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A.Clews

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:41 am
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:41 am
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:41 am
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peter.DeleteThis@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:

> On 25 Nov, 14:58, "Krusty" <dontwant....DeleteThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > Champ wrote:
> > > <snipola>
> >
> > > So, now we've had fun with my ignorance, can anyone give advice on
> > > re-coating?
> >
> > If it's just black satin paint rather than some fancy coating, I'd
> > recommend Sperex Tough Black Satin. Unsurprisingly, it's tough,
> > black, & satin. Available from all[1] good motor factors.
>
> A man of Champ's means may want to consider low temperature powder
> coating.

Can you get satin powder coating then? I've had various bits done over
the years, & it always comes out shiny. Well shinier than what I'd
consider a satin finish to be, anyhow.


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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 3:43 pm
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Champ <neal DeleteThis @champ.org.uk> wrote:

> Any idea where I could get such a thing done?

Collins Chemical Blacking. Two miles from the Chateau. Google for 'em.


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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:43 pm
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peter.TakeThisOut@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:

> On 25 Nov, 16:20, "Krusty" <dontwant....TakeThisOut@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
> > pe....TakeThisOut@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >
> > > A man of Champ's means may want to consider low temperature powder
> > > coating.
> >
> > Can you get satin powder coating then? I've had various bits done
> > over the years, & it always comes out shiny. Well shinier than what
> > I'd consider a satin finish to be, anyhow.
>
> Short answer - yes. Certainly for industrial applications. Long answer
> - there are several types of powder coating. Some can give what is
> called a satin finish. It may be possible to find someone who can do
> this on alloy motorcycle parts to achieve the desired effect in black.

Interesting. At some point I'd like to strip the RatTig & make
absolutely everything satin black, & some bits need powder coating for
the durability.


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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:51 am
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In message <eAm2j.45448$T8.34226@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
"Krusty" <dontwantany.DeleteThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>peter@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
>> On 25 Nov, 16:20, "Krusty" <dontwant....DeleteThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>> > pe....DeleteThis@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:
>> >
>> > > A man of Champ's means may want to consider low temperature powder
>> > > coating.
>> >
>> > Can you get satin powder coating then? I've had various bits done
>> > over the years, & it always comes out shiny. Well shinier than what
>> > I'd consider a satin finish to be, anyhow.
>>
>> Short answer - yes. Certainly for industrial applications. Long answer
>> - there are several types of powder coating. Some can give what is
>> called a satin finish. It may be possible to find someone who can do
>> this on alloy motorcycle parts to achieve the desired effect in black.
>
>Interesting. At some point I'd like to strip the RatTig & make
>absolutely everything satin black, & some bits need powder coating for
>the durability.
>

Delurking,
You should take into consideration when you choose a particular colour
especially for powder coating is that the powder coating process can
cause major colour discrepancies when heat is applied during the powder
coating process.

For example:
You can have the exact same paint turn out different shades of colour
simply by using different heat settings.

Not so important with "black" but if you need to have parts powder
coated then have them all done at the same time on the same heat setting
to guarantee the colours to be an accurate shade.

The heat settings can and does alter even standard colours like BS or
RAL etc.

Just my two pence worth.

Stephen.



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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:47 pm
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Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Stephen Hull typed:
> In message <eAm2j.45448$T8.34226@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
> "Krusty" <dontwantany DeleteThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> peter DeleteThis @ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>> On 25 Nov, 16:20, "Krusty" <dontwant... DeleteThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> pe... DeleteThis @ps-fisher.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A man of Champ's means may want to consider low temperature powder
>>>>> coating.
>>>>
>>>> Can you get satin powder coating then? I've had various bits done
>>>> over the years, & it always comes out shiny. Well shinier than what
>>>> I'd consider a satin finish to be, anyhow.
>>>
>>> Short answer - yes. Certainly for industrial applications. Long
>>> answer - there are several types of powder coating. Some can give
>>> what is called a satin finish. It may be possible to find someone
>>> who can do this on alloy motorcycle parts to achieve the desired
>>> effect in black.
>>
>> Interesting. At some point I'd like to strip the RatTig & make
>> absolutely everything satin black, & some bits need powder coating
>> for the durability.
>>
>
> Delurking,
> You should take into consideration when you choose a particular colour
> especially for powder coating is that the powder coating process can
> cause major colour discrepancies when heat is applied during the
> powder coating process.
>
> For example:
> You can have the exact same paint turn out different shades of colour
> simply by using different heat settings.
>
> Not so important with "black" but if you need to have parts powder
> coated then have them all done at the same time on the same heat
> setting to guarantee the colours to be an accurate shade.
>
> The heat settings can and does alter even standard colours like BS or
> RAL etc.
>
> Just my two pence worth.
>
> Stephen.

Stephen - fancy meeting you here! How the hell are you? You've been in the
shadows for a long while.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:47 pm
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:04:17 +0000,
chateau.murray.takethisout DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:

>Champ <neal DeleteThis @champ.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Any idea where I could get such a thing done?
>
>Collins Chemical Blacking. Two miles from the Chateau. Google for 'em.

Crikey - they look perfect!

I'd better strip the forks down and come and visit with a bottle Smile
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:47 pm
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In message <5r0jugF128nj2U1.TakeThisOut@mid.individual.net>
"Rich B" <richard.brookmanNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@THANKSbtinternet.com> wrote:

>Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Stephen Hull typed:
>> In message <eAm2j.45448$T8.34226@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
>> "Krusty" <dontwantany.TakeThisOut@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>

[snip]

>> The heat settings can and does alter even standard colours like BS or
>> RAL etc.
>>
>> Just my two pence worth.
>>
>> Stephen.
>
>Stephen - fancy meeting you here! How the hell are you? You've been
>in the shadows for a long while.
>
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>

Hello Richard, Not seen you in the usual groups for a while either.
I've been lurking in here for yonks but not found anything constructive
to say and as you probably know I only really respond to paint related
subjects, sad I know.

I've been busy attempting to write a book on coach painting but work
commitments have prevented me from getting beyond the first chapter.
I doubt I'll continue further but it all went well initially, though
you're welcome to read some of the 26 pages already written.

I still have the old AJS but I do intend to sell it in the spring.

Hope you're well!

Regards,

Stephen.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:53 pm
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Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Stephen Hull typed:
> In message <5r0jugF128nj2U1.DeleteThis@mid.individual.net>
> "Rich B" <richard.brookmanNOSPAM.DeleteThis@THANKSbtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Sucking his keyboard for inspiration, Stephen Hull typed:
>>> In message <eAm2j.45448$T8.34226@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
>>> "Krusty" <dontwantany.DeleteThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>
> [snip]
>
>>> The heat settings can and does alter even standard colours like BS
>>> or RAL etc.
>>>
>>> Just my two pence worth.
>>>
>>> Stephen.
>>
>> Stephen - fancy meeting you here! How the hell are you? You've been
>> in the shadows for a long while.

> Hello Richard, Not seen you in the usual groups for a while either.
> I've been lurking in here for yonks but not found anything
> constructive to say and as you probably know I only really respond to
> paint related subjects, sad I know.

No, that's an excellent approach. Write about what you know - nah, it'll
never work on Usenet.

> Hope you're well!

Never better, thanks.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:53 pm
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Champ <neal DeleteThis @champ.org.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:04:17 +0000,
> chateau.murray.takethisout DeleteThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older Gentleman) wrote:
>
> >Champ <neal DeleteThis @champ.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Any idea where I could get such a thing done?
> >
> >Collins Chemical Blacking. Two miles from the Chateau. Google for 'em.
>
> Crikey - they look perfect!
>
> I'd better strip the forks down and come and visit with a bottle Smile

I've used 'em for paint. They're good.


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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:09 am
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On 25 Nov, 20:04, chateau.murray.takethis... RemoveThis @dsl.pipex.com (The Older
Gentleman) wrote:
> Champ <n... RemoveThis @champ.org.uk> wrote:
> > Any idea where I could get such a thing done?
>
> Collins Chemical Blacking. Two miles from the Chateau. Google for 'em.

Does that work on non-ferrous then?

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:37 am
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In article <fibct8$o9d$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
A.Clews.DeleteThis@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk writes
>Thus spake sweller (sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> platypus wrote:
>
>>> > > > [1] is this the correct name for the bit that goes up and down
>>> >
>>> > > Slidey bit = slider
>>> > > Stationary bit = stanchion
>>> >
>>> > That's my understanding.
>>>
>>> I'm slightly gobsmacked by this discussion. Does anyone know what the
>>> bulgy metal thing that the petrol goes in is called?
>
>> Carburettor
>
>Cylinder head.
>
>I reckon Haynes could use our services to write a new series of manuals on
>"Motorcycle Maintenance for Idiots". Now there's a business opportunity.

Who is Mr. Haynes?


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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:38 am
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:09:31 -0800 (PST), peter.RemoveThis@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk
<peter.RemoveThis@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk>
wrote in <589929bd-4d64-49bc-9d0d-42c26b8fdc84.RemoveThis@w40g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
> On 25 Nov, 20:04, chateau.murray.takethis....RemoveThis@dsl.pipex.com (The Older
> Gentleman) wrote:
>> Champ <n....RemoveThis@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> > Any idea where I could get such a thing done?

>> Collins Chemical Blacking. Two miles from the Chateau. Google for 'em.

> Does that work on non-ferrous then?

Don't know about the particular firm but there is at least one
technique that works on alloy -- we had the box of the Antarctic
Interferometer done in black before I took it south in '80.
Unfortunately, it reacted with the high-tensile steel allen bolts that
were specified to bolt the panels together, so that they stuck tightly,
and broke free suddenly when much force was applied, spitting out sparks!

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:38 am
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:48:40 +0000 (UTC), A.Clews DeleteThis @DENTURESsussex.ac.uk
wrote:

>Thus spake sweller (sweller@mztech.fsnet.co.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:
>> platypus wrote:
>
>>> > > > [1] is this the correct name for the bit that goes up and down
>>> >
>>> > > Slidey bit = slider
>>> > > Stationary bit = stanchion
>>> >
>>> > That's my understanding.
>>>
>>> I'm slightly gobsmacked by this discussion. Does anyone know what the
>>> bulgy metal thing that the petrol goes in is called?
>
>> Carburettor
>
>Cylinder head.

You're all wrong, it is plainly the tank.

>I reckon Haynes could use our services to write a new series of manuals on
>"Motorcycle Maintenance for Idiots". Now there's a business opportunity.

I'd buy it if you made it even more simple than the above...
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