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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:57 pm
Post subject: 2-stroke question
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My Toro CCR-2000 (~10 yrs old) did something quite uncharacteristic today
when we laid into The Snow. Got it out of the barn Friday night... It had
been put away fully drained with WD-40 sprayed inside the cylinder. Added
fresh premix at the recommended 50:1 Sat am. It started nicely first pull
and I ran it for a couple of minutes and then stored it to start working
on the tractor-mounted snow blower. Today, I started it and pushed it into
the snow.. after maybe 1 minute, it backfired with noticeable flame and
quit. Feels like normal compression when I pull it thru the cycle but not
a hint of starting. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Mike
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Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:57 pm
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Mike W. <outofthe.RemoveThis@emailbiz.com> wrote in message news:<f9t7tvs4qtd6635i88p90kukr1fplf98ke.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
> My Toro CCR-2000 (~10 yrs old) did something quite uncharacteristic today
> when we laid into The Snow. Got it out of the barn Friday night... It had
> been put away fully drained with WD-40 sprayed inside the cylinder. Added
> fresh premix at the recommended 50:1 Sat am. It started nicely first pull
> and I ran it for a couple of minutes and then stored it to start working
> on the tractor-mounted snow blower. Today, I started it and pushed it into
> the snow.. after maybe 1 minute, it backfired with noticeable flame and
> quit. Feels like normal compression when I pull it thru the cycle but not
> a hint of starting. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
> Mike
>
Sounds like maybe it sheared the woodruff key holding the flywheel in
place on the crank. Makes for a very radical change in timing. Happens
when the motor tries to slow down when the flywheel doesn't want to
yet. Were you pushing it into a pretty good snowbank?
Or maybe it's something else.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 4:24 am
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On 7 Dec 2003 22:43:00 -0800, tntharrell RemoveThis @msn.com (Tim Harrell) wrote:
>Sounds like maybe it sheared the woodruff key holding the flywheel in
>place on the crank. Makes for a very radical change in timing. Happens
>when the motor tries to slow down when the flywheel doesn't want to
>yet. Were you pushing it into a pretty good snowbank?
>Or maybe it's something else.
>
>Tim H.
The load on the blower was minimal at the time... 2" of fluffy stuff. It's
a starting point though... I'll see if I can check it out. Thanks Tim.
Mike
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Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:25 am
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 2:31 pm
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"Mike W." <outofthe.TakeThisOut@emailbiz.com> wrote in message
> My Toro CCR-2000 (~10 yrs old) did something quite uncharacteristic today
> when we laid into The Snow. Got it out of the barn Friday night... It had
> been put away fully drained with WD-40 sprayed inside the cylinder. Added
> fresh premix at the recommended 50:1 Sat am. It started nicely first pull
> and I ran it for a couple of minutes and then stored it to start working
> on the tractor-mounted snow blower. Today, I started it and pushed it into
> the snow.. after maybe 1 minute, it backfired with noticeable flame and
> quit. Feels like normal compression when I pull it thru the cycle but not
> a hint of starting. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>
> Mike
>
did ya check for spark?? it doesn't take much to make
2 stroke run (gas, air & spark). a couple of weeks ago
I did my last cut of the year with the 50's lawn boy...
it didn't want to run with out the choke on ??
So I looked at the carb and noticed the air filter was
missing as in a mouse or something made off with it?
So I ripped a hunk off of a foam paint brush & stuffed
it in the carb and cut the grass.
john
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:36 pm
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"dirtfirst" <.com> wrote in message
> You have machines to remove snow? wow.
> DF
> California
adapt or die...
john
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:45 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:59 pm
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"Chris Buckley" <cnbuckley DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> What's snow????
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No, no, no...its SNEW, What's snew??? ...Not much, what's snew with you.
My 8 y.o. used to fall for it every time.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:24 pm
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:31:57 GMT, "john" <nomessage RemoveThis @the-b.eep> wrote:
>did ya check for spark??
Not in the midst of combat. I mobilized my tank division as soon as the
flame throwers came out. It'll get checked along with other basics before
I decide to send it off to service.
Mike
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Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:25 pm
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"Mike W." <outofthe.DeleteThis@emailbiz.com> schreef in bericht
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> My Toro CCR-2000 (~10 yrs old) did something quite uncharacteristic today
> when we laid into The Snow. Got it out of the barn Friday night... It had
> been put away fully drained with WD-40 sprayed inside the cylinder. Added
> fresh premix at the recommended 50:1 Sat am. It started nicely first pull
> and I ran it for a couple of minutes and then stored it to start working
> on the tractor-mounted snow blower. Today, I started it and pushed it into
> the snow.. after maybe 1 minute, it backfired with noticeable flame and
> quit. Feels like normal compression when I pull it thru the cycle but not
> a hint of starting. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Hope itīs just ignition, not a broken ring.
Backfiring...thatīs black goei in the carb and gassmel comming out of the
exhaust?
Goodluck with repairing the blown snowblower.
Grtz, P1
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> Mike
>
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> --
> Yours respectfully,
> Robert Falcon Scott
> N42d 07.084'
> W72d 22.344'
>
> "Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
> endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
> of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
> tale."
>
> 00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
> 96 XR400
> 74 CZ250 Enduro
> 99 KZ1000P
> BRC, AMA, NETRA, NOHVCC, NRA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2-stroke question |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:25 pm
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:33 +0100, "PymerOne" <pymerone.TakeThisOut@ppllaanneett.nl>
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>Hope itīs just ignition, not a broken ring.
Stop talking scary! You and Tami (and janet just for good measure... wbg,
wbg, wbg...) can all kiss my ass now...
>Backfiring...thatīs black goei in the carb and gassmel comming out of the
>exhaust?
It was a decent size large flame out the exhaust... the sound of a .45
going off near my knees... and my underwear getting all the black goei...
>Goodluck with repairing the blown snowblower.
Ok... thank you. You're off the KMA list.
Mike
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>Grtz, P1
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Yours respectfully,
Robert Falcon Scott
N42d 07.084'
W72d 22.344'
"Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
tale."
00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
99 KZ1000P
BRC, AMA, NETRA, NOHVCC, NRA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2-stroke question |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 12:17 am
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"Mike W." <outofthe DeleteThis @emailbiz.com> schreef in bericht
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> On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 21:25:33 +0100, "PymerOne" <pymerone DeleteThis @ppllaanneett.nl>
> wrote:
>
> >Hope itīs just ignition, not a broken ring.
>
> Stop talking scary! You and Tami (and janet just for good measure... wbg,
> wbg, wbg...) can all kiss my ass now...
>
> >Backfiring...thatīs black goei in the carb and gassmel comming out of the
> >exhaust?
>
> It was a decent size large flame out the exhaust... the sound of a .45
> going off near my knees... and my underwear getting all the black goei...
>
> >Goodluck with repairing the blown snowblower.
>
> Ok... thank you. You're off the KMA list.
Phew...
Grtz, P1
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> Mike
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> >
> >Grtz, P1
>
>
> --
> Yours respectfully,
> Robert Falcon Scott
> N42d 07.084'
> W72d 22.344'
>
> "Had we lived, I should have had a tale to tell of the hardihood,
> endurance, and courage of my companions which would have stirred the heart
> of every Englishman. These rough notes and our dead bodies must tell the
> tale."
>
> 00 Kohler-driven Snow-Fighter
> 96 XR400
> 74 CZ250 Enduro
> 99 KZ1000P
> BRC, AMA, NETRA, NOHVCC, NRA<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: 2-stroke question |
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