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GB wrote:
> "Nev.." <idiot.TakeThisOut@mindless.com> wrote in
> news:45e8f80b$0$31094$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
>> Can't say I think much of them.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Seems an appropriate claim to me.
>
>
>> As with the other discussion about dayglo
>> vests, I think if you find that other road users don't see you often
>> enough that you want to do something about it, getting a jacket or
>> flashing headlight to deal with that is like putting a band aid on
>> your finger to fix a broken leg.
>
> That's the kind of logic I've come to expect from you Nev:
>
> "Bandaids are no good for fixing broken legs,
> therefore bandaids are no good."

If that's what I said, then you would be right, however that's not what
I said. I never said they were no good, so you look like the silly
monkey, again.

> Conveniently ignoring the bit where bandaids are a perfectly
> suitable fix for a cut finger just makes you look silly.

You obviously missed the point entirely.
Hint: Your finger isn't cut.

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX
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Rex Turner wrote:

> Don't you know
>> that it is not necessary to provide an immediate defence?
>
> True, but why have to go to some country magistrate when not required ?
> All I need to do is gently point out that they are permitted - the average
> copper
> has never seemed to have heard of them - at least in Weston where I work.

You don't have to go to a magistrate either. Postman Pat delivers.

How often do you actually get stopped by the police because you have a
modulator fitted ?

Nev..
'04 CBR1100XX
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> You don't have to go to a magistrate either. Postman Pat delivers.

Ah, (the education continues) so that's what happens...
>
> How often do you actually get stopped by the police because you have a
> modulator fitted ?

Never, but just like carrying a First Aid kit and Tyre repair stuff,
I'm convinced that it will happen one day <G>
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Point taken. Since my post the silly bugger has been pinged for BAC of
0.086 <sigh> So it may be irrelevant for the next 6 months....

Rob
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Moto Guzzi Norge (red) <--- had to put that in, picked up the new bike
yesterday!


"Nev.." <idiot.TakeThisOut@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> bobra wrote:
>
>> My son has recently purchased a bike and "roadcraft" is a very difficult
>> skill to pass on - so far, so good and he seems to be learning very
>> quickly but, as they say [who are "they"?], it's not if you'll fall off,
>> it's when you'll fall off. I can only hope it relatively minor. I've
>> enroled him in a Stay Upright course but they don't come to Adelaide
>> until May.....
>
> If Mohammed won't come to the mountain...
>
> ..what's stopping you from taking a few days off, booking a course in
> Melbourne, and making a leisurely 4-5 day return trip of it?
> (Time and resources permitting of course)
>
> Nev..
> '04 CBR1100XX
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In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:49:40 +1030
bobra <ess355_nospam.DeleteThis@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Point taken. Since my post the silly bugger has been pinged for BAC of
> 0.086 <sigh> So it may be irrelevant for the next 6 months....

Stupidity is seldom fixable.

> Rob
> --------------------
> Moto Guzzi Norge (red) <--- had to put that in, picked up the new bike
> yesterday!

Wooo!

A man with taste! (not as much taste as if you had picked up a
loopframe, but enough...)

Zebee
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"bobra" <ess355_nospam DeleteThis @tpg.com.au> wrote
>
> Rob
> --------------------
> Moto Guzzi Norge (red) <--- had to put that in, picked up the new bike yesterday!
>
>


WOOHOO!!!! New Bike ever!!!!

Congrats.

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Dale Porter
GPX250 -> CBR600 -> VTR1000 + VT250F-J
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Harsh call - Stupid? Yes. Will he learn? I think so.

His breathalyser reading was 0.086 but his blood test came in under 0.08 -
not sure what that means legally but we'll find out.

Rob


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> In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:49:40 +1030
> bobra <ess355_nospam.RemoveThis@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> Point taken. Since my post the silly bugger has been pinged for BAC of
>> 0.086 <sigh> So it may be irrelevant for the next 6 months....
>
> Stupidity is seldom fixable.
>
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In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:57:41 +1030
bobra <ess355_nospam.RemoveThis@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> Harsh call - Stupid? Yes. Will he learn? I think so.

We can hope THe wakeup might be enough, depends if he thinks "DUI
is stupid" or "Getting caught is stupid"....


>
> His breathalyser reading was 0.086 but his blood test came in under 0.08 -
> not sure what that means legally but we'll find out.

Is .08 the limit where you are? I thought all states had been
blackmailed into .05.

Zebee
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In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:25:48 +1100
Goaty <John.Lamp RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As far as effectiveness, though, one my leadwing riding mates in the US
> was t-boned (bye bye GL1500) while riding in middle of group, wearing
> conspicuity vest, with headlight modulator on, by a SMIDSY.

Was the guide dog hurt?

Zebee
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0.08 is a critical point in SA - 0.05 - .079 is a fine and loss of points
but no loss of license for a first offence. 0.08 and over is automatic and
immediate 6 months loss of license.

The kid made a bad decision due to inexperience. He had his bike stolen on
Friday night and went to a BBQ on Saturday afternoon. Took a taxi to the
party (right decision) and the police called him to say they'd located his
bike (about 400 m from his home) but he had to pick it up immediately. They
told him if it was stolen from where they'd located it, they didn't want to
know about it. So, he took a cab home and recovered the bike - the ignition
wiring was ripped out and he wheeled it back home. He thought he was OK so
jumped in the car and drove back to the party (wrong decision) but was
pulled up for a random check on the way.....

We live in different times from when I was a 20 year old (probably a good
thing!).

-r



"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:57:41 +1030
> bobra <ess355_nospam.DeleteThis@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>> Harsh call - Stupid? Yes. Will he learn? I think so.
>
> We can hope THe wakeup might be enough, depends if he thinks "DUI
> is stupid" or "Getting caught is stupid"....
>
>
>>
>> His breathalyser reading was 0.086 but his blood test came in under
>> 0.08 -
>> not sure what that means legally but we'll find out.
>
> Is .08 the limit where you are? I thought all states had been
> blackmailed into .05.
>
> Zebee
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"bobra" <ess355_nospam DeleteThis @tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:45ea2427$0$26594$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com...
> 0.08 is a critical point in SA - 0.05 - .079 is a fine and loss of points but no loss of license for a first offence. 0.08 and
> over is automatic and immediate 6 months loss of license.
>
> The kid made a bad decision due to inexperience. He had his bike stolen on Friday night and went to a BBQ on Saturday afternoon.
> Took a taxi to the party (right decision) and the police called him to say they'd located his bike (about 400 m from his home) but
> he had to pick it up immediately. They told him if it was stolen from where they'd located it, they didn't want to know about it.
> So, he took a cab home and recovered the bike - the ignition wiring was ripped out and he wheeled it back home. He thought he was
> OK so jumped in the car and drove back to the party (wrong decision) but was pulled up for a random check on the way.....
>
> We live in different times from when I was a 20 year old (probably a good thing!).
>
>

Sheesh! Talk about bad news, good news, bad news.

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Nev.. wrote:
> Goaty wrote:
>
>> Rex Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Legal in ACT and VIC sir.
>>> It's in the Road Safety(Vehicles) Regulations 1999, Section 77(3).
>>> "A motorcycle may be fitted with a headlight modulation system that...."
>>
>>
>> Bugger! It is too! How come we never noticed!
>
>
> Eh?? They've been discussed in aus.moto a number of times over the
> years. I can only actually remember seeing one bike in my life with a
> modulator fitted.. and that would have been in the early 1990s. Can't
> say I think much of them. As with the other discussion about dayglo
> vests, I think if you find that other road users don't see you often
> enough that you want to do something about it, getting a jacket or
> flashing headlight to deal with that is like putting a band aid on your
> finger to fix a broken leg.

Yes, Nev, they've been discussed before, but no one (IMHO) has pointed
out the regulations before!

As far as effectiveness, though, one my leadwing riding mates in the US
was t-boned (bye bye GL1500) while riding in middle of group, wearing
conspicuity vest, with headlight modulator on, by a SMIDSY.

Cheers
Goaty
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