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Lady Nina wibbled
> Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
> isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
> over still no joy.
>
> What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
> balancing the not flattening the battery thing?

Juggling a Benly ... cool

It's probably flooded with petrol now. Take the plugs out and dry them out.

Leave them out for a while to let the combustion chambers dry out too.

Then put the plugs back in and try again.

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In article , Lady Nina
writes
>Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>over still no joy.

Check the spark.

>What next?

Check the spark.


> How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>balancing the not flattening the battery thing?

Put the battery on charge while you have dinner and then check the
spark.

If it won't fire on EZStart then you, for whatever reason, don't have
the right sort of spark.

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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:43:27 +0000, totallydeadmailbox RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Lady Nina wrote:
>
>> Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>> isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>> over still no joy.
>>
>> What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>> balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>
>It's got a kickstarter, hasn't it? Use that. If that fails, try bumping
>it.

Kick start is a possiibility but I want a vaguely reliable electrical
system before the elephant.

>In winter, I wouldn't trust the 6v electric starter on a Benly to turn
>over a pancake, much less an engine.

heh.
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:55:10 +0000, steve auvache
wrote:

>In article , Lady Nina
> writes
>>Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>>isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>>over still no joy.
>
>Check the spark.
>
>>What next?
>
>Check the spark.

That involves taking more bits off and looking at the spark plugs
doesn't it?

>> How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>>balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>
>Put the battery on charge while you have dinner and then check the
>spark.

Battery is fully charged, it was on trickle charge before I attempted
to start it.

>If it won't fire on EZStart then you, for whatever reason, don't have
>the right sort of spark.

New spark plugs then. Bugger. Too busy to fettle.
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In article , Lady Nina
writes
>On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:55:10 +0000, steve auvache
> wrote:
>
>>In article , Lady Nina
>> writes
>>>Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>>>isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>>>over still no joy.
>>
>>Check the spark.
>>
>>>What next?
>>
>>Check the spark.
>
>That involves taking more bits off and looking at the spark plugs
>doesn't it?

Only the plug cap, if you have a spare plug.
>
>>> How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>>>balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>>
>>Put the battery on charge while you have dinner and then check the
>>spark.
>
>Battery is fully charged, it was on trickle charge before I attempted
>to start it.

It may not start first time and you have pounded it already.

>
>>If it won't fire on EZStart then you, for whatever reason, don't have
>>the right sort of spark.
>
>New spark plugs then. Bugger. Too busy to fettle.

Not yet. Flooding has been suggested, perfectly reasonable and
sometimes can be cured by putting the battery on charge while you have
dinner.


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Lady Nina wrote:

> That involves taking more bits off and looking at the spark plugs
> doesn't it?

No. Both plugs are accessible without having to remove anything.


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Lady Nina wrote:

> Kick start is a possiibility but I want a vaguely reliable electrical
> system before the elephant.

You won't get it with a 6v Benly. Even in a British winter, with a new
battery, it struggles. The kickstart always lights the fires, though.

Well, actually, yes,the 6v starter *is* reliable. You can rely on it not
to start the bike in cold weather.


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On or around Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) enlightened us thusly:

>Lady Nina wrote:
>
>> Kick start is a possiibility but I want a vaguely reliable electrical
>> system before the elephant.
>
>You won't get it with a 6v Benly. Even in a British winter, with a new
>battery, it struggles. The kickstart always lights the fires, though.
>
>Well, actually, yes,the 6v starter *is* reliable. You can rely on it not
>to start the bike in cold weather.

convert it to 8V.

wonder if you can do that on a Benly? It workwed on the CB100N, on which
the operating voltage is determined by the battery.

Mind, if you carelessly put a 25W headlamp in it, not a 36W one, it blew it
in about 2 hours of use.

36W ones used to last about a month.
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On or around Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:55:10 +0000, steve auvache
enlightened us thusly:

>In article , Lady Nina
> writes
>>Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>>isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>>over still no joy.
>
>Check the spark.
>
>>What next?
>
>Check the spark.
>
>
>> How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>>balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>
>Put the battery on charge while you have dinner and then check the
>spark.
>
>If it won't fire on EZStart then you, for whatever reason, don't have
>the right sort of spark.

Mind, I've never found easy-start to be any use on petrol engines. diesels,
yes. Although it's bad for them.
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"Lady Nina" wrote in message

> Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
> isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
> over still no joy.
>
> What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
> balancing the not flattening the battery thing?

If the weather is dry or the bike is undercover, try heating the engine with
a fan heater blowing towards it for a half hour or so, then try again. You
may also find it helps if you remove and clean the plugs then put them under
the grill until hot. Then replace them as quickly as possible without
burning your fingers. Then try again.

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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:34:00 +0000, totallydeadmailbox RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk
(The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Lady Nina wrote:
>
>> That involves taking more bits off and looking at the spark plugs
>> doesn't it?
>
>No. Both plugs are accessible without having to remove anything.

<gets out handbook>

Oh right. It's too cold to go back outside now and I've still work to
do, this is my ukrm tea break.
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TMack wrote:

> "Lady Nina" wrote in message
>
> > Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
> > isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
> > over still no joy.
> >
> > What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
> > balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>
> If the weather is dry or the bike is undercover, try heating the engine with
> a fan heater blowing towards it for a half hour or so, then try again. You
> may also find it helps if you remove and clean the plugs then put them under
> the grill until hot. Then replace them as quickly as possible without
> burning your fingers. Then try again.

FFS. It's a Benly. The original indestructible bike. It takes a nuclear
detonation to stop one running. Just use the effing kickstarter.



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"The Older Gentleman" wrote in message

> TMack wrote:
>
>> "Lady Nina" wrote in message
>>
>>> Benly will not start. It sounds as though it wants to start it just
>>> isn't catching. I've given it a squirt of easy start and turned it
>>> over still no joy.
>>>
>>> What next? How long shall I keep truning it over while for whilst
>>> balancing the not flattening the battery thing?
>>
>> If the weather is dry or the bike is undercover, try heating the
>> engine with a fan heater blowing towards it for a half hour or so,
>> then try again. You may also find it helps if you remove and clean
>> the plugs then put them under the grill until hot. Then replace them
>> as quickly as possible without burning your fingers. Then try again.
>
> FFS. It's a Benly. The original indestructible bike. It takes a
> nuclear detonation to stop one running. Just use the effing
> kickstarter.

Its a SOB. "Indestructable" doesn't mean that it won't occasionally be
recalcitrant.
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