headset for cellphone and GPS

"Mark Olson" <olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote in message
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> If I knew, I wouldn't tell you. I think it should be illegal to
> use a phone while riding (or driving). What is it about a phone
> conversation that makes it more important than paying attention
> to what is going on around you?

I have to say that I'm really torn on this issue.
While I agree with the above sentiment, I have been
at least thinking real hard about a Bluetooth (or equiv.(
headset - not for the cell, but just to get a little music into
the helmet for those longer trips (which, if I'm going east
from here - I'm in CO - will pretty much always
involve some long, dull stretches and I could use
something just in the background to keep me from
that sort of hypnotized state you get from looking at
and endless straight road ahead of you). I have no idea
if they're the best or not, but the Nolan helmets with the
N-Com integrated system have caught my eye.

Actually, what's kept me from ordering the thing so far
is the worry that I WILL be tempted to plug the damned
cell phone into it....sigh...

Bob M.
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To the OP.
Here is everything you need to do what you want to do.

http://www.chatterboxusa.com/
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"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote

> As with alcohol, learn your limits and respect them. Olson's limits aren't
> my limits.

"Why?" asked Mike, as they peeled him loose from the side of the cage to
which he'd laminated himself.

(Hint: the only real way to "learn your limits" in respect to riding while
distracted is to keep on doing it until you crash, and then, should you
survive, resolve to no longer use your cellphone while riding.)

You can either ride your bike or you can talk on your cellphone; but you
can't do both and do either one well.
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peter wrote:
> What is the best type of headset (wired or bluetooth, switch operated or
> voice command) that allows motorcyclist to use cellphone and hear the GPS
> while wearing full face helmet?
> If there is a helmet with integrated headset, that would be most convenient.
>
>

Looking to cleanse the gene pool a bit?
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I have been riding with headphones for years, currently the
aforementioned skull candy. (For me the noise suppression isn't quite
as good as headphones with foam inserts - but they're a bit harder to
put in, so I'm using the skull candy for now).

I don't feel it has ever jeopardized my safety. I really enjoy loading
up my mp3 player with a couple weeks' worth of All Things Considered for
longer trips. When the ride gets interesting, I simply switch if off,
but the headphones still work as earplugs.

I'm not so sure you would ever be tempted to talk on a cellphone on a
bike. For one thing, nobody would want to talk to you because it's way
too noisy. Personally I haven't tried it, but then I don't even have a
cellphone.
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peter wrote:
> What is the best type of headset (wired or bluetooth, switch operated or
> voice command) that allows motorcyclist to use cellphone and hear the GPS
> while wearing full face helmet?
> If there is a helmet with integrated headset, that would be most convenient.
>
>

Nolan makes the Ncom series of helmets that are designed to add a
Bluetooth unit to.

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"P. Roehling" <nowayjose RemoveThis @uh-uh.edu> wrote in message
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>
> "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> As with alcohol, learn your limits and respect them. Olson's limits
>> aren't my limits.
>
> "Why?" asked Mike, as they peeled him loose from the side of the cage to
> which he'd laminated himself.
>
> (Hint: the only real way to "learn your limits" in respect to riding while
> distracted is to keep on doing it until you crash, and then, should you
> survive, resolve to no longer use your cellphone while riding.)
>
> You can either ride your bike or you can talk on your cellphone; but you
> can't do both and do either one well.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

I'm not an evangelist for cellphone usage rights. Pete's right. Motorist and
rider skills are marginal at best without the distraction. Full legal
disclaimer asserted here: Y'all ain't me, and I ain't you.
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"MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote

> I'm not an evangelist for cellphone usage rights. Pete's right. Motorist
> and rider skills are marginal at best without the distraction. Full legal
> disclaimer asserted here: Y'all ain't me, and I ain't you.

In the same light, I'm not an evangelist for the Nanny State; and it's
certainly not my job to tell you that you shouldn't be allowed to ride and
carry on a conversation at the same time if you think you can do so safely.

Presumably you know your own capabilities better than anyone else does, but
I wouldn't advise anyone to do anything that distracts from their
concentration while they're riding, and knowing my own limits as I do, I
won't do so myself.
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MikeWhy wrote:
> "P. Roehling" <nowayjose.DeleteThis@uh-uh.edu> wrote in message
> news:47b7acfa$0$16690$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>
>> "MikeWhy" <boat042-nospam.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>>> As with alcohol, learn your limits and respect them. Olson's
>>> limits
>>> aren't my limits.
>>
>> "Why?" asked Mike, as they peeled him loose from the side of the
>> cage to which he'd laminated himself.
>>
>> (Hint: the only real way to "learn your limits" in respect to
>> riding
>> while distracted is to keep on doing it until you crash, and then,
>> should you survive, resolve to no longer use your cellphone while
>> riding.)
>>
>> You can either ride your bike or you can talk on your cellphone;
>> but
>> you can't do both and do either one well.
>
> If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
>
> I'm not an evangelist for cellphone usage rights. Pete's right.
> Motorist and rider skills are marginal at best without the
> distraction. Full legal disclaimer asserted here: Y'all ain't me,
> and
> I ain't you.

Further, statistically it doesn't seem to matter if you're holding the
phone to your ear or using a handsfree in a car. And anything that's
dangerous for someone driving a car to do is more so for someone
riding a motorcycle.



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J. Clarke wrote:

> Further, statistically it doesn't seem to matter if you're holding the
> phone to your ear or using a handsfree in a car. And anything that's
> dangerous for someone driving a car to do is more so for someone
> riding a motorcycle.

Is it dangerous to talk with a passenger (either in a cage or on a
bike)? If not, why would it be more dangerous to talk with someone on a
telephone headset?

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"St. John Smythe" <sinjen DeleteThis @n4vu.com> wrote in message
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> Is it dangerous to talk with a passenger (either in a cage or on a
> bike)? If not, why would it be more dangerous to talk with someone on a
> telephone headset?
>

Exactly my sentiments. I have a speaker mounted under my dashboard of my car
and a microphone on the ceiling. I talk while driving quite a bit. I'm quite
aware of everything going on around me and don't ever look at a passenger as
I might during a conversation with them.
But while on the bike, the phone is off. I check it when I stop along the
ride, but the bike represents some kind of freedom for me that I can't get
in a car.
Ride safe.
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Bob Mann wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:40:32 -0500, "J. Clarke"
> <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Further, statistically it doesn't seem to matter if you're holding
>> the phone to your ear or using a handsfree in a car. And anything
>> that's dangerous for someone driving a car to do is more so for
>> someone riding a motorcycle.
>
> I've also seen stats that say the same for talking with a passenger.

You've seen stats, or you've seen somebody express their opinion?

There's a reason that airliners are required to have two people in the
front seat and it's not just in case one of them gets sick. A second
pair of eyes _in_ _the_ _vehicle_ improves the chances of spotting a
problem in time to avoid it. A person on the other end of a cell
phone is a pure distraction.
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"St. John Smythe" <sinjen DeleteThis @n4vu.com> wrote

>> Further, statistically it doesn't seem to matter if you're holding the
>> phone to your ear or using a handsfree in a car. And anything that's
>> dangerous for someone driving a car to do is more so for someone
>> riding a motorcycle.
>
> Is it dangerous to talk with a passenger (either in a cage or on a
> bike)?

Is it a distraction that takes some of your attention off of what you're
supposed to be concentrating on, I.E. driving or riding?

Yes. Beyond a shadow of a doubt.

> If not, why would it be more dangerous to talk with someone on a
> telephone headset?

A psychologist friend of mine says it takes more neurons to carry on a phone
conversation than it does to speak face to face, and there are (at least)
two reasons for this: (1) On the phone we don't pick up the little facial,
vocal, and body-language cues that normally suppliment our understanding of
vocal communications, so we tend to concentrate harder than usual on our
listening, which leads us to the second part of the problem. (2) The lowered
level of information transfer during vocal-only communications tend to make
most people mentally model the facial expressions of the person they're
speaking to, and that amount of processing pre-empts a lot of the attention
we should be devoting to watching traffic and anticipating upcoming
problems.

In short, we can all do two things at once; such as carrying on a
conversation and riding. But the conversation part takes mental precedence
over the riding part, which we largely deal with as an automatic sub-routine
while we're speaking.

That means the primary "planning" part of your brain is off-line while
you're talking on your cell phone, and alas, motorcycle riding requires
*all* of your attention *all* of the time if you're going to do it in
reasonable safety.
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