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Since: Jan 12, 2004
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:50 am
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"Fletch" wrote in message
> > It's gonna' be tough, but you need to pick the bike up and dip the rear
> tire
> > tire in a large pot of oil. While you are holding it, have a friend
start
> > it and put it in first gear so the submerged tire/wheel/sprocket
assembly
> > gets fully coated with oil. Lower bike and wipe off any excess oil.
> >
> I've found through trial and error, while holding the bike in the pot,
> revving the engine to redline in each gear does a more complete job.
And if you do this on your wooden deck you save yourself time
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:05 pm
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"Jamin Kortegard" wrote in message
> on 1/11/04 4:00 PM, No Way wrote:
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> > why messy oil
> > BelRay has wonderful chain sprays that make no mess - no fling off - no
> > wiping required
>
> Sounds great. Why don't you run that for about 20k miles and then tell me
> what's piled up under your countershaft sprocket cover? If it doesn't
fling
> off, it's because it's sticky. If it's that sticky, do you think it might
> collect road debris (gravel, sand, etc) over time? Lemme see, sticky stuff
> grabbing road debris and holding it very close to my chain and the
> o-rings... no thanks. I've seen the mess under the sprocket cover; I'll
> pass.
However a properly oiled chain will attract the same amount of grime.
Actually the new bel-ray chain grease is quite good, not like previous spray
lubes.
Spray it on and give a wipe within 5 min. Chain comes out just like new
factory grease.
No fling and very little dust attracted because it's actually less stickey
that gear oil.
The new bel-ray is more a benifit to offroad biking though.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:02 pm
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On 1/12/04 9:05 AM, "Battleax" wrote:
> However a properly oiled chain will attract the same amount of grime.
That's not been my experience, having done it both ways.
> Actually the new bel-ray chain grease is quite good, not like previous spray
> lubes. Spray it on and give a wipe within 5 min. Chain comes out just like new
> factory grease. No fling and very little dust attracted because it's actually
> less stickey that gear oil.
I've tried a number of "no fling" spray lubes: Bel-Ray, PJ1, Bardahl, Honda
brand. And they all flung. I hope someone has made a better spray lube since
I stopped using them, but I've got no reason to switch back, since the gear
oil method works great for me. My chain is always well lubed, but not oily
or sticky, and there's no sludge layer accumulating around my countershaft
sprocket. Plus I never did like shelling out $10 for a can of of the
spray-on stuff.
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Jamin Kortegard
2002 YZF-R1
2003 WRX >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:02 pm
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"Jamin Kortegard" wrote in message
> On 1/12/04 9:05 AM, "Battleax" wrote:
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> > However a properly oiled chain will attract the same amount of grime.
>
> That's not been my experience, having done it both ways.
>
> > Actually the new bel-ray chain grease is quite good, not like previous
spray
> > lubes. Spray it on and give a wipe within 5 min. Chain comes out just
like new
> > factory grease. No fling and very little dust attracted because it's
actually
> > less stickey that gear oil.
>
> I've tried a number of "no fling" spray lubes: Bel-Ray, PJ1, Bardahl,
Honda
> brand. And they all flung. I hope someone has made a better spray lube
since
> I stopped using them, but I've got no reason to switch back, since the
gear
> oil method works great for me. My chain is always well lubed, but not oily
> or sticky, and there's no sludge layer accumulating around my countershaft
> sprocket. Plus I never did like shelling out $10 for a can of of the
> spray-on stuff.
I use gear oil as well. The thing about the bel-ray is that it is not the
sticky type that leaves strings of grease.
Also the key is to wipe it down after, many spary users don't do this.
I would buy a can for touring, but that's about it.
B >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:47 pm
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Jamin Kortegard wrote in message
> on 1/11/04 4:00 PM, No Way wrote:
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> > why messy oil
> > BelRay has wonderful chain sprays that make no mess - no fling off - no
> > wiping required
>
> Sounds great. Why don't you run that for about 20k miles and then tell me
> what's piled up under your countershaft sprocket cover?
nothing
If it doesn't fling
> off, it's because it's sticky. If it's that sticky, do you think it might
> collect road debris (gravel, sand, etc) over time?
no not at all.
Lemme see, sticky stuff
> grabbing road debris and holding it very close to my chain and the
> o-rings... no thanks. I've seen the mess under the sprocket cover; I'll
> pass.
>
you are passing a great product from BelRay
I used it on my Honda VTR1000 for 2 years.
The chain was perfect when I sold the bike with 2 years of hard riding
I only had to adjust the chain 1 time after about the first month.
> --
> Jamin Kortegard
> 2002 YZF-R1
> 2003 WRX
> >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:16 pm
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herman wrote in message
> what if you gots no stands!
>
use 2 car axle stands
1 under each swing arm
or use your car jack and a piece of wood under the back of the engine
>
> > I had to ride my bike in the rain yesterday, and the manual states that
I
> > should oil the chain if I ride the bike in the rain. The problem is
that
> the
> > manual doesn't really tell me how to do this.
> >
> > Could some one explain to me how to oil the chain using the oil that the
> > manual recommends.
> >
> > J
> >
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> >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:22 pm
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Jamin Kortegard wrote in message
> on 1/11/04 4:00 PM, No Way wrote:
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> > why messy oil
> > BelRay has wonderful chain sprays that make no mess - no fling off - no
> > wiping required
>
> Sounds great. Why don't you run that for about 20k miles and then tell me
> what's piled up under your countershaft sprocket cover?
nothing piles up
If it doesn't fling
> off, it's because it's sticky.
wrong again
If it's that sticky, do you think it might
> collect road debris (gravel, sand, etc) over time?
no wrong again
Lemme see, sticky stuff
> grabbing road debris and holding it very close to my chain and the
> o-rings... no thanks. I've seen the mess under the sprocket cover; I'll
> pass.
>
> --
> Jamin Kortegard
> 2002 YZF-R1
> 2003 WRX
you pass.
you are obviously stuck in the past not the present
time marches on
advancements are made
modern chemistry and science makes new and better things for chains
you can poo poo all day
1000's of people are very happy with the new no-fling BeyRay chain lube.
It requires no old school ideas to use it.
Just spray at the end of a ride. Nothing more required
No cleaning, no wiping NOTHING MORE REQUIRED.
Just spray and ride and enjoy a long life chain experience
sheesh !! >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 3:25 pm
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Jamin Kortegard wrote in message
> On 1/12/04 9:05 AM, "Battleax" wrote:
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> > However a properly oiled chain will attract the same amount of grime.
>
> That's not been my experience, having done it both ways.
>
Did you do it with the new formula BelRay no mess spray lube?
Or some old crap?
> since the gear
> oil method works great for me.
messy gear lube that messes your wheel and tire.
Now there is a novel idea
> Plus I never did like shelling out $10 for a can of of the
> spray-on stuff.
>
you get what you pay for  )
> --
> Jamin Kortegard
> 2002 YZF-R1
> 2003 WRX
> >> Stay informed about: oiling the chain on a Yamaha yzf600 |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:27 am
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> modern chemistry and science makes new and better things for chains
> you can poo poo all day
Not so fast... I've had a number of factory representatives at
motorcycles shows wanting my Busy Little Shop to promote their latest
chain lube wonder stuff... but as I perform my interim test their
product fails every time... namely I go over the the owners bike and
open the oil filler cap and get ready to spray the contents of the chain
lube inside their engine... naturally they yell "stop" citing "it's not
good for an engine and will gum up the works"...
I say... if the manufacture warns you not to spray their chain inside
*their* engine then it has no business on your chain either...
Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it... the extended warranty in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
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Yank and bank your brains loose...
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:51 am
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On 1/13/04 1:47 PM, "No Way" wrote:
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>> Sounds great. Why don't you run that for about 20k miles and then tell me
>> what's piled up under your countershaft sprocket cover?
>
> nothing
You've checked?
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:59 am
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On 1/13/04 2:22 PM, "No Way" wrote:
> you are obviously stuck in the past not the present
> time marches on
> advancements are made
> modern chemistry and science makes new and better things for chains
> you can poo poo all day
> 1000's of people are very happy with the new no-fling BeyRay chain lube.
> It requires no old school ideas to use it.
> Just spray at the end of a ride. Nothing more required
> No cleaning, no wiping NOTHING MORE REQUIRED.
> Just spray and ride and enjoy a long life chain experience
I'll believe you after I hear from a reliable source that they used this
product for 20k miles and upon removing their sprocket cover to replace the
chain did not find a horrible gooey mess of piled up sludge and debris.
As you said in another post, you used the product for 2 years on your VTR,
up until you sold the bike. That means this product was available at least 2
years ago, which is about the same time I tried Bel-Ray "no fling" chain
lube. The salesperson swore up and down the stuff wouldn't fling off the
chain. But guess what happened.
Yep. You know the rest.
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2002 YZF-R1
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:30 pm
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:27:46 -0800, Larry xlax Lovisone
wrote:
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>> modern chemistry and science makes new and better things for chains
>> you can poo poo all day
>
>Not so fast... I've had a number of factory representatives at
>motorcycles shows wanting my Busy Little Shop to promote their latest
>chain lube wonder stuff... but as I perform my interim test their
>product fails every time... namely I go over the the owners bike and
>open the oil filler cap and get ready to spray the contents of the chain
>lube inside their engine... naturally they yell "stop" citing "it's not
>good for an engine and will gum up the works"...
>
>I say... if the manufacture warns you not to spray their chain inside
>*their* engine then it has no business on your chain either...
>
>Larry L
>94 RC45 #2
>Have a wheelie NICE day...
>Lean & Mean it... the extended warranty in every corner of your life...
>If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
>V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
>1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
>Yank and bank your brains loose...
>http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
>http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
>
My bike's manual recommends SAE 90 for the chain. No way that's going in the
engine either.
Ben
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