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atec77 wrote:

> http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__501554/Ar...leID__2

"The report claims there will be a 2-4 per cent reduction in motorcycle road
trauma as a result of the change"

2-4%, they're clutching at straws I see.

From the Vicroads web site, only 3% of registered vehicles are motorcycles,
but 14% of the road fatalities are motorcyclists.

Yep, that's going to make huge difference.

And considering the report also says that's due to stop speeding (where the
cameras and radars are), it'll make even more of a zero difference. How many
motorcycle fatalities occurred near a camera or radar? For that matter, how
many fatalities of ANY type occurred near cameras or radar?

Certainly not surprised it's the Victorians though.
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Will_S wrote:
> so u are in Queensland
>
> so when it works successfully in Vic and more money is made do you think
> the rednecks will ignore it ?


Take a guess about me sport , do you understand tongue in cheek

I am politically active locally and if that fails I will feed them
milk and aspro
>
> btw: rednecks is the nicest thing I have ever said about our pollies
>
>
> "atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__501554/Ar...leID__2
>
>
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"atec77" <atec77NOSPAM DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Will_S wrote:
>> so u are in Queensland
>>
>> so when it works successfully in Vic and more money is made do you think
>> the rednecks will ignore it ?
>
>
> Take a guess about me sport , do you understand tongue in cheek


with you its a matter of who's cheek it is
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Will_S wrote:
>
> "atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Will_S wrote:
>>> so u are in Queensland
>>>
>>> so when it works successfully in Vic and more money is made do you
>>> think the rednecks will ignore it ?
>>
>>
>> Take a guess about me sport , do you understand tongue in cheek
>
>
> with you its a matter of who's cheek it is


it matters to me if not your preverted self .


Now what other false assumption will you be making

and should the ball persons be alert ?


or will your shots continue to fall short ?
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"atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Will_S wrote:
>>
>> "atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fnha3a$pfh$7@aioe.org...
>>> Will_S wrote:
>>>> so u are in Queensland
>>>>
>>>> so when it works successfully in Vic and more money is made do you
>>>> think the rednecks will ignore it ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Take a guess about me sport , do you understand tongue in cheek
>>
>>
>> with you its a matter of who's cheek it is
>
>
> it matters to me if not your preverted self .
>
>
> Now what other false assumption will you be making
>
> and should the ball persons be alert ?


Now who is perverted.............

>
>
> or will your shots continue to fall short ?

They found the intended target
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Will_S wrote:
>
> "atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Will_S wrote:
>>>
>>> "atec77" <atec77NOSPAM RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fnha3a$pfh$7@aioe.org...
>>>> Will_S wrote:
>>>>> so u are in Queensland
>>>>>
>>>>> so when it works successfully in Vic and more money is made do you
>>>>> think the rednecks will ignore it ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take a guess about me sport , do you understand tongue in cheek
>>>
>>>
>>> with you its a matter of who's cheek it is
>>
>>
>> it matters to me if not your preverted self .
>>
>>
>> Now what other false assumption will you be making
>>
>> and should the ball persons be alert ?
>
>
> Now who is perverted.............
Not I said the fly
>
>>
>>
>> or will your shots continue to fall short ?
>
> They found the intended target
If you say so
now do you hear the sound over head ?
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"John Tserkezis" <jt RemoveThis @techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote in message
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> atec77 wrote:
>
> And considering the report also says that's due to stop speeding (where
> the cameras and radars are), it'll make even more of a zero difference.
> How many motorcycle fatalities occurred near a camera or radar? For that
> matter, how many fatalities of ANY type occurred near cameras or radar?
>

That must be because they work, obviously!
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zipper wrote:

>> And considering the report also says that's due to stop speeding
>> (where the cameras and radars are), it'll make even more of a zero
>> difference. How many motorcycle fatalities occurred near a camera or
>> radar? For that matter, how many fatalities of ANY type occurred near
>> cameras or radar?

> That must be because they work, obviously!

Much like that elephant repellent we have installed in our front yard.
Haven't seen any elephants lately, so it obviously must be working. A proven
technology if you will.

Only difference between my elephant repellent and the speed cameras, is they
spent more money on their marketing people, and thus can show a profit.
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I posted this story on a forum IM on, and one bloke who goes by the
name Road Nazi's (yea bacon in franga), some of his replies to th
story.



>Motorcyclists...getting a fine. That is a start. On the spot..a week later...it is all good
> Revenue raising...road safety...doesn't matter..as long as they start towing the line..it is all good. A few extra demerits may cause them to adjust their riding style.
> Nah, motorcyclists tend to hide behind their invincibility and covert apearance... They had number plates in the 40's and 50's...just wasn't trendy to have them in the last 50 years. And don't try the front number plate is dangerous routine...bloody riding a motorcycle is dangerous ...fullstop.
>Motorcyclists..welcome to the 21st century
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On Jan 27, 4:19 pm, atec77 <atec77NOS....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__501554/A...

Have these idiots forgotten the reason these things were abandoned
across the entire planet in the first place?

They're dangerous. To the rider and to pedestrians involved in
collisions. Suddenly revenue collection is more important than
peoples lives. We must live in a society with deeply confused morals
for a proposal such as this to be taken seriously..
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the big dog wrote:
> On Jan 27, 4:19 pm, atec77 <atec77NOS... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__501554/A...
>
> Have these idiots forgotten the reason these things were abandoned
> across the entire planet in the first place?
>
> They're dangerous. To the rider and to pedestrians involved in
> collisions. Suddenly revenue collection is more important than
> peoples lives. We must live in a society with deeply confused morals
> for a proposal such as this to be taken seriously..
Obviously several layers of the govco do not change when the top end of

town changes , along with those levels come draconian std of thought and

behaviours so I wonder if purging the career uncivil servants might be

an idea ?
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Tas police bikes have been running illegal front plates for a few years now.


Illegal because the road rules in Tas say you may not run a front plate on a
bike. They are stuck to the windscreen.



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the big dog wrote:
> On Jan 27, 4:19 pm, atec77 <atec77NOS... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.bikepoint.com.au/portal/alias__bikepointau/tabID__501554/A...
>
> Have these idiots forgotten the reason these things were abandoned
> across the entire planet in the first place?
>
> They're dangerous. To the rider and to pedestrians involved in
> collisions. Suddenly revenue collection is more important than
> peoples lives. We must live in a society with deeply confused morals
> for a proposal such as this to be taken seriously..

How is a front numberplate dangerous to the rider?
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