Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph???

On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bilbo.DeleteThis@nospam.com> said:

> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.

They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment. Just
today, they released another model based on the Uly. The XB12XT. A more
sport touring oriented model. It's basically the bike I built last
year, sans the firebolt fairing. XB12STT with a Uly tail section.

And speaking of the 1125R and Triumphs, I can post these pics now that
the bike is released. As most people know, I ride with a few Buell
engineers. When the 1125R was announced, they needed to put a bunch of
miles on 100+ bikes to break them in for the inside pass track days. So
one early morning, one of those Engineers called me up and asked if I
wanted to put on 500 miles with him. So the wife and I, and a friend
met up with some Triumph club that she was going ot go on a ride up to
New Glarus, WI(BEAUTIFUL countryside, and some 1/2 way decent roads).
So here we are, 3 Buells, and a un-released 1125R riding with 3 Triumph
Rocket III. A strange bunch...

http://preview.tinyurl.com/38cwws

We pulled in to a gas station right outside of New Glarus. Well a
Ducati group was out for a ride that day, and we "ALMOST" made it out
of there without them noticing the 1125R. Well, it was almost. Then the
guy filling up next to us noticed the 1125R, looked sideways, and then
went to the back and saw the MFG plate on the back and called to all
his buddies to come take a look....

To say the least, we didn't get out of there for over 1/2 an hour,
because when the Ducati group was done drooling over the bike, another
group of mixed sport bikes pulls in and noticed the 1125R. This was
making my Buell engineer buddy a bit uncomfortable. They aren't
supposed to attract attention to un-released models.

All and all, it was a good day, and I'll appologize for hijacking your
thread a tad.. But at least the picture has some Triumphs in it
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 22, 12:38 am, Tim Morrow <ct.mor... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 9:32 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>
> > Turnover was up 10 per cent from £200 million to £220 million. The sales of
> > Triumph motorcycles also rose by 10 per cent to 41,125 units.
>
> > Below is from Saddle's post a couple of weeks ago. I guess a winning season
> > in MGP is not everything. We're in a depression now & people want low
> > maintenance street bikes not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes and
> > their ancient non-rebuilt from the ground up, like Triumph Bonneville and
> > Truxtons Also a brand new idea in cruisers, not just a me too Harley. I of
> > course am talking  about the Rocket III. And Triumph in the past two years
> > has come out with revolutionary bikes (675 & street triple) and improved
> > versions of the Speed Triple and Tiger. The only so-so bike in their line
> > up is the Gen III Sprint but it's still a better performer than large
> > beasts like the Yamaha FJR & Honda 1300.
>
> > Here's Saddle's excerpt from a couple of weeks ago on Ducati sales:
>
> > Ducati North America is proud to announce that 2007 ended as the
> > company's best ever year, with retail sales passing the 10,000 mark
> > for the first time. The arrival of ground breaking new models and a
> > decisive victory in the 2007 Moto GP World Championship have brought
> > an unprecedented amount of success to the Italian brand.
>
> > --
> > Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
>
> NEWNAN, Georgia - January, 2, 2007 - Triumph Motorcycles (America)
> Ltd., announced today that its dealers retailed 10,726 units in the US
> during 2006.
>
> 2006 was another record setting year for sales of Ducati Motorcycles
> in North America. At year end, over 8100 motorcycles had been retail
> registered, which translated to a 16% increase in sales over 2005.
>
> Total North American sales grew by 22% in 2007; up from the previous
> record of 8,200 bikes in 2006. This impressive growth occurred while
> the overall North American motorcycle market declined in 2007. In
> addition, Ducati North America's unit sales have experienced
> significant growth over the last four years, more than doubling since
> 2003.
>
> It appears Triumph sells more motorcycles in the U.S. than Ducati
> does.  It appears that Ducati sells more motorcycles worldwide than
> Triumph does.
>
> "We're in a depression now & people want low maintenance street bikes
> not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes"
>
> I would say that's not indicated by the market.

Actually, I think he's rather on target. In bannana republics there
are a few rich and a lot of poor. The fact that the "luxury" brand
does well is hardly indicative of the market. Besides, the rash of
foreclosures has only just begun. Get back to us with this years
numbers. (In full disclosure, I predict a rise in scooter sales).

BTW, gather your gubament buddies around CNBC and enjoy watching your
retirement money disapear into the ether today.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... DeleteThis @nospam.com> said:
>
> > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>
> They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.

There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month. His ad
states to get it fast because that one's it.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 22, 6:39 am, saddlebag <saddle....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 12:38 am, Tim Morrow <ct.mor....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 21, 9:32 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> > > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> > > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> > > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> > > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> > > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>
> > > Turnover was up 10 per cent from £200 million to £220 million. The sales of
> > > Triumph motorcycles also rose by 10 per cent to 41,125 units.
>
> > > Below is from Saddle's post a couple of weeks ago. I guess a winning season
> > > in MGP is not everything. We're in a depression now & people want low
> > > maintenance street bikes not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes and
> > > their ancient non-rebuilt from the ground up, like Triumph Bonneville and
> > > Truxtons Also a brand new idea in cruisers, not just a me too Harley. I of
> > > course am talking  about the Rocket III. And Triumph in the past two years
> > > has come out with revolutionary bikes (675 & street triple) and improved
> > > versions of the Speed Triple and Tiger. The only so-so bike in their line
> > > up is the Gen III Sprint but it's still a better performer than large
> > > beasts like the Yamaha FJR & Honda 1300.
>
> > > Here's Saddle's excerpt from a couple of weeks ago on Ducati sales:
>
> > > Ducati North America is proud to announce that 2007 ended as the
> > > company's best ever year, with retail sales passing the 10,000 mark
> > > for the first time. The arrival of ground breaking new models and a
> > > decisive victory in the 2007 Moto GP World Championship have brought
> > > an unprecedented amount of success to the Italian brand.
>
> > > --
> > > Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
>
> > NEWNAN, Georgia - January, 2, 2007 - Triumph Motorcycles (America)
> > Ltd., announced today that its dealers retailed 10,726 units in the US
> > during 2006.
>
> > 2006 was another record setting year for sales of Ducati Motorcycles
> > in North America. At year end, over 8100 motorcycles had been retail
> > registered, which translated to a 16% increase in sales over 2005.
>
> > Total North American sales grew by 22% in 2007; up from the previous
> > record of 8,200 bikes in 2006. This impressive growth occurred while
> > the overall North American motorcycle market declined in 2007. In
> > addition, Ducati North America's unit sales have experienced
> > significant growth over the last four years, more than doubling since
> > 2003.
>
> > It appears Triumph sells more motorcycles in the U.S. than Ducati
> > does.  It appears that Ducati sells more motorcycles worldwide than
> > Triumph does.
>
> > "We're in a depression now & people want low maintenance street bikes
> > not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes"
>
> > I would say that's not indicated by the market.
>
> Actually, I think he's rather on target.  In bannana republics there
> are a few rich and a lot of poor.  The fact that the "luxury" brand
> does well is hardly indicative of the market.   Besides, the rash of
> foreclosures has only just begun.  Get back to us with this years
> numbers.  (In full disclosure, I predict a rise in scooter sales).

I wouldn't be surprised to see motorcycle sales in the U.S. fall. In
the U.S., motorcycles are toys. The first things people give up
after a long economic boom are new toys. As, of course, they should.

> BTW, gather your gubament buddies around CNBC and enjoy watching your
> retirement money disapear into the ether today.

Silly Saddle. The stock market goes up, the stock market does down.
It's gone down before, it will come up again. Study a little history.

I'll be too busy interviewing a potential new hire today to watch TV
with you, though.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 22, 6:40 am, saddlebag <saddle....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> said:
>
> > > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> > > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> > > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> > > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> > > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> > > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>
> > They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>
> There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
> has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month.  His ad
> states to get it fast because that one's it.

Well, there you go. Proof that Steve is lying out his ass. Thanks,
Saddle!
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

saddlebag wrote:
> On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....DeleteThis@nospam.com> said:
>>
>>> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
>>> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
>>> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
>>> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
>>> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
>>> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>> They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>
> There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
> has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month. His ad
> states to get it fast because that one's it.

Then they are incompetent at selling 'em. My local dealer (Hals
HD/Buell) sold 3 before one hit the floor.

The one hurdle they need to cross is getting people in to the doors to
buy the bike. Many that would be in the market for this bike have never
stepped foot in an HD dealership.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

"Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> saddlebag wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....DeleteThis@nospam.com> said:
>>>
>>>> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the
>>>> most
>>>> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
>>>> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in
>>>> the MC
>>>> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of
>>>> the
>>>> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute
>>>> the
>>>> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales
>>>> skyrocket.
>>> They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>>
>> There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
>> has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month. His ad
>> states to get it fast because that one's it.
>
> Then they are incompetent at selling 'em. My local dealer (Hals HD/Buell)
> sold 3 before one hit the floor.
>
> The one hurdle they need to cross is getting people in to the doors to buy
> the bike. Many that would be in the market for this bike have never
> stepped foot in an HD dealership.



That would be me.
I need to ride one; but we are deep in the winter here.
The past 2 days have been nice, but I haven't gotten over there.


--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

Tim Morrow wrote:

> On Jan 21, 9:32 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
>> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
>> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the
>> MC marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of
>> the art due to complacency and large size, like Gegroutotors. I salute
>> the Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales
>> skyrocket.
>>
>> Turnover was up 10 per cent from £200 million to £220 million. The sales
>> of Triumph motorcycles also rose by 10 per cent to 41,125 units.
>>
>> Below is from Saddle's post a couple of weeks ago. I guesssickerning
>> season in MGP is not everything. We're in a depression now & people want
>> low maintenance street bikes not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes
>> and their ancient non-rebuilt from the ground up, like Triumph Bonneville
>> and Truxtons Also a brand new idea in cruisers, not just a me too Harley.
>> I of
>> course am talking about the Rocket III. And Triumph in the past two
>> years has come out with revolutionary bikes (675 & street triple) and
>> improved versions of the Speed Triple and Tiger. The only so-so bike in
>> their line up is the Gen III Sprint but it's still a better performer
>> than large beasts like the Yamaha FJR & Honda 1300.
>>
>> Here's Saddle's excerpt from a couple of weeks ago on Ducati sales:
>>
>> Ducati North America is proud to announce that 2007 ended as the
>> company's best ever year, with retail sales passing the 10,000 mark
>> for the first time. The arrival of ground breaking new models and a
>> decisive victory in the 2007 Moto GP World Championship have brought
>> an unprecedented amount of success to the Italian brand.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
>
> NEWNAN, Georgia - January, 2, 2007 - Triumph Motorcycles (America)
> Ltd., announced today that its dealers retailed 10,726 units in the US
> during 2006.
>
> 2006 was another record setting year for sales of Ducati Motorcycles
> in North America. At year end, over 8100 motorcycles had been retail
> registered, which translated to a 16% increase in sales over 2005.
>
> Total North American sales grew by 22% in 2007; up from the previous
> record of 8,200 bikes in 2006. This impressive growth occurred while
> the overall North American motorcycle market declined in 2007. In
> addition, Ducati North America's unit sales have experienced
> significant growth over the last four years, more than doubling since
> 2003.
>
> It appears Triumph sells more motorcycles in the U.S. than Ducati
> does. It appears that Ducati sells more motorcycles worldwide than
> Triumph does.
>
> "We're in a depression now & people want low maintenance street bikes
> not rubber cam belt buck-board race bikes"
>
> I would say that's not indicated by the market. I would also point
> out that, since its inception in 1993, the Monster has been the
> leading seller in the Ducati line-up. Hardly a "buckboard race bike."
>
> Please try to let go of your indignation that some people like Ducatis
> and some people prefer them to the bikes that you choose for yourself.
>
> It's really rather unseemly.

So, you're saying Ducati sold more than the 41,000 Triumphs I quoted at the
top of this discussion? If anything it looks the other way around or Ducati
sold more in NA and less worldwide.

However....it makes little difference, rather an old prejudice on my part
being born at the end of the 2nd WW. I have never perceived Japan as near
the (Axis power) threat as Germany/Italy in WWII. Saddle's pictures of the
bombed out Ducati factory only reinforced that in my mind.

We more or less single handedly decimated (only use a A-bomb in anger) the
Japanese in WWII but were called upon to aid England of other Axis defeated
countries. It seems I still feel even today the the British our our allies
through thick and thin, so that's the under lying reason I was proud to
have the Union Jack symbol on my Sprint. You may call me a hypocrite for
buying Japanese but if you think about their part in WWII, they were more
or less cornered of any growth with few natural recourses but none the
less ruthless oppressors. They also do not push any nationalism of their
products like the Italians or British as they no damned well it would be a
negative for sales. So my thing with Triumph and Ducati boils down to a
silly post WWII soccer game more than anything else but you can admit,
having owned both that both make good products.

--
Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 21, 8:32 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.

Gee, Bob, you almost sound as if you know something about motorcycles.

You almost had me thinking that you have MC credentials until a few
weeks ago when you confessed you didn't know who Paul Smart was.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

<pjhartman RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 21, 8:32 pm, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
>> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
>> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the
>> MC
>> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
>> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
>> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales
>> skyrocket.
>
> Gee, Bob, you almost sound as if you know something about motorcycles.
>
> You almost had me thinking that you have MC credentials until a few
> weeks ago when you confessed you didn't know who Paul Smart was.
>
>
>


What does not knowing about someone who rode motorcycles have to do with
knowing something about motorcycles themselves?


--
Andrew
00 Daytona
00 Speed Triple
71 Kawi H1
05 Kiddo
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

Andrew wrote:
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4795fa7f$0$4932$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> saddlebag wrote:
>>> On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi... RemoveThis @nospam.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on
>>>>> the most
>>>>> junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not
>>>>> everone is
>>>>> buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish
>>>>> in the MC
>>>>> marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state
>>>>> of the
>>>>> art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I
>>>>> salute the
>>>>> Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales
>>>>> skyrocket.
>>>> They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>>>
>>> There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
>>> has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month. His ad
>>> states to get it fast because that one's it.
>>
>> Then they are incompetent at selling 'em. My local dealer (Hals
>> HD/Buell) sold 3 before one hit the floor.
>>
>> The one hurdle they need to cross is getting people in to the doors to
>> buy the bike. Many that would be in the market for this bike have
>> never stepped foot in an HD dealership.
>
>
>
> That would be me.
> I need to ride one; but we are deep in the winter here.
> The past 2 days have been nice, but I haven't gotten over there.
>
>
Just ignore the Village People reunion when you walk in. But make damn
sure they have at least one tech in back that has taken the 1125R
schooling in Milwaukee.

The 1125R is the easiest bike to ride fast that I've ever experienced.
It's not all the uncomfortable. The pegs a little high, but that can be
solved with adding a set of lightning pegs which are 1" lower.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

On Jan 22, 7:29 am, Tim Morrow <ct.mor....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 6:40 am, saddlebag <saddle....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....RemoveThis@nospam.com> said:
>
> > > > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the most
> > > > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone is
> > > > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in the MC
> > > > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of the
> > > > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute the
> > > > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales skyrocket.
>
> > > They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>
> > There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
> > has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month.  His ad
> > states to get it fast because that one's it.
>
> Well, there you go.  Proof that Steve is lying out his ass.  Thanks,
> Saddle!

Somebody's gotta keep you people honest. Actually, I figured they
were building them for the Euros. Good exchange rate and I seem to
recall reading they have a better following there than here.

We used to have two Harley/Buell places locally, but one gave up on
selling the Buells. He still sells Harleys at big discounts, but
won't do tradeins. The Harley/Buell guy takes trades, but I've yet to
hear of him offering to discount anything. He used to sell Suzis &
Kaws too (in fact I bought a couple bikes from him and those he'd
discount), but quit after Harley built him a big new botique. I
imagine he was requested to remove the Japanese material from floor.
I've yet to see one of the new botiques selling anything but Harley/
Buell. Kind of unique really, since I can't think of another
dealership that is dedicated to one brand.
 >> Stay informed about: Who sells more bikes, Ducati or Triumph??? 

"saddlebag" <saddlebag.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 7:29 am, Tim Morrow <ct.mor....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 22, 6:40 am, saddlebag <saddle....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 22, 1:42 am, Steve Mackay <steve_mac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 2008-01-21 20:32:24 -0600, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....DeleteThis@nospam.com> said:
>
> > > > I'm not trying to stir up the pot but why not more discussion on the
> > > > most
> > > > junior of the large bike manufacturer's or Triumph. IOW, not everone
> > > > is
> > > > buying liter plus 1098's. Harley and Honda still are the big fish in
> > > > the MC
> > > > marketplace but they're also the least likely to evolve the state of
> > > > the
> > > > art due to complacency and large size, like General Motors. I salute
> > > > the
> > > > Buells for their mew 1130 twin and would like to see their sales
> > > > skyrocket.
>
> > > They will. They can't keep up with production at the moment.
>
> > There is one Buell dealer within about a 100 mile radius of me and he
> > has one that's sat on his floor for at least the last month. His ad
> > states to get it fast because that one's it.
>
> Well, there you go. Proof that Steve is lying out his ass. Thanks,
> Saddle!

Somebody's gotta keep you people honest. Actually, I figured they
were building them for the Euros. Good exchange rate and I seem to
recall reading they have a better following there than here.

We used to have two Harley/Buell places locally, but one gave up on
selling the Buells. He still sells Harleys at big discounts, but
won't do tradeins. The Harley/Buell guy takes trades, but I've yet to
hear of him offering to discount anything. He used to sell Suzis &
Kaws too (in fact I bought a couple bikes from him and those he'd
discount), but quit after Harley built him a big new botique. I
imagine he was requested to remove the Japanese material from floor.
I've yet to see one of the new botiques selling anything but Harley/
Buell. Kind of unique really, since I can't think of another
dealership that is dedicated to one brand.




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HD of Seattle which is actually Lynnwood Cycle Barn, had to move all their
other brands to a new location a year or so ago.

So now they sell Kawi, Triumph, Yamaha at another location.



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Andrew
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