it from cooling overnight. Can't
remember if it never caught on because of technical difficulties, or if
they realised that it would be a too narrow niche product. Although it
would have helped to minimize wear and fuel consumption also in less
chilly climates.

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Higgins <the.best.names.are.gone.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> They do in Canada and very effective they are too.
>
> My dear wife also discovered that they make a very bright flash and loud
> bang when you use the car key to lever out the stuck power plug. Oh, and
> the key melted a bit as well.

Eek =:-0

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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS RemoveThis @ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> when it's really cold I fire up the bus 10 minutes before departure
>> time.
>
> I tried doing that this morning,m and thought I'd be clever and lock
> the doors just in case an enterprising tea-leaf happened by. Inscos
> don't pay out if you leave a car with the keys in and running, do
> they?
>
> That's when I discovered that the remote keyless entry system on the
> Nissan Silver Tuddy doesn't work when the engine's running. Ho hum.

I thought you were going to get rid of that before the warranty ran out or
it failed again?
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ts wrote:

> Some years ago (10+ ?) Saab were experimenting with thermal insulation
> of the engine block, to presvent it from cooling overnight. Can't
> remember if it never caught on because of technical difficulties, or if
> they realised that it would be a too narrow niche product. Although it
> would have helped to minimize wear and fuel consumption also in less
> chilly climates.

<Googles>

The Toyota Prius has a "thermos" bottle that stores the engine
coolant to avoid having to warm it up again, saving a small
amount of energy and reducing emissions. It takes about 3 days
for it to cool down to ambient temperature.

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platypus <monotreme.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> The Older Gentleman wrote:
> > Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESULTS.RemoveThis@ddol-las.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> when it's really cold I fire up the bus 10 minutes before departure
> >> time.
> >
> > I tried doing that this morning,m and thought I'd be clever and lock
> > the doors just in case an enterprising tea-leaf happened by. Inscos
> > don't pay out if you leave a car with the keys in and running, do
> > they?
> >
> > That's when I discovered that the remote keyless entry system on the
> > Nissan Silver Tuddy doesn't work when the engine's running. Ho hum.
>
> I thought you were going to get rid of that before the warranty ran out or
> it failed again?

Changed my mind. It's worth sod all, basically, so I might as well keep
it, run it into the ground, or until the turbo goes bang, whichever
comes sooner.

It's actually a decent motor. When it's going well. Which it is atm.

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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:04:34 -0000, "TMack"
<aonp82REMOVE.DeleteThis@dslDOTpipex.com> wrote:

>"Hog" <hogSPAM.DeleteThis@freenetCHIPS.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:fjn4f0$4u1$1@registered.motzarella.org
>> TMack wrote:
>>> "Lady Nina" <spamtrap2.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pjitl3ppf8f9vjb8rg0ot9c71rm9r7hu9c@4ax.com
>>>> Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>>>> isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>>>> over still no joy.
>>>>
>>>> What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>>>> balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>>>
>>> If the weather is dry or the bike is undercover, try heating the
>>> engine with a fan heater blowing towards it for a half hour or so,
>>> then try again. You may also find it helps if you remove and clean
>>> the plugs then put them under the grill until hot. Then replace them
>>> as quickly as possible without burning your fingers. Then try again.
>>
>> This might be the most ridiculous thing I ever read on UKRMC
>
>Hmm... warmer engine means thinner oil, less resistance for the starter to
>work against, less resistance if it starts firing, better vapourisation of
>fuel, more power from the battery etc. Why would any of that help?
>Obviously a ridiculous approach. Hot plugs means some warming of the
>cylinder head through conduction, which assists fuel vapourisation plus trhe
>ceramic around the central electrode tends to retain heat which aids
>vapourisation near the elctrode and prevents fuel condensing on the
>elctrode. Why would any of that help? Obviously a ridiculous approach.
>The thing is, I have no problem with the ridiculous if it works. I have
>used both techniques successfully on many occasions to get a persistent
>non-starter going again. Just because it looks or sounds silly doesn't mean
>that it won't work.

If it still will not start next time I attempt it then I'll try this.
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Lady Nina <spamtrap2.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> It's a lovely bike but it should have been 12v.

Jamie's 125 Benly is 12v. And electronic ignition, no less.

>Then I could have
> bought a heated suit.

ACtually, I don't think the alternator would be up to that.
^^

(That was a typo above, but it was so good, I left it)


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On 12 Dec, 17:20, totallydeadmail....DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk (The Older Gentleman)
wrote:
> Austin Shackles <austinDITCHTHISFORBETTERRESU....DeleteThis@ddol-las.net> wrote:
>
> > when it's really cold I fire up the bus 10 minutes before departure time.
>
> I tried doing that this morning,m and thought I'd be clever and lock the
> doors just in case an enterprising tea-leaf happened by. Inscos don't
> pay out if you leave a car with the keys in and running, do they?
>
> That's when I discovered that the remote keyless entry system on the
> Nissan Silver Tuddy doesn't work when the engine's running. Ho hum.

doesnt work on the 307 either. however, manually locking the door with
the key does.

done it every morning this week so far.

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adieefc <adieefc.RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> doesnt work on the 307 either. however, manually locking the door with
> the key does.

Nissan is keylless, as I said...


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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:50:53 -0800 (PST), adieefc
<adieefc.TakeThisOut@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>dont worry. there'll be half a dozen manly[1] blokes there

>[1] {thinks} this word should probably be removed.

Indeed. I was going to ask who you were planning to go with.
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adieefc wrote:
> On 14 Dec, 00:50, Lady Nina <spamtr....TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> <thinks about why she's sorting the Benly>
>>
>> <buries head in hands>
>>
>> <oh gods what have I done>
>
> dont worry. there'll be half a dozen manly[1] blokes there to either
> kick it over[2] or kick it into a snowhill and let you snuggle on the
> pillion seat.

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On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 19:19:54 +0000, Adie <spam DeleteThis @bonwick.me.uk> wrote:

>Ace <seesig DeleteThis @virgin.net> :
>
>>On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:50:53 -0800 (PST), adieefc
>><adieefc DeleteThis @hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>dont worry. there'll be half a dozen manly[1] blokes there
>>
>>>[1] {thinks} this word should probably be removed.
>>
>>Indeed. I was going to ask who you were planning to go with.
>
>do I look stupid? no, don't answer that, but I'm not going. I'm sure
>Andy & Kathryn thought they'd persuade me but not a hope.

Yes, now I recall their feeble attempts at persuasion. Not a hope,
indeed.
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