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bikerbetty

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 4:04 am
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm

Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury

A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
Park, near Penrith.
He was not wearing a helmet, and he had to be sedated after he became
violent.
Paramedics say his daughter was riding on his lap and despite the force of
the crash, she was not injured at all.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:32 am
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There oughta be a law against that sort of idiocy. Oh hang on, there is
already, isn't there ?

Sad but very lucky little miss is OK.

bikerbetty wrote:
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>
> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>
> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
> Park, near Penrith.
> He was not wearing a helmet, and he had to be sedated after he became
> violent.
> Paramedics say his daughter was riding on his lap and despite the force of
> the crash, she was not injured at all.
>
>

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Zebee Johnstone

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:40 am
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In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:31 +1100
bikerbetty <bikerbetty RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>
> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>
> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
> Park, near Penrith.

I wonder if it was a motorcycle or one of those bloody minibike
things?

I suppose helmetless means "quick spin around the block to give the
kid a thrill" such as we did on the farm years ago....

Zebee
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:07 pm
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:31 +1100
> bikerbetty <bikerbetty DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>>
>> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>>
>> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
>> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
>> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
>> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
>> Park, near Penrith.
>
> I wonder if it was a motorcycle or one of those bloody minibike
> things?
>
> I suppose helmetless means "quick spin around the block to give the
> kid a thrill" such as we did on the farm years ago....
>
> Zebee


So true, and who hasn't put their kid on the tank for a quick run around the
block,
But as was said, there is no detail as to what kind of bike it was, could
have been a quad
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:19 pm
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:31 +1100
> bikerbetty <bikerbetty DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>>
>> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>>
>> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
>> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
>> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
>> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
>> Park, near Penrith.
>
> I wonder if it was a motorcycle or one of those bloody minibike
> things?
>
> I suppose helmetless means "quick spin around the block to give the
> kid a thrill" such as we did on the farm years ago....
>
I took the "park" bit literally and assumed it was in a park (or back yard).
If it was on the street then he deserves to be kicked!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 1:19 pm
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"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnfn1gft.nl9.zebeej@gmail.com...
>> In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:31 +1100
>> bikerbetty <bikerbetty.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>>>
>>> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>>>
>>> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was
>>> riding
>>> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
>>> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
>>> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at
>>> Glenmore
>>> Park, near Penrith.
>>
>> I wonder if it was a motorcycle or one of those bloody minibike
>> things?
>>
>> I suppose helmetless means "quick spin around the block to give the
>> kid a thrill" such as we did on the farm years ago....
>>
> I took the "park" bit literally and assumed it was in a park (or back
> yard).
> If it was on the street then he deserves to be kicked!
> --
> Clem
When my son was 3 we used to go on a Christmas Eve ride around the
neighborhood with the wife on the back and son on the tank. A chilly but
satisfying way to see the lights. BTW I am in the northern hemisphere.
Merry Christmas
McWideglide
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:09 pm
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"Zebee Johnstone" <zebeej RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:19:31 +1100
> bikerbetty <bikerbetty RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/25/2127239.htm
>>
>> Girl in motorbike crash escapes injury
>>
>> A three-year-old girl has avoided injury after a motorbike she was riding
>> with her father crashed in Sydney's west.
>> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
>> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
>> Park, near Penrith.
>
> I wonder if it was a motorcycle or one of those bloody minibike
> things?
>
> I suppose helmetless means "quick spin around the block to give the
> kid a thrill" such as we did on the farm years ago....
>
> Zebee

Yeah, the information that's given is designed to inflame people's
emotions - I wish there was a bit more detail...

betty
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:09 pm
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Yeebers wrote:
> There oughta be a law against that sort of idiocy. Oh hang on, there is
> already, isn't there ?
>
> Sad but very lucky little miss is OK.

Why is it sad? I thought the article said she was not injured at all.

Nev..
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 2:09 pm
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Sad that a parent'd apparently ride with a child pillion, helmetless
with the child sat on the tank.

Nev.. wrote:
> Yeebers wrote:
>> There oughta be a law against that sort of idiocy. Oh hang on, there
>> is already, isn't there ?
>>
>> Sad but very lucky little miss is OK.
>
> Why is it sad? I thought the article said she was not injured at all.
>
> Nev..
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:04 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:23 am
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Yeebers wrote:
> Sad that a parent'd apparently ride with a child pillion, helmetless
> with the child sat on the tank.

She didn't get hurt, so it must be safe. What's the problem?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:23 am
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In that one instance it was not safe otherwise Dad wouldn't have gotten
hurt. Whether there's ever going to be an instance where doing that is
safe or not, I am not going to say but I have doubts.

Nev.. wrote:
> Yeebers wrote:
>> Sad that a parent'd apparently ride with a child pillion, helmetless
>> with the child sat on the tank.
>
> She didn't get hurt, so it must be safe. What's the problem?
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:24 am
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In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:17:54 GMT
Yeebers <yeeb.DeleteThis@yeeb.yeeb> wrote:
> In that one instance it was not safe otherwise Dad wouldn't have gotten
> hurt. Whether there's ever going to be an instance where doing that is
> safe or not, I am not going to say but I have doubts.

So the helmetless might not be safe, the sitting on the tank clearly
was.

(We don't know what the rider's injury was. Is there any reason to
assume it was a head injury and not a broken leg?)

let us get one thing very straight here. Motorcycling is dangerous.
All protective kit (and sitting on the saddle not the tank) can do is
make consequences of going rubber side up less in some circumstances.

Your helmet will not protect you in all cases, neither with leathers.
Neither will riding in the government approved position[1]. Or at the
government approved speed on a government approved bike come to that.

There's also this matter of statistics. Over the years, a certain
number of people get hurt riding bikes. Some of them didn't wear
helmets/leathers/boots. Alas it is rather hard to find what injuries
people had and match that to riding gear, and to circumstances of crash.
And of course it's a population, it tells you nothing about what might
happen to a single individual when they get on their bike in the
morning.

Ride your bike how you want to, wearing what you want to, but
acknowledge that you can still get very badly hurt. And that someone
who rides a bike you think is a deathtrap, wearing nothing but a
smile, can do that for years and still be quite unhurt while someone
else in full gear and a nice new bike with ABS and crashbars can end
up joining the choir invisible.

If the fun ain't worth the possible consequences, buy a car. If it
is, keep riding.

Zebee

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:24 am
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Only this from the OP indicates a head injury rather than a broken leg :
> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at Glenmore
> Park, near Penrith.

Otherwise though, all valid points.

Zebee Johnstone wrote:
> In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 26 Dec 2007 04:17:54 GMT
> Yeebers <yeeb.RemoveThis@yeeb.yeeb> wrote:
>> In that one instance it was not safe otherwise Dad wouldn't have gotten
>> hurt. Whether there's ever going to be an instance where doing that is
>> safe or not, I am not going to say but I have doubts.
>
> (We don't know what the rider's injury was. Is there any reason to
> assume it was a head injury and not a broken leg?)
>
> let us get one thing very straight here. Motorcycling is dangerous.
> All protective kit (and sitting on the saddle not the tank) can do is
> make consequences of going rubber side up less in some circumstances.
>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 2:23 am
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Yeebers wrote:
> Only this from the OP indicates a head injury rather than a broken leg :
>> The NRMA Careflight service says a 32-year-old man has been taken to
>> hospital after fracturing his skull when he came off the bike at
>> Glenmore Park, near Penrith.

The reports said it was a 3yo girl who was on the bike. It was a 7yo
boy. You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. Smile

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