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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:35 pm
Post subject: The search for Tuner's tire
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Awhile back, MX Tuner mentioned the holy grail of tires, one that lasts
all season, bites as well in mud as sand and hard packed clay, mounts
itself, and costs under $40.
I can't seem to find it in the Dennis Kirk catalog.
So, what out there is almost as good? I'm still happy with the Michelin
S12 rear/M12 front I'm running, but I don't do much motocross, and I'm a
lot easier on tires than other members of my family.
My 14 year old, OTOH, is going through rear tires like a knife through
mustard. Dunlop 756 was OK, then a Michelin Starcross MS2, better but he
tore it up in 4 days on some of the hard packed tracks he rides. Anyone
tried a Starcross MH2? What about Bridgestone, or Pirelli/Metzeler?
Heck, I'm willing to try Maxxis and Cheng Shin, even. He favors
motocross, rides tracks that vary from groomed soft clay to ungroomed
hardpack and sand, as well as trails that vary from mud to hardpack to
rock to sand.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:35 pm
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Hard Working Dog <tiredof RemoveThis @mindlessspam.com> wrote:
>Awhile back, MX Tuner mentioned the holy grail of tires, one that lasts
>all season, bites as well in mud as sand and hard packed clay, mounts
>itself, and costs under $40.
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Tuner lies. You have to get the tire plated at Gorr's first....
I've heard good things about the Kenda Millville being an acceptable
less pricy substitute for the Michelins. I haven't tried one yet.
Jim Hall
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:34 pm
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 10:56:51 -0700, Jim Hall
<jdhall RemoveThis @nospammolaplateng.co> spewed forth:
>>Awhile back, MX Tuner mentioned the holy grail of tires, one that lasts
>>all season, bites as well in mud as sand and hard packed clay, mounts
>>itself, and costs under $40.
>Tuner lies. You have to get the tire plated at Gorr's first....
Only the Maxxis. That's the only way to make them last.
>I've heard good things about the Kenda Millville being an acceptable
>less pricy substitute for the Michelins. I haven't tried one yet.
I haven't tried the Kenda. The Michelin MH2 wears extremely well, even
on 450 four strokes.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 7:52 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:09 pm
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In article <4071AAFA.4D7CD6E.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>,
Chris Buckley <cnbuckley.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote:
> One of my all time favorite rear tyres is the IRC M5B, even though it's
> a mud tyre, it works just about everywhere, and resists chunking
> extremely well.
Thanks, I'll put it on the list.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:26 pm
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"Chris Buckley" <cnbuckley RemoveThis @earthlink.net> sez:
> One of my all time favorite rear tyres is the IRC M5B, even though it's
> a mud tyre, it works just about everywhere, and resists chunking
> extremely well.
My fav is the IRC VE-33 for the same reasons. I ran an M5B on my XR400 and
it was real "nervous" feeling on decomposed granite soils and hardpack. I
think it was from the wide spacing between the knobs. On loose stuff
though, you can't beat the M5B.
The IRC VE-33 rear combined with the VE-35F front is excellent at doing a
good job on most all surfaces and wears very well on the rocks. The tall
knob profile makes it OK for sand 'n stuff like that.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.accwhse.com/photos/irc_vulcan_ve3335.gif" target="_blank">http://www.accwhse.com/photos/irc_vulcan_ve3335.gif</a>
Good hookin' up to ya,
VLJ
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:35 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:38 pm
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"Chris Buckley" <cnbuckley.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> sez:
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> The VE33 is probably one of the best, all-around, tyres ever created,
> the only problem I have with it, is that it runs really narrow for it's
> rated size.
Yeah, that's why I go with the 5.10x18 on my XR ... wish they made a 5.10x19
for the CRF instead of the 110/90X19.
Good ridin' to ya,
VLJ
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:36 pm
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<MX Tuner> wrote in message
news:tln370hg8u5ifbc52ejhhnhe5imrpnmisp@4ax.com...
> I haven't tried the Kenda. The Michelin MH2 wears extremely well, even
> on 450 four strokes.
I tried a Kenda Millville rear and even though it wore well it was horrible
traction. I was not happy with it.
I have a set of MH2's on there now and am VERY happy. It works well on hard
pack, really well in softer stuff and great in the mud too.
I have a set of MS2's already on a set of rims ready to go on for a really
wet mudslop but the way the MH2's are working I'll probably just use the
MS2's as a interim tire while getting MH2 replacements.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:34 am
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>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:38:38 GMT, "vlj" <v.RemoveThis@l.j> wrote:
>"Chris Buckley" <cnbuckley.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> sez:
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>> The VE33 is probably one of the best, all-around, tyres ever created,
>> the only problem I have with it, is that it runs really narrow for it's
>> rated size.
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>Yeah, that's why I go with the 5.10x18 on my XR ... wish they made a 5.10x19
>for the CRF instead of the 110/90X19.
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>Good ridin' to ya,
>VLJ
For deep sandand mud, I like the S-12 the best.
I like them best, as long as wet rocks are not involved.
For use in the rocks (especially when wet and slick) and intermediate
terrain, and still decent control and traction on the sand and mud, I
like the Kenda Millville front, mated to a Bridgestone M-402 rear.
12 psi front in the rocks, 11 in the mud.
rear - 11.5 in the rocks, and 10 in the sand.
These seem to wear a long time also.
Jim
(On Deb's Computer.I'm dirtbike52.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net)
"99 Gas Gas EC274 (Sweet Baby)
Team LAGNAF
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:43 pm
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A buddy in Ohio has found something close. That would be four of the
756s he buys from a local pro-am rider after one race on them for
eight to 10 bucks a pop.
James
00CR250
Hard Working Dog <tiredof.RemoveThis@mindlessspam.com> wrote...
> Awhile back, MX Tuner mentioned the holy grail of tires, one that lasts
> all season, bites as well in mud as sand and hard packed clay, mounts
> itself, and costs under $40.
>
> I can't seem to find it in the Dennis Kirk catalog.
>
> So, what out there is almost as good? I'm still happy with the Michelin
> S12 rear/M12 front I'm running, but I don't do much motocross, and I'm a
> lot easier on tires than other members of my family.
>
> My 14 year old, OTOH, is going through rear tires like a knife through
> mustard. Dunlop 756 was OK, then a Michelin Starcross MS2, better but he
> tore it up in 4 days on some of the hard packed tracks he rides. Anyone
> tried a Starcross MH2? What about Bridgestone, or Pirelli/Metzeler?
> Heck, I'm willing to try Maxxis and Cheng Shin, even. He favors
> motocross, rides tracks that vary from groomed soft clay to ungroomed
> hardpack and sand, as well as trails that vary from mud to hardpack to
> rock to sand.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: The search for Tuner's tire |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 3:38 pm
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In article <10742fc1og8sbce.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>,
"Truespode" <ivan.RemoveThis@dotgoesafterTRUESPODEbutbeforethe.NET> wrote:
> <MX Tuner> wrote in message
> news:tln370hg8u5ifbc52ejhhnhe5imrpnmisp@4ax.com...
> > I haven't tried the Kenda. The Michelin MH2 wears extremely well, even
> > on 450 four strokes.
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>
> I tried a Kenda Millville rear and even though it wore well it was horrible
> traction. I was not happy with it.
>
> I have a set of MH2's on there now and am VERY happy. It works well on hard
> pack, really well in softer stuff and great in the mud too.
>
> I have a set of MS2's already on a set of rims ready to go on for a really
> wet mudslop but the way the MH2's are working I'll probably just use the
> MS2's as a interim tire while getting MH2 replacements.
Looks like the MH2 is going on the list. Thanks.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:49 pm
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In article <a2f72c3f.0404061143.68e94f53 RemoveThis @posting.google.com>,
midwestmotocross RemoveThis @yahoo.com (James) wrote:
> A buddy in Ohio has found something close. That would be four of the
> 756s he buys from a local pro-am rider after one race on them for
> eight to 10 bucks a pop.
>
That would work. Especially if they were 756RRs. I wouldn't mind finding
a connection like that. Not to mention some 2 hour old fenders and
shrouds, etc.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:12 am
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Jim Hall <jdhall.TakeThisOut@nospammolaplateng.co> wrote in message news:<lb7370l3cc2gc5mf0u2s1fiojaef7il1t4.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
> Hard Working Dog <tiredof.TakeThisOut@mindlessspam.com> wrote:
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> >Awhile back, MX Tuner mentioned the holy grail of tires, one that lasts
> >all season, bites as well in mud as sand and hard packed clay, mounts
> >itself, and costs under $40.
> >
> Tuner lies. You have to get the tire plated at Gorr's first....
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> I've heard good things about the Kenda Millville being an acceptable
> less pricy substitute for the Michelins. I haven't tried one yet.
>
> Jim Hall
> 520 EXC and others
> turning Money into Noise...
I've got a couple rides on a set of Millvilles... pretty good I guess.
I'm probalby not the best judge of tires due to my lack of ability.
But I haven't seen amy great differece from the S-12s I was running.
They may end up wearing longer though. Not sure yet.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: The search for Tuner's tire |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:14 am
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Chris Buckley <cnbuckley.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<4071AAFA.4D7CD6E.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>...
> One of my all time favorite rear tyres is the IRC M5B, even though it's
> a mud tyre, it works just about everywhere, and resists chunking
> extremely well.
A friend of mine runs M5b on the rear. He likes it. But be warned, it
is a knobb spitting sob.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: The search for Tuner's tire |
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