m27 spec on roadworks

platypus <monotreme.RemoveThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Coming out of Bristol on the M32 in the late '90s was one long contraflow.
> It was possible to filter like a cunt if you didn't mind bumping over a lot
> of 3D paint features.
>

A few years earlier there were major roadworks widening the M5 Avonmouth
bridge. After a string of fatal incidents the authorities increased the
number of cameras to four in each direction. At this point the sheer
stupidity of many road users became clear, with dozens getting instant
totting-up bans by getting caught 4 times within 2 miles. The fatalities
continued, but somewhat reduced.
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The Older Gentleman wrote:

> As a writer to The Times once pointed out, they even put a load of
> cones to blank off a usable lane, calling it an "experimental lane
> closure".
>
> "What," he asked, after sitting in a huge tailback, "did they think
> was likely to happen?"

That happened last year on the M25 near the Watford junction IIRC and
there's a train of thought that the M25/M3 roadworks are experimental
too. Has anyone *ever* seen any work going on there?

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crn DeleteThis @NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> platypus <monotreme DeleteThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Coming out of Bristol on the M32 in the late '90s was one long contraflow.
>> It was possible to filter like a cunt if you didn't mind bumping over a lot
>> of 3D paint features.
>>
>
> A few years earlier there were major roadworks widening the M5 Avonmouth
> bridge. After a string of fatal incidents the authorities increased the
> number of cameras to four in each direction. At this point the sheer
> stupidity of many road users became clear, with dozens getting instant
> totting-up bans by getting caught 4 times within 2 miles. The fatalities
> continued, but somewhat reduced.

That just shows how random events are distributed. Get a couple of
fatalities
in one location, the cameras go up, the accident rate goes back down.
It would go down just the same if a statue of St. Christopher was
erected instead,
or if nothing was done.

Doesn't it count as a single offence if you trigger 4 cameras in 2 miles?


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Eiron.
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On 25 Feb 2008 22:34:51 GMT, crn RemoveThis @NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

>The statistics for fatal incidents in roadworks are scary, including
>the deaths of several roadworkers every year.

Come on then, provide a web reference for deaths of roadworkers
attributed to speeding vehicles.

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CT ("CT" <me.DeleteThis@christrollen.co.uk>) gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>> As a writer to The Times once pointed out, they even put a load of
>> cones to blank off a usable lane, calling it an "experimental lane
>> closure".
>>
>> "What," he asked, after sitting in a huge tailback, "did they think was
>> likely to happen?"

> That happened last year on the M25 near the Watford junction IIRC

It worked beautifully for those going round the M25...

If only they'd take the hint and put a proper M1(N)-M25 junction in,
instead of signing all the M25(W) traffic through the middle of Watford,
they could sort that chaos out properly.
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:42:06 +0000, Eiron <E1ron.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

>crn@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

>> A few years earlier there were major roadworks widening the M5 Avonmouth
>> bridge. After a string of fatal incidents the authorities increased the
>> number of cameras to four in each direction. At this point the sheer
>> stupidity of many road users became clear, with dozens getting instant
>> totting-up bans by getting caught 4 times within 2 miles. The fatalities
>> continued, but somewhat reduced.

>Doesn't it count as a single offence if you trigger 4 cameras in 2 miles?

I believe it does, you know.

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On 26 Feb, 12:05, c....DeleteThis@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
> Eiron <E1....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Doesn't it count as a single offence if you trigger 4 cameras in 2 miles?
>
> No, 4 separate offences so an instant ban.

Depends. There are instances when beaks have accepted a 'single event'
plea. You really don't know much, do you?

Anyway, how about this link between speed and road worker casualties?

Hint: this is something I actually had to research a few years back.
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Pip wrote:
> On 25 Feb 2008 22:34:51 GMT, crn RemoveThis @NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>
>> The statistics for fatal incidents in roadworks are scary, including
>> the deaths of several roadworkers every year.
>
> Come on then, provide a web reference for deaths of roadworkers
> attributed to speeding vehicles.

See there you go. *Conclusive* proof that speed must kill
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/442182.stm
"A south Wales man was among four workers killed while repairing a motorway"

Although
www.highways.gov.uk/news/pressrelease.aspx?pressreleaseid=136814
but it doesn't mention circumstances.

I expect there is something of a Darwin award to be had while working on
roads

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Eiron <E1ron.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Doesn't it count as a single offence if you trigger 4 cameras in 2 miles?

No, 4 separate offences so an instant ban. There were PLENTY of warning
signs. Several drivers went through the 40 limit at 60+ and also collected
convictions for dangerous driving. At least one went through all 4 cameras
at 80+ and served one year of a 2 year sentence plus a very long driving ban.
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On 25 Feb 2008 20:39:11 GMT, crn.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:

>Eiron <E1ron.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> crn.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.netunix.com wrote:
>> > Wicked Uncle Nigel <wun.TakeThisOut@wicked-uncle-nigel.me.uk> wrote:
>> >> Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, mr p
>> >> <srp.TakeThisOut@lycos.co.uk> typed
>> >>> does anyone know how many SPECS cameras there are between J1 of the
>> >>> M27 and the M3 ?
>> >>>
>> >>> I counted two, but i wander if I went past one before that ?
>> >> Dunno, but honestly, speeding in roadworks is a real mug's game. They've
>> >> got loads of cameras and they usually use unmarked cars as well. I swear
>> >> some roadworks must run at a profit.
>> >
>> > s/mug's/total cnut's/
>>
>> Why's that then?
>>
>
>Which of the following will happen to you first ?.
>1) Lose licence.
>2) Kill a roadworker.
>3) Die.
>
>Roadworks are dangerous places, the speed limit is there for good reasons.
>
Speed limits are advisory.
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