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(Msg. 31) Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:01 pm
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On Feb 18, 8:32 pm, "DJ" <mrj....DeleteThis@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
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> I kinda don't blame you for being skepticle regarding my mate's radiator
> dramas, and I must admit, i Didin't get the full details only that he said
> that he was quoted about $1200 for a new radiator...jesus..I don't even
> think it'd cost me anywhere near that for my late model Magna's
> radiator...struth!!
The reason for that would be that even an OE rad for a Magna would be
manufactured locally... and it wouldn't be exactly cheap, either...
otherwise, radiator workshops wouldn't be able to get away with
charging $350 for a radiator overhaul.
For most imported cars, I don't imagine a new OE radiator would leave
much change from a thousand bucks. Factor in the smaller core and
lower manufacturing volume of a bike rad, and it gets easy to see how
a brand-new OE radiator for a bike runs to $1200.
To reiterate, he's got no shortage of *much* cheaper options, cheaper
to the tune of amounting to 10% of that OE replacement cost... and you
shouldn't attach any worries about unreliability or complexity to
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:21 pm
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intact.kneeslider.RemoveThis@start.com.au wrote:
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> To reiterate, he's got no shortage of *much* cheaper options, cheaper
> to the tune of amounting to 10% of that OE replacement cost... and you
> shouldn't attach any worries about unreliability or complexity to
> liquid-cooling.
Mr Rolls (or was it Mr Royce?) used to say that complexity doesn't
matter as long as it's reliable. Thankfully, I don't have to pay R-R
spares prices. Scrounging for second hand parts? Hmmm
Seriously though, it amazes me how people will jump to defend outrageous
spares costs. These things have been made for 100 years, and are mass
produced. Do you guys have shares in motorbike companies? |
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:21 pm
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In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:21:23 +1100
Jordan <jwprincic.DeleteThis@otpusnet.com.au> wrote:
> spares costs. These things have been made for 100 years, and are mass
> produced. Do you guys have shares in motorbike companies?
Don't know all that much about economies of scale or about production
and warehousing costs then eh?
Zebee >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:50 pm
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>> spares costs. These things have been made for 100 years, and are mass
>> produced. Do you guys have shares in motorbike companies?
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> Don't know all that much about economies of scale or about production
> and warehousing costs then eh?
>
> Zebee
Where are the warehouses? >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:11 pm
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On 19/02/2008 7:50 PM, Jordan wrote:
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>>> spares costs. These things have been made for 100 years, and are mass
>>> produced. Do you guys have shares in motorbike companies?
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>> Don't know all that much about economies of scale or about production
>> and warehousing costs then eh?
>>
>> Zebee
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> Where are the warehouses?
I know of a couple in Brookvale and Chatswood.
Oh!
Warehouses.
My Bad.
N/ >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:11 pm
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Ha ! 
Nigel Allen wrote:
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> On 19/02/2008 7:50 PM, Jordan wrote:
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>>>> spares costs. These things have been made for 100 years, and are
>>>> mass produced. Do you guys have shares in motorbike companies?
>>>
>>> Don't know all that much about economies of scale or about production
>>> and warehousing costs then eh?
>>>
>>> Zebee
>>
>> Where are the warehouses?
>
> I know of a couple in Brookvale and Chatswood.
>
> Oh!
>
> Warehouses.
>
> My Bad.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:50 am
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Jordan wrote:
> Zebee wrote
>> Don't know all that much about economies of scale or about production
>> and warehousing costs then eh?
> Where are the warehouses?
Jordan, please stop showing your age and knowledge. Warehousing is about
keeping things on shelves, not about large buildings.
And please leave in the attibutions.
Theo >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:12 pm
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Warehousing is about
> keeping things on shelves, not about large buildings.
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> And please leave in the attibutions.
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> Theo
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You wouldn't call it warehousing, if it fits on a shelf?
Add airfreight to storage costs, in countries where real estate is far
more expensive than here.
I try to remember to leave in attributions, if not at the top then in
the signature. >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:21 am
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Jordan wrote:
>Theo wrote
>> Warehousing is about
>> keeping things on shelves, not about large buildings.
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>> And please leave in the attibutions.
> You wouldn't call it warehousing, if it fits on a shelf?
> Add airfreight to storage costs, in countries where real estate is far
> more expensive than here.
If I run a motorcycle service business, and I keep a dozen spark plugs on
the shelf, along with a few light globes, and a speedo cable or two, that's
called warehousing Jordan. It will cost me money.
> I try to remember to leave in attributions, if not at the top then in
> the signature.
You don't have a bloody clue, do you. See above, or get Zebeee to explain
about clue colonies and musk.
Theo >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:03 am
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Theo Bekkers wrote:
> Jordan wrote:
>> Theo wrote
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>>> Warehousing is about
>>> keeping things on shelves, not about large buildings.
>>>
>>> And please leave in the attibutions.
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>> You wouldn't call it warehousing, if it fits on a shelf?
>> Add airfreight to storage costs, in countries where real estate is far
>> more expensive than here.
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> If I run a motorcycle service business, and I keep a dozen spark plugs on
> the shelf, along with a few light globes, and a speedo cable or two, that's
> called warehousing Jordan. It will cost me money.
>
>> I try to remember to leave in attributions, if not at the top then in
>> the signature.
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> You don't have a bloody clue, do you. See above, or get Zebeee to explain
> about clue colonies and musk.
>
> Theo
>
Sounds more like a shelf company. >> Stay informed about: liquid Vs Aircooled motorcycles |
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