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(Msg. 16) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 2:24 am
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John Tserkezis wrote:
> CrazyCam wrote:
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>> It may well be bundled in with bikes in the minds of the cops, but I'd
>> bet thruppence that the folk writing the rules didn't even think of
>> unicycles, and, consequently, it isn't.
>
> Ah, but it is.
> In the Australian Road Rules, in part, under "dictionary" (where the
> definitions are) Page 393:
> <http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/pts1-21.pdf>
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> <quote>
> "bicycle" means a vehicle with 1 or more wheels that is built to be
> propelled by human power through a belt, chain or gears (whether or not
> it has an auxiliary motor), and:
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> (a) includes a pedicab, penny-farthing, scooter, tricycle and unicycle;
> but
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> (b) does not include a wheelchair, wheeled recreational device, wheeled
> toy, or any vehicle with an auxiliary motor capable of generating a
> power output over 200 watts (whether or not the motor is operating).
> </quote>
>
>> The folk that write rules ain't exactly smart, otherwise they'd have
>> real jobs. 
>
> Well, yes, but that's an entirely different story. 
OK, I owe you thruppence. <sigh>
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:23 am
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Goaty wrote:
> Toosmoky wrote:
> > Matt Palmer wrote:
> >> Tim Moran is of the opinion:
> >>> j... DeleteThis @techniciansyndrome.org.invalid says...
> >>>> "bicycle" means a vehicle with 1 or more wheels that is built to be
> >>>> propelled by human power through a belt, chain or gears (whether or
> >>>> not it has an auxiliary motor), and:
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> >>> So a shaft drive bicycle isn't really a bicycle then.
>
> >> No, because you can't wheelie it.
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> > What about countersteering?
>
> This one had excellent countersteering!http://home.iprimus.com.au/martyh/wintersun/imagepages/image3.htm
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> Turn bars left, bike goes right ... turn bars right, bike goes left!
>
> Remember that one BTH?
It was horrible! I even tried riding it with my arms crossed (left
hand on right bar, and vice versa) but it still didn't work!
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:12 am
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G-S wrote:
> Peter Cremasco wrote:
>> Tim Moran wrote:
>>> In article <47a182ca$0$22095$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> jt DeleteThis @techniciansyndrome.org.invalid says...
>>>> "bicycle" means a vehicle with 1 or more wheels that is built to be
>>>> propelled by human power through a belt, chain or gears (whether or
>>>> not it has an auxiliary motor), and:
>>>>
>>> So a shaft drive bicycle isn't really a bicycle then.
>>
>> Shaft would qualify as being driven by gears.
>
> Not all push bike shaft drive bikes have motorcycle style shaft drives
> with a centre hub gear system.. some have dual shafts from the crank
> directly to the sides of the rear hub.
I'm trying to envisage this, and am having lots of trouble. Any chances
of a url to a schematic or pic, to help enlighten me? >> Stay informed about: No helmet legal for Unicycle rider? |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:12 am
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Toosmoky wrote:
> Matt Palmer wrote:
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>> Tim Moran is of the opinion:
>>
>>> In article <47a182ca$0$22095$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>> jt.TakeThisOut@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid says...
>>>
>>>> "bicycle" means a vehicle with 1 or more wheels that is built to be
>>>> propelled by human power through a belt, chain or gears (whether or
>>>> not it has an auxiliary motor), and:
>>>>
>>> So a shaft drive bicycle isn't really a bicycle then.
>>
>>
>> No, because you can't wheelie it.
>
>
> What about countersteering?
This one had excellent countersteering!
http://home.iprimus.com.au/martyh/wintersun/imagepages/image3.htm
Turn bars left, bike goes right ... turn bars right, bike goes left!
Remember that one BTH?
Cheers
Goaty
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:56 am
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"John Tserkezis" <jt.TakeThisOut@techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
> "bicycle" means a vehicle with 1 or more wheels that is built to be
> propelled by human power through a belt, chain or gears (whether or not it
> has an auxiliary motor), and:
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> (a) includes a pedicab, penny-farthing, scooter, tricycle and unicycle;
> but
>
So it's OK if it has no belt chain or gears then (like pretty-much every
unicycle!!)
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:56 am
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"John Tserkezis" <jt DeleteThis @techniciansyndrome.org.invalid> wrote:
> Was that speed right? 200 and something? You'd be hard pressed to find a
> bike computer capable of that.
>
My Sigma-wassisname went past 160 towing the fridge-trailer.
I never went for much more than that but I think it claimed it could do 300.
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:57 am
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Knobdoodle wrote:
> My Sigma-wassisname went past 160 towing the fridge-trailer.
> I never went for much more than that but I think it claimed it could do 300.
I had been meaning to run some tests there. I actually changed to a sigma
on my recumbent. I had to, because of the very small wheel diameter, it would
need many rotations to register the same distance.
Normal magnetic reed switches topped off about about 70Km/h, and the only
specs I could find on the sigma was the screen reading maximum, not the real
test specs.
Anecdotally, they worked quite higher, but not specified on a small wheel
diameter as in my case.
Ironically, I hadn't had an opportunity to test this one over 70Km/h since
installing it, but I'll get around to it one day.
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 4:25 pm
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John Tserkezis wrote:
> Knobdoodle wrote:
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>> My Sigma-wassisname went past 160 towing the fridge-trailer.
>> I never went for much more than that but I think it claimed it could
>> do 300.
>
> I had been meaning to run some tests there. I actually changed to a
> sigma on my recumbent. I had to, because of the very small wheel
> diameter, it would need many rotations to register the same distance.
>
> Normal magnetic reed switches topped off about about 70Km/h, and the
> only specs I could find on the sigma was the screen reading maximum, not
> the real test specs.
> Anecdotally, they worked quite higher, but not specified on a small
> wheel diameter as in my case.
>
> Ironically, I hadn't had an opportunity to test this one over 70Km/h
> since installing it, but I'll get around to it one day.
I know about this problem.
The first pushie trip computer I fitted to the Z50 would go berserk at
about 74 kph.
Because of the wee wheels, it was getting too many "ticks" to count.
Swapping to the Sigma unit cured the problem. I have only tested the
Sigma (on the Z50) upto about 92 or 94....yes, it was down hill with a
following wind.
regards,
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:00 am
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:48 pm
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"CrazyCam" <crazycam DeleteThis @upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Today, in Hornsby, I saw a bloke riding along on a unicycle.
>
> I have to admit to being very impressed.
>
> Anyhow, I noticed he didn't have a helmet on, but, when I thought about
> it, I expect that it is perfectly legal.
>
> regards,
> CrazyCam
That'd be my old house mate Ian, he must've lost his licence again.
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:09 am
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you know, I have been asking my self that question for a while, even yelled
at the local outlaw unicycle gang coz they recon they didn't have to wear
them.
"CrazyCam" <crazycam.DeleteThis@upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Today, in Hornsby, I saw a bloke riding along on a unicycle.
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> I have to admit to being very impressed.
>
> Anyhow, I noticed he didn't have a helmet on, but, when I thought about
> it, I expect that it is perfectly legal.
>
> regards,
> CrazyCam >> Stay informed about: No helmet legal for Unicycle rider? |
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