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ODIE

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 2:10 pm
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My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 4:37 pm
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"ODIE" <kodell.TakeThisOut@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message news:<vkcn831tdpb045.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>...
 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
 >
 >
 > ODIE

Regardless of whether this is the case, note that it is not good at all
to run an engine at an extremely low speed, and especially so during the
initial break-in period (which I'd expect to be a lot less than 7500 miles).

When the engine turns too slow, you do not get enough oil to the cylinder
walls or the piston pins. Engines designed to run at very low speeds use
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 7:13 pm
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ODIE <kodell.RemoveThis@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message
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 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so
tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato
Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
 >
 >
 > ODIE
 >

Last week a friend took a 2001 FI Electra Glide Classic for a ride. It was
setting in the shop waiting to have the idle adjusted up. It was idling at
850 Rpm's and the dealer said they put the FI at 1200. This bike had 16,000
some miles on it. He never mentioned anything about its computer doing it on
its own. He said the owner that traded it in did it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 7:41 pm
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"ODIE" <kodell.TakeThisOut@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message
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 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so
tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato
Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?

New one for me.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 8:03 pm
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ODIE wrote:
 >
 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high,

Lucky dog.
Mine is set to run at ground level.

 > I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic

Is he OK?
Stitches involved? :>

 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM.

Well, in all honesty, mine has always idled at around the 1 mark, and
it only has 3500 miles on the clock, as of yet.
(it's still a little newbie!)

Anything less, and I would be worried as I leave a stop at idle, let
the clutch go and add gas to provide momentum.
Even my old Shovel did the same, and it sounded glorious.

"BAKED FUCKIN TATO.. BAKED FUCKIN TATO...." :>
And thinking of it now, that Shovelhead thing I built would suck up all
the air as it passed my '03, and it was basically stock,...motorwise.

My friend's '68 Sportster idles really low, around that 850 mark, but I
thought that was absurdly low.
Of course he had to whap it up to get it moving.


 > He says that the twin cam is so tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?

I haven't. But, time will tell when I reach that amount of mileage.
I'd just as soon keep it at the same idle speed, regardless of
anything.

And if a motor isn't "broke in" well before 7500 miles, well, Hmmmm.

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Chilly Willy

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 9:56 pm
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"ODIE" wrote ...

 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership
mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM
at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it
will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so
tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato
Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?

My 03 FXSTDI idles at ~1200 before she's warmed up. After that she idles
right around 1000. I have less than 7500 miles.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 10:10 pm
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:10:35 -0500, "ODIE" <kodell.DeleteThis@gibsoncounty.net>
wrote:

 >My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 >and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 >idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 >automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
 >that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
 >allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
 >
 >
 >ODIE
 >

Naw, never heard of that. My fuelie has the puta - puta going on.
even before 7500
I was a thinking (headache) that fuel injected should be smooth,
stealer tells me moco had to rough em up cause of complaints of not
sounding like a harley.

go figure

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 11:06 pm
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 13:10:35 -0500, "ODIE" <kodell DeleteThis @gibsoncounty.net>
wrote:

 >My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 >and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 >idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 >automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
 >that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
 >allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?

Specs call for 950-1050 rpm. Never heard the line he fed you, nor have
I noticed other TC88 idling fast when new. As far as "potato-potato"
.... that's not good at any mileage ... if the TC88 isn't idling at
least 800ish, there ain't no oil getting to where the oil needs to go.

Hmmm ... I wonder why he's a former dealership mechanic?


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:22 am
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:10:35 -0500, ODIE wrote:

 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
 >
 >

Let's see, on a cold mornin, it jumps up to about 1500 or so on start,
then eases down to right about 1k, or just a hair above. On a warm day,
it jumps up to 1500 or so on start and drops right down to about 1k. And
this is after 20,000 miles on my '03 FLHTI. Did the exact same thing when
it was brand new too, nothing changed at 7500 miles for me (other than
ordered a new rear tire a few weeks later as I ran it slick at 9,000 miles)

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 3:29 am
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Matthew Lundberg wrote:

 > "ODIE" <kodell.TakeThisOut@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message news:<vkcn831tdpb045.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>...
  > > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
  > > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
  > > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
  > > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so tight
  > > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato Potato
  > > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
  > >
  > >
  > > ODIE
 >
 > Regardless of whether this is the case, note that it is not good at all
 > to run an engine at an extremely low speed, and especially so during the
 > initial break-in period (which I'd expect to be a lot less than 7500 miles).
 >
 > When the engine turns too slow, you do not get enough oil to the cylinder
 > walls or the piston pins. Engines designed to run at very low speeds use
 > different oiling systems than we have.

I had the idle set at 650 rpms on my old shovel for 16 years. I only raised it up some when I
put a big cam in it. I never had any cylinder or bearing problems of any kind because of it. I
also ran the fuck out of it for all of that time as I was a wild and crazy guy. What was supposed
to happen to it?




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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 4:38 am
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"ODIE" <kodell.TakeThisOut@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message
news:vkcn831tdpb045@corp.supernews.com...
 > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership mechanic
 > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM at
 > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it will
 > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so
tight
 > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato
Potato
 > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
 >
 >
 > ODIE

Never heard that one. Does he smoke a lot of funny looking cigarettes? Need
a tire for that Deuce? You will sooner or later, might as well bid on this
one. It's for a good cause:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://eddiekieger.com/cgi-bin/ek3auction.cgi?Miscellaneous&1062038223" target="_blank">http://eddiekieger.com/cgi-bin/ek3auction.cgi?Miscellaneous&1062038223</a>

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2003 7:31 pm
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Carl <softail99fatboy.RemoveThis@mail15.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > ODIE <kodell.RemoveThis@gibsoncounty.net> wrote in message
 > news:vkcn831tdpb045@corp.supernews.com...
  > > My 03 FXSTDI runs very high, I just ran into a former Dealership
mechanic
  > > and he told me that the new twin cams are set to run at about 1200 RPM
at
  > > idle until the computer sees that you have ridden 7500 miles then it
will
  > > automatically drop down to 800 RPM. He says that the twin cam is so
 > tight
  > > that Harley wants to keep the rpm's up until it breaks in. No Potato
 > Potato
  > > allowed until 7500 miles. Anybody ever heard of this?
  > >
  > >
  > > ODIE
  > >
 >
 > Last week a friend took a 2001 FI Electra Glide Classic for a ride. It was
 > setting in the shop waiting to have the idle adjusted up. It was idling at
 > 850 Rpm's and the dealer said they put the FI at 1200. This bike had
16,000
 > some miles on it. He never mentioned anything about its computer doing it
on
 > its own. He said the owner that traded it in did it.
 > --
 >
 >
 > Carl
 > 99 FLSTF

My friend I was telling about looking at the 2001 FI Electra Glide Classic
showed up today at the District 14 poker run,,,,not on the 1998 Yamaha Royal
Star Boulevard but the 2001 Electra Glide Classic. What a surprise he never
mentioned last night at the bar that he was going to buy it he just showed
up on it.

Ok the purpose of this follow up to my post is, the dealer said they needed
to idle the bike up. And at cold temp it idles at 1200 Rpm's, at hot running
it is at 1 grand.

Now every one belly up while I'm buying, I just got home from the poker run
and I've had my share already so lets get caught up you guys and gals! I
don't want to be the only one with a buzz on!
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