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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:07 pm
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I figured it was time I put a rear tire on with some tread, being winter and
all. I decided to use the spare wheel, swap out the rubber and then mount
it in place of the current rear wheel. Here's a shot of the spare, still
plenty of life left in it if it were summer.

http://tinyurl.com/2ke8he

Here's the current pusher, the winter roads have deposited lot's of salt and
crud on everything, as you can see.

http://tinyurl.com/33mdek
http://tinyurl.com/2jck3j

Here's the new tire.

http://tinyurl.com/2usuhw

With a packed garage I have no room to work, so the Harbor Freight tire
changer was pulled out into the driveway. No having it bolted down doesn't
make things any easier, but it's manageable.

http://tinyurl.com/2tasgm

A lovely day out for changing a tire.

http://tinyurl.com/2szawh

I used the tire iron supplied with the Ural toolkit to get things started,
then I used the bar that came with the tire changer, with a rag wrapped
around the end. The tool makes short work of getting that top part off the
rim. The beed on these tires it extremely easy to break, no need to use the
built in beed breaker at the base of the changer.

http://tinyurl.com/2q8lhy
http://tinyurl.com/2pcflx

With the top part off (oh, I forgot to mention that I let the air out of the
tire first) I reached in and began to extract the tube.

http://tinyurl.com/37oem5

Next I put some air back in the tube and ran it through s bucket of water
with soap in it to see if there are any holes.

http://tinyurl.com/3yqsc5

Nope, no holes. Next I cleaned up the rim a bit and positioned the new
tire, then got out the dish soap and lubed up the edge of the tire and the
rim.

http://tinyurl.com/2mllpg
http://tinyurl.com/36pwzn

With the new tire haflway on.

http://tinyurl.com/35dd27

Next I put the tube back in started in on the top half of the tire. For
some reason this part gave me a lot of grief. I'm sure there was a trick to
getting it on easier but I'll be damned if I could figure it out. Seemed to
take me forever before I finally figured it out and popped on. The bar that
came with the changer didn't help any, I was able to do it with just the two
tire irons in the end.

My next step was to fill the tube with air and then mount it back where the
spare goes so I could take it to get it balanced (I don't have anything to
balance tires yet). BTW, there was no mark that I could find that indicated
where the lightest (or heaviest) part of the tire was, so I just but it on
without much thought. The tire seemed to take a long time to fill, and with
the compressor going while I was filling it I couldn't hear any leaks. I
turned the compressor off and tried again, as soon as I did I could hear air
leaking out on the opposite side of the tire that the stem was on. Damn, I
must have pinched the tube during all that frigging around while trying to
get the last half of the tire on. I didn't enjoy the prospect of pulling
the tire halfway off and then trying to get it back on again, but at least I
figured out how to do it easily, and I happened to have a spare tube.

I checked the spare tube by putting some air in it and listening but I
didn't hear any leaks. The top part of the tire came off pretty easily, the
tube went in and I got it back on withut much trouble, it was a lot quicker
the second time. I know I didn't pinch the tube this time, but when I went
to fill it I could hear a really slow leak in it. Not nearly as bad as the
other tube, but still a very slight his. Well, time to call it a day. I
could have pulled the tube out, pathced it and put it back in, but I was
tired of messing with this. So I put the tire back on the trunk of the hack
and put everything away. I'll check around next week for a replacement tube
and tackle this again later. Still plenty of rubber on the pusher, even if
the groves are almost gone, so as long as it doesn't snow too much...<g>

After all of that I needed a drink, Shirley a round for anyone that made it
through that.

BTW, I don't care for painted rims. <g>

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:02 pm
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On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:58:09 GMT, "Tud" <tud333.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

Always use a new tube! & next time put the new tire on with a big
rubber mallet. Tire irons are almost guarnateed to pinch a tube, but the mallet
won't hurt a thing as long as you keep the tube inside the tire.
-

Jinks ('86FXRS, '07 FLTR)
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Remember, "No good deed goes unpunished"

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:29 pm
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Tud [mailto:tud333@hotmail.com] writes:

> Nope, no holes. Next I cleaned up the rim a bit and positioned the
new
> tire, then got out the dish soap and lubed up the edge of the tire and
the
> rim.

I've found that K-Y (or any generic) works *way* better than detergent.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:16 pm
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Jinks wrote...
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:58:09 GMT, "Tud" <tud333 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Always use a new tube! & next time put the new tire on with a big
> rubber mallet. Tire irons are almost guarnateed to pinch a tube, but the
> mallet
> won't hurt a thing as long as you keep the tube inside the tire.

After today I'm thinking I need to treat tubes like spark plugs and oil
filters, always keep a bunch on hand, and an extra in the trunk.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:21 pm
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Jinks wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:58:09 GMT, "Tud" <tud333.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Always use a new tube! & next time put the new tire on with a big
> rubber mallet. Tire irons are almost guarnateed to pinch a tube, but the mallet
> won't hurt a thing as long as you keep the tube inside the tire.

And when you're putting the tube in, inflate it a bit. A bit of air in
it will allow it to kind of roll out of the way while you seat the
remaining bead of the tire. In addition, if your rim has a dropped
center, make sure the part of the bead that's already in the rim is
sitting in the well in the center of the rim. That helps create the
slack that allows the rest of the bead to slide over the rim.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:34 pm
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Tud wrote:
> I figured it was time I put a rear tire on with some tread, being winter and
> all. I decided to use the spare wheel, swap out the rubber and then mount
> it in place of the current rear wheel. Here's a shot of the spare, still
> plenty of life left in it if it were summer.

<snip>

> After all of that I needed a drink, Shirley a round for anyone that made it
> through that.
>
> BTW, I don't care for painted rims. <g>

I've been pretty lucky with tire changes, only pinched a tube once.
FWIW, I'd replace the tube and rim strip with each tire change, doesn't
add much to the cost.

I managed to get my bike out a little today. I rode it 4 blocks loaded
with my generator and some power tools. I'm gettin' too damn old for
manual labor...

Les
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:09 pm
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StT wrote...
> Jinks wrote:
>> On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:58:09 GMT, "Tud" <tud333.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Always use a new tube! & next time put the new tire on with a big
>> rubber mallet. Tire irons are almost guarnateed to pinch a tube, but the
>> mallet
>> won't hurt a thing as long as you keep the tube inside the tire.
>
> And when you're putting the tube in, inflate it a bit. A bit of air in it
> will allow it to kind of roll out of the way while you seat the remaining
> bead of the tire. In addition, if your rim has a dropped center, make
> sure the part of the bead that's already in the rim is sitting in the well
> in the center of the rim. That helps create the slack that allows the
> rest of the bead to slide over the rim.

Thanks for the tips. I think the tubes are about $16 at the Ural dealer,
not too bad. I'll have to pick a couple up this week.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:41 am
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Les wrote...
> Tud wrote:
>> I figured it was time I put a rear tire on with some tread, being winter
>> and all. I decided to use the spare wheel, swap out the rubber and then
>> mount it in place of the current rear wheel. Here's a shot of the spare,
>> still plenty of life left in it if it were summer.
>
> <snip>
>
>> After all of that I needed a drink, Shirley a round for anyone that made
>> it through that.
>>
>> BTW, I don't care for painted rims. <g>
>
> I've been pretty lucky with tire changes, only pinched a tube once. FWIW,
> I'd replace the tube and rim strip with each tire change, doesn't add much
> to the cost.
>
> I managed to get my bike out a little today. I rode it 4 blocks loaded
> with my generator and some power tools. I'm gettin' too damn old for
> manual labor...

I'm with you. Too much shoveling yesterday and this morning. Getting the
bike down the driveway was a little dicey this morning. The driveway was
fairly clear from shoveling the night before, but the snow plow made sure I
still had some work to do. The problem was that the driveway was slick with
ice (and on a downhill slope), so if I was to just back out like I normally
do I'd have no control over it, and would likely tip it or hit the minivan.
I backed it out and turned right away so that the back was against a snow
bank and the front was pointing at the minivan. Then I had to pull the
front end down the driveway, pivoting it on the back tire since there wasn't
enough room to just turn left and still get by the minivan. With much
effort I finally got it pointing in the right direction and all I could do
at that point was hold on until I reached the road. Then I got stuck
pulling out of the gas station, again, thanks to the snow piled up by the
snow plows. I actually had to get off and muscle it through (didn't bother
with 2WD since the hack is just as bald as the pusher). I really need to
pick up a new tube today.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:14 pm
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Uncle Meat wrote...
> Tud [mailto:tud333@hotmail.com] writes:
>
>> Nope, no holes. Next I cleaned up the rim a bit and positioned the
> new
>> tire, then got out the dish soap and lubed up the edge of the tire and
> the
>> rim.
>
> I've found that K-Y (or any generic) works *way* better than detergent.

Interesting. I'll have to ask the missus to pick some up the next time
she's shopping. <sfsf>

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:39 pm
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Tom wrote...
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:14:39 -0400, "Tud" <tud333.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Uncle Meat wrote...
>>> Tud [mailto:tud333@hotmail.com] writes:
>>>
>>>> Nope, no holes. Next I cleaned up the rim a bit and positioned the
>>> new
>>>> tire, then got out the dish soap and lubed up the edge of the tire and
>>> the
>>>> rim.
>>>
>>> I've found that K-Y (or any generic) works *way* better than detergent.
>>
>>Interesting. I'll have to ask the missus to pick some up the next time
>>she's shopping. <sfsf>
>
> can you record her answer?
>
> <g>

Yes, but I may not be around to send you the response after she asks why and
I say something stupid.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:45 pm
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"Uncle Meat" <unclemeat RemoveThis @voiceofcheese.info> wrote in message
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> Tud [mailto:tud333@hotmail.com] writes:
>
> I've found that K-Y (or any generic) works *way* better than detergent.
>
> Uncle Meat
>

I've always found KY to work well for tire mounting too. However the first
time Wanda
saw me carrying her tube of KY out into the garage she looked at me like I
was
some kind of pervert.

t
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tater wrote:
> "Uncle Meat" <unclemeat.DeleteThis@voiceofcheese.info> wrote in message
> news:001501c86b6b$4ba052d0$a20110ac@change...
>> Tud [mailto:tud333@hotmail.com] writes:
>>
>> I've found that K-Y (or any generic) works *way* better than detergent.
>>
>> Uncle Meat
>>
>
> I've always found KY to work well for tire mounting too. However the first
> time Wanda
> saw me carrying her tube of KY out into the garage she looked at me like I
> was
> some kind of pervert.
>
> t
>
>

Wonder what Wanda would think about you sharing that little tid-bit of
info w/ some guy named Uncle Meat on the internet. Wink

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