Any future in air-cooled?

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> On Feb 28, 1:39�pm, Beryl <flyingterra... DeleteThis @chillybits.org> wrote:
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>>. wrote:
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>>>I think you're confusing the storm drain system with the sewer system.
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>>Malibu is confused too.
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> Malibu Creek is an unchannelized storm drain. It would look terrible
> if it was concrete-lined, wouldn't it>

It would. Creeks should be left as creeks.

>>Tapia wastewater treatment plant, adjacent to
>>public park in malibu canyon, discharges overload into malibu creek.
>>That flows down to lagoon at the beach. A bulldozer breaches the sand
>>berm around the lagoon when it overfills. Neat system...
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>
> So the lagoon is a natural biological trickling filter where I can

Seems sort of late in the chain for a trickling filter. The lagoon is
the end of the line.

> watch ducks and shore birds. While the birds are swimming and diving
> in it, bacteria is hppily digesting whatever nutrients (if any) are
> still in the water.

The birds are happy, bacteria is happy.

> Tapia is prohibited from discharging what is supposed to be fully
> treated, drinking-water pure effluent to the ocean from May to
> November.

Words like "prohibited" and "supposed" are flexible in Malibu. The city
has no sewage system.

> Tapia engineers wanted to construct more ponds upstream to be natural
> trickling filters.
>
> http://malibusurfsidenews.com/blog/2007_08_01_archive.html

Wow! The shark from Malibu has an agent.

On Feb 28, 8:36�pm, Beryl <flyingterra....DeleteThis@chillybits.org> wrote:
> . wrote:

> > Malibu Creek is an unchannelized storm drain. It would look terrible
> > if it was concrete-lined, wouldn't it>

But Hollywood directors would like it to be paved so they can film car
chases.
>
> It would. Creeks should be left as creeks.

Unfortunately, the canyons are filling up with yuppies. And yuppie
sewage has to go somewhere, even if it goes into septic tanks, there
is still a leach line for the water to comes off the top of a full
cesspool.

A docent at Peter Strauss Ranch is a sort of "gentleman farmer" who
raises fancy chickens for a hobby. He lives off Encinal Canyon and he
told me that the city of Malibu had an "anti-mansionifaction"
ordinance to prevent the hills visible from the ocean into looking
like Italy or the French Riviera with mansions built right next to
each other.

As I was listening to him pointing out every poison oak bush to the
tour group, I could hear the Harleys cruising through Cornell, and I
thought, "If I owned a million dollar house up here, I would do
anything to close Mulholland Highway to non-residents, or I would find
a way to shut down The Rock Store.

> > So the lagoon is a natural biological trickling filter where I can
>
> Seems sort of late in the chain for a trickling filter. The lagoon is
> the end of the line.

Well, the whole ocean is a trickling filter for that matter. A
trickling filter grows anaerobic bacteria on a medium of some sort.
Sewage treatment plants pump water past plastic pellets and your home
aquarium sucks water through colored gravel.
>
> > watch ducks and shore birds. While the birds are swimming and diving
> > in it, bacteria is hppily digesting whatever nutrients (if any) are
> > still in the water.
>
> The birds are happy, bacteria is happy.

Fresh water is not too bad for trickling and digesting whatever solids
are still in the water, as long as the pH is on the acidic side. The
digestion process results in nitrates added to the water, and nitrates
fertilize the algae, leading to a toxic algal bloom called "red tide".

Also, farmers use nitrate fertilizer on their crops and that stuff
washes down the Santa Clara river into the ocean at Oxnard and Point
Mugu.

I was walking along the cobblestone "beach" north of the Ventura river
a few years ago and found a dead Elephant Seal, two dead Steller's Sea
Lions and two dead Dolphins.

The ocean smelled like a giant kitty litter box that hadn't been
cleaned for a month.

The problem was Domoic acid poisoning that attacks the central nervous
system of birds and sea mammals

Seawater itself has an alkaline pH and excess materials cause the
formation of nitrites which are directly deadly to fish, but in a
warmer environment and lots of algae fertilized by nitrates, certain
plankton thrive and the anchovies eat the plankton and build up
poisons and the birds and sea mammals eat the anchovies and die.

A dead Elephant Seal makes a horrible mess on the beach.

> Words like "prohibited" and "supposed" are flexible in Malibu. The city
> has no sewage system.

With fires, floods, earthquakes, and mudslides, Malibu is a poor place
for modern humans to inhabit, unless they are Chumash Indians living
on the beach and enjoying the abundance of the sea and the hills. They
called it "Maliwu", in reference to the sound of the pounding surf...