iCAT, not for the simplistic

"iCAT Support" <j.redaedel-no-spam.DeleteThis@icat.com> wrote in message
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 > Very interesting discussion going on in this newsgroup.
 >
 > But old world tuners and newbie CRF450 riders (with 9oz flywheel weights
 > no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
 > system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
 > decide for yourself.

Well, there you have it. No one here knows anything at all. The only
qualified opinion comes from some (I'm guessing) former lawn mower mechanic
that has a lot of time and money invested in the snake oil...err...high
performance ignition wire component. For $200, you can get all your power
karma lined up properly. Remember, it's "hi-tec"!!!!!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"iCAT Support" <j.redaedel-no-spam.TakeThisOut@icat.com> sez:

<snip>
 > Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
 > decide for yourself.

Well, I gave it a try, but I wouldn't describe
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.icatusa.com/tech.htm" target="_blank">http://www.icatusa.com/tech.htm</a> as technical detail. Plus, sites such as
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.icatsportusa.com/" target="_blank">http://www.icatsportusa.com/</a> don't exactly inspired confidence. Sure, there
is
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/product_reviews/article/0,13190,536735,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.transworldmotocross.com/mx/product_reviews/article/0,13190,...735,00.</a>
but without any real world technical data such as dyno runs with HP and/or
torque curves to chew on. Trying it out on "several different test bikes"
doesn't make muster as a technical engineering analysis.

So, you got any meat to go along with the hype there sport? Howz 'bout
sending me one for personal evaluation (I submit my credentials as a BSME,
MSCS having 35+ years on two wheels - snail mail addy available on request)?

Is it really more than a repackaged/renamed Roost Boost or just more
"hi-tec" snake oil? Show me your tec!!!

Good engineerin' to ya,
VLJ
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Hey gang, someone re-invented the Roost Boost!!!!!
 >> Stay informed about: iCAT, not for the simplistic 

On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 07:21:29 -0400 (EDT), "iCAT Support"
<j.redaedel-no-spam.TakeThisOut@icat.com> wrote:

 >no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
 >system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
 >decide for yourself.
I checked out your web page but didn't find any real tech info. Only
the same kind of descriptions that we have seen from other "more
power" salesmen over the years. You could start telling us how the
thing really works. I guess it chances the resonant characteristics of
the coil secondary circuit. What's the impedance of the device from
dc to 1MHz?


Pekka Hänninen,oh7xc
ktm400sx/ktm125exc<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sat, 05 Jun 2004 17:16:36 +0300, Pekka Hänninen
<pekka.hanninen.DeleteThis@nospam.dnainternet.net> wrote:

 >On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 07:21:29 -0400 (EDT), "iCAT Support"
 ><j.redaedel-no-spam.DeleteThis@icat.com> wrote:
 >
  >>no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
  >>system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
  >>decide for yourself.
 >I checked out your web page but didn't find any real tech info. Only
 >the same kind of descriptions that we have seen from other "more
 >power" salesmen over the years.

The kicker is that you must also use Amsoil and Slick 50 to make it
work...

 >Pekka Hänninen

IdaSkeptic<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Theres also the one called the Nology hot wire.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mxsouth.com/nology/hwtoc.htm" target="_blank">http://www.mxsouth.com/nology/hwtoc.htm</a>


DaveH

"Chris Buckley" <cnbuckley.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > Hey gang, someone re-invented the Roost Boost!!!!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"iCAT Support" <j.redaedel-no-spam.RemoveThis@icat.com>
 > Very interesting discussion going on in this newsgroup.
 >
 > But old world tuners and newbie CRF450 riders (with 9oz flywheel weights
 > no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
 > system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
 > decide for yourself.

I tell you what, I am more than qualified to test your device. I have a 1998
H-D Electra Glide Classic (EFI), a 1999 Yamaha TTR 250, a 1997 Buell
Thunderbolt, a 1985 Honda ATC 350X and access to a 1987 H-D Softail Custom,
a 2003 Yamaha YZ250, a 2003 Yamaha YZ250F, a 1986 Honda ATC 250R, and a 2001
Honda TRX400. Send me a unit and I will test it on any, all or any
combination of the vehicles listed. You choose. I have ready access to a
DynoJet dyno, as well. Tell me what the test parameters should be and I'll
follow them along with my own criteria developed from years of dyno-testing
motorcycles. I will post the results of my testing in this newsgroup and on
my website. I may even do a write-up for one of the magazines I freelance
for, if you like and they agree. If you are confident in your device's
ability then you should have no problem with providing me a unit for
testing. I can promise you a fair and unbiased evaluation of your product,
good or bad. If you're serious and want to go forward, reply to me directly
and I'll provide a shipping address for you to use. If you want the product
back after testing, that can be arranged, as well. I'm not looking to get a
freebie, just to provide fair and impartial information to other riders.
What do you say? Later...

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"RADRick" <radrick1NOSPAM RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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 > I tell you what, I am more than qualified to test your device. I have a
1998
 > H-D Electra Glide Classic (EFI), a 1999 Yamaha TTR 250, a 1997 Buell
 > Thunderbolt, a 1985 Honda ATC 350X and access to a 1987 H-D Softail
Custom,
 > a 2003 Yamaha YZ250, a 2003 Yamaha YZ250F, a 1986 Honda ATC 250R, and a
2001
 > Honda TRX400. Send me a unit and I will test it on any, all or any
 > combination of the vehicles listed. You choose. I have ready access to a
 > DynoJet dyno, as well. Tell me what the test parameters should be and I'll
 > follow them along with my own criteria developed from years of
dyno-testing
 > motorcycles. I will post the results of my testing in this newsgroup and
on
 > my website. I may even do a write-up for one of the magazines I freelance
 > for, if you like and they agree. If you are confident in your device's
 > ability then you should have no problem with providing me a unit for
 > testing. I can promise you a fair and unbiased evaluation of your product,
 > good or bad. If you're serious and want to go forward, reply to me
directly
 > and I'll provide a shipping address for you to use. If you want the
product
 > back after testing, that can be arranged, as well. I'm not looking to get
a
 > freebie, just to provide fair and impartial information to other riders.
 > What do you say? Later...

I say you'll never hear from him unless you agree to post his "hi-tec",
previously fabricated results.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 07:21:29 -0400 (EDT), "iCAT Support"
<j.redaedel-no-spam.TakeThisOut@icat.com> wrote:

 >Very interesting discussion going on in this newsgroup.
 >
 >But old world tuners and newbie CRF450 riders (with 9oz flywheel weights
 >no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
 >system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
 >decide for yourself.

Hey, surprise me. List some of the "big name racers" that are already
using your product.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"scrape" <scrape-nothanks DeleteThis @nc.rr.com> wrote in message
 > I say you'll never hear from him unless you agree to post his "hi-tec",
 > previously fabricated results.

You might be right, but that's not how I operate. My tests, my words,
period. Later...

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On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 02:15:17 GMT, "RADRick"
<radrick1NOSPAM.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote:

 >
 >"scrape" <scrape-nothanks.RemoveThis@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
  >> I say you'll never hear from him unless you agree to post his "hi-tec",
  >> previously fabricated results.
 >
 >You might be right, but that's not how I operate. My tests, my words,
 >period. Later...

I didn't think you did. It was more a comment on him than you.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Not for the simplistic?

Careful pal, I believe you're talking to your target demographic. And
pissing them off. There seems to be a high percentage of educated
techno-savvy folks here that listen well in the background, and are not
easily intimidated by self professed experts. If you don't have user
testimony, in forums like this one, you'll get nowhere. And you don't want
this group trashing your product.

If we're not qualified to evaluate your product, then we are certainly not
going to take just anyone's word for it either. And if you are actually
trying to sell this product, then why are you slamming potential buyers?
Does the sales department know you are 'representing' the company in this
forum? I would guess that they might have chosen a more professional
response.

So Jeremy, watch what you say. You may end up having to eat your words.

Sign me - Stock YZ426F rider and willing to keep it that way especially when
mouthy service techs don't impress me.

Tom
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 > On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 07:21:29 -0400 (EDT), "iCAT Support"
 > <j.redaedel-no-spam DeleteThis @icat.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Very interesting discussion going on in this newsgroup.
  > >
  > >But old world tuners and newbie CRF450 riders (with 9oz flywheel weights
  > >no less!) are not the people qualified to evaluate the hi-tec iCAT
  > >system. Do a web search, read the reviews from *qualified* testers and
  > >decide for yourself.

"scrape" <scrapeNOSPAM DeleteThis @nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Hey, surprise me. List some of the "big name racers" that are already
 > using your product.

Sounds a bit defensive to me. I don't know that anyone offered any
'qualified' opinions. Was more like open thoughts tossed around amongst
friends the way I see it.

For all I know this thing could be the greatest thing since ice cream AND
sliced bread. Maybe I'll have to make room for this thing next to my roost
boost, Yamaha boost bottle, the powercharge intake system and vortex power
swirl carb insert.

Think the iCat will work with nitrous?

--
Bruce McCrary
Deep in the Woods of NC
'03 Cannondale E440R
'03 Cannondale X440R<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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