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"Linger" <Badsmell DeleteThis @NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote in message
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 > A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
 > I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine
really
 > simple.
 > So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
 > to run, buy and maintain.
 > And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And it's
 > also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
 >
Check your sig.... CR250 with daytime MoT and supermoto wheels/tyres....

My CRM, whilst a bit shit on the motorway (90-odd taking up a whole lane,
weaving like a bastard) could easily piss on over half the
sportsbikes/riders at Donington last Day of Champions. And that was on
knobblies. Any advatage they made on the straights they soon lost on the
corners as i could take any line I wanted and still stuff 'em.... So
actually why not a CRM? About 2/3 the power of the CR (max) but at least
it'll be less fragile. Ish.

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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:10:26 +0100, "Linger"
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 >A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
 >I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine really
 >simple.
 >So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
 >to run, buy and maintain.
 >And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And it's
 >also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
 >
 >RGV??

TS250C. YKIMS.

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Linger <Badsmell RemoveThis @NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:

 > A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
 > I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine really
 > simple.
 > So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
 > to run, buy and maintain.
 > And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And it's
 > also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
 >
 > RGV??

They blow up. Yamaha TZR250 is a safer bet.

Mind you, 17 stone.... sheeee-yit. MZ with uprated suspension?


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The Older Gentleman wrote:
 > Linger <Badsmell.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:
 >
  >> A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
  >> I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine
  >> really simple.
  >> So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be
  >> cheap to run, buy and maintain.
  >> And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And
  >> it's also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
  >>
  >> RGV??
 >
 > They blow up. Yamaha TZR250 is a safer bet.
 >
 > Mind you, 17 stone.... sheeee-yit. MZ with uprated suspension?

What is it with road bikes? My crosser's suspension can easily cope with 17
stone.
I can set it to a perfect 90mm of sag.

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SteveH wrote:
 > Linger <Badsmell.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:
 >
  >> A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
  >> I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine
  >> really simple.
  >> So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be
  >> cheap to run, buy and maintain.
  >> And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And
  >> it's also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
  >>
  >> RGV??
 >
 > I reckon I'd have a TDR on sticky rubber.

No, I'd like one in the sports genre.

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"Linger" <Badsmell RemoveThis @NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote in message
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 > SteveH wrote:
  > > Linger <Badsmell RemoveThis @NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:
  > >
   > >> A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
   > >> I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine
   > >> really simple.
   > >> So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be
   > >> cheap to run, buy and maintain.
   > >> And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And
   > >> it's also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
   > >>
   > >> RGV??
  > >
  > > I reckon I'd have a TDR on sticky rubber.
 >
 > No, I'd like one in the sports genre.

Well in that case, ignore my previous post... Hows about a Yamaha R1-Z?
Tried and tested Yamaha parallel 250 twin, bur more stylish than an RD and
at least it wouldn't be common (obv neither would parts, but the engine must
share quite a few bits with either the TZR or LC 250).

To be honest, if you're over 5' 7" and/or 10 stone then a full-on 250 sports
bike'll just look like it's wedged up your arse crack.......... No offence
like, but I followed Monz when he rode my 955i (*not* a small bike) and
that's how it appeared to me, so the mental image of 17 stone on a
TZR/RGV/NSR(my choice of 250 v-twin sports, btw, in MC21 guise) is just not
one I'd care to have as I reckon it'd be about the same, relatively speaking
sizewise....

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The Older Gentleman wrote:

 > Mind you, 17 stone.... sheeee-yit. MZ with uprated suspension?

Shouldn't be a problem - if I've done my sums correctly

MZ ETZ
Unladen weight Permissible Total Max rider weight
153Kg 330Kg 177Kg (27.8 stone)

MZ TS 250/1 (Supa 5)
151Kg 320Kg 169Kg (26.6 stone)

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sweller wrote:

 > The Older Gentleman wrote:
 >
  > > Mind you, 17 stone.... sheeee-yit. MZ with uprated suspension?
 >
 > Shouldn't be a problem - if I've done my sums correctly
 >
 > MZ ETZ
 > Unladen weight Permissible Total Max rider weight
 > 153Kg 330Kg 177Kg (27.8 stone)
 >
 > MZ TS 250/1 (Supa 5)
 > 151Kg 320Kg 169Kg (26.6 stone)

At a rate of 1 clutch per week?

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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:10:26 +0100, "Linger"
<Badsmell.RemoveThis@NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:

 >A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
 >I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine really
 >simple.
 >So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
 >to run, buy and maintain.

Doesn't 'cheap to buy' usually equate to 'bag of shite thats thrashed
and bodged to fuck' ?

As for TZR's, maintenance is cheap enough [1] but use genuine Yamaha
parts rather than pattern stuff because there seems to be a huge
difference in quality.

Non routine maintenence bits are easy enough to find, but there is a
'reverse cylinder' model (may be an import?) which seems to have
poorer parts availability.


 >And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock.

Dunno about that, you'd need to speak to a Resident Riding God (TM).
If however you are a crap rider, a TZR is capable of making your crap
riding mates on GPZ500s and GSX600s look very crap on the twisty bits.


 > And it's
 >also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.

Ah. Hmmm. Errrrr. Well I'm just under 6' and 14 stone, and its not
too bad [2] but it is much less fun when 7 stone daughter is on the
back. All the 250 sports strokers are light little bikes so someone
built like Lozzo will fit them better.

They make you grin. Lots.
They make you laugh out loud.
They make you avoid motorways.



[1] Orders of magnitude less than the ZZR600 anyway.
[2] Although suddenly uncrouching from behind the screen at 90 has a
parachute-from-back-of-drag-car type effect.


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On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:10:26 +0100, "Linger"
<Badsmell.RemoveThis@NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:

 >A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
 >I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine really
 >simple.
 >So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
 >to run, buy and maintain.
 >And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And it's
 >also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.

Yerrsss, I've had this thought.

Completely irrelevant to your needs, but the thought reminded me of a
site I once found about a bloke in the States who'd made a sports 500
V-twin out of two 250 motocross motors. I think it used one gearbox by
driving the clutch from two different points. *Want*!

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Macie says...

 > Ah. Hmmm. Errrrr. Well I'm just under 6' and 14 stone, and its not
 > too bad [2] but it is much less fun when 7 stone daughter is on the
 > back. All the 250 sports strokers are light little bikes so someone
 > built like Lozzo will fit them better.

I did the Botafot with Champ and a few others about 3 years ago. Champ
was on his ZX9-R and I was on a 1987 RD350LC F2 Powervalve. The agility
of the LC down the lanes shocked a few people that day, but I only
weighed about 9 stone back then. I'm a lardy 11 stone bloater now.

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Lozzo wrote:

 > I did the Botafot with Champ and a few others about 3 years ago. Champ
 > was on his ZX9-R and I was on a 1987 RD350LC F2 Powervalve. The agility
 > of the LC down the lanes shocked a few people that day, but I only
 > weighed about 9 stone back then. I'm a lardy 11 stone bloater now.

I think this is probably the first time you've ever been fatter than me.

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Pip Luscher <pip DeleteThis @spammers.foad.luscher.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

 > On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 19:10:26 +0100, "Linger"
 > <Badsmell DeleteThis @NOSPAMenglishgolfer.com> wrote:
 >
  > >A recent post about 125's got me thinking.
  > >I really love the power of my crosser and find working on the engine really
  > >simple.
  > >So it got me thinking about a 250 2 stroke road bike. It's got to be cheap
  > >to run, buy and maintain.
  > >And it's got to be able to give the local power rangers a shock. And it's
  > >also got to carry a 17 stone born again slimmer.
 >
 > Yerrsss, I've had this thought.
 >
 > Completely irrelevant to your needs, but the thought reminded me of a
 > site I once found about a bloke in the States who'd made a sports 500
 > V-twin out of two 250 motocross motors. I think it used one gearbox by
 > driving the clutch from two different points. *Want*!

There's a serviceable-looking PE175 on Ebay right now. Been used for
off-roading, but looks like it could be made road-legal again for not
much dosh.


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