first fully faired Jap bike ?

"Johno" <varcs45.TakeThisOut@msn.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 02:34:27 GMT, "Knobdoodle"
> <knobdoodle.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>First one I can think of is Honda's 1959 Isle of Man TT racer.
>>http://www.motoesporte.com.br/historia%20moto/honda_team.jpg
>>http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/ian.huntly/TTH125.jpg
>
> I know the Moto Guzzi v8 was a full faired[1] bike - circa 1955
>
But that wasn't Jap Johno.
(and no sneaking in any J.A.P. engined, Dustbin-fairinged racers either!!)
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Knobdoodle wrote:
>
> First one on the market here would've been a toss-up between the CB1100RC
> and the VT250F about 1982.

The VT250F was a bikini faired bike, the VT250FII was the fully faired
version. The earliest derivative of which was the Red/Blue version.

I'm still not sure I'd call the CB1100RC a real production bike... it
was pretty much a limited edition (yes I know there were arguments about
that at the time too).

The Yammy XJ650 Turbo is the earliest I could think of too...


G-S
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"G-S" <geoff DeleteThis @castbus.com.au> wrote in message
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> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>
>> First one on the market here would've been a toss-up between the CB1100RC
>> and the VT250F about 1982.
>
> The VT250F was a bikini faired bike, the VT250FII was the fully faired
> version. The earliest derivative of which was the Red/Blue version.
>
> I'm still not sure I'd call the CB1100RC a real production bike... it was
> pretty much a limited edition (yes I know there were arguments about that
> at the time too).
>
> The Yammy XJ650 Turbo is the earliest I could think of too...
>
>
> G-S
>


1983 Yamaha RZV500R?

Boxer
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Boxer wrote:
> "G-S" <geoff DeleteThis @castbus.com.au> wrote in message
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>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>> First one on the market here would've been a toss-up between the CB1100RC
>>> and the VT250F about 1982.
>> The VT250F was a bikini faired bike, the VT250FII was the fully faired
>> version. The earliest derivative of which was the Red/Blue version.
>>
>> I'm still not sure I'd call the CB1100RC a real production bike... it was
>> pretty much a limited edition (yes I know there were arguments about that
>> at the time too).
>>
>> The Yammy XJ650 Turbo is the earliest I could think of too...
>>
>>
>> G-S
>>
>
>
> 1983 Yamaha RZV500R?
>
> Boxer
>
>

The XJ650 Turbo was 1982 I thought.


G-S
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G-S wrote:
> Boxer wrote:
>> "G-S" <geoff.RemoveThis@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:13qafp3dav1bq63@corp.supernews.com...
>>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>>> First one on the market here would've been a toss-up between the
>>>> CB1100RC and the VT250F about 1982.
>>> The VT250F was a bikini faired bike, the VT250FII was the fully
>>> faired version. The earliest derivative of which was the Red/Blue
>>> version.
>>>
>>> I'm still not sure I'd call the CB1100RC a real production bike... it
>>> was pretty much a limited edition (yes I know there were arguments
>>> about that at the time too).
>>>
>>> The Yammy XJ650 Turbo is the earliest I could think of too...
>>>
>>>
>>> G-S
>>>
>>
>>
>> 1983 Yamaha RZV500R?
>>
>> Boxer
>>
>
> The XJ650 Turbo was 1982 I thought.
>
>
> G-S
so, until someone contradicts us the XJ650 gets the crown ?
PP.
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Knobdoodle wrote:
> "poncie ponce" <poncie.ponce.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> what was the KR250 like ? up 2 a year or so ago there was one being
>> ridden around where i live. Cant remember them being very numerous even
>> when new.
>>
> From memory they were pretty popular little sporties at the time.
> Probably behind the RZ250 but more popular than the RG250 or the unloved MVX
> Honda.
> Bugger-all smokers from 1984 survive today so I'd doubt you'd see many now.


...given it's still harsh week, you know what you can do Clem!

My '83 model RZ250 gets regular use.

regards,
CrazyCam
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CrazyCam wrote:
> Knobdoodle wrote:
>> "poncie ponce" <poncie.ponce.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> what was the KR250 like ? up 2 a year or so ago there was one
>>> being ridden around where i live. Cant remember them being very
>>> numerous even when new.
>>>
>> From memory they were pretty popular little sporties at the time.
>> Probably behind the RZ250 but more popular than the RG250 or the
>> unloved MVX Honda.
>> Bugger-all smokers from 1984 survive today so I'd doubt you'd see many
>> now.
>
>
> ..given it's still harsh week, you know what you can do Clem!
>
> My '83 model RZ250 gets regular use.

...and, my bike was originally sold with a full fairing, which is
believed to have been fitted by some importer in SA.

regards,
CrazyCam
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"CrazyCam" <crazycam.TakeThisOut@upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
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> Knobdoodle wrote:
>> Bugger-all smokers from 1984 survive today so I'd doubt you'd see many
>> now.
>
>
> ..given it's still harsh week, you know what you can do Clem!
>
> My '83 model RZ250 gets regular use.
>
Hmm...
[Struggle to think how to phrase "but I meant NORMAL people, Cam" so as to
not cause offence....]
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Clem
PS; I'd love one of the last-model RZ350s in my shed!
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Knobdoodle wrote:
> "CrazyCam" <crazycam.RemoveThis@upturnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:47a56968$0$12542$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>> Bugger-all smokers from 1984 survive today so I'd doubt you'd see many
>>> now.
>>
>> ..given it's still harsh week, you know what you can do Clem!
>>
>> My '83 model RZ250 gets regular use.
>>
> Hmm...
> [Struggle to think how to phrase "but I meant NORMAL people, Cam" so as to
> not cause offence....]

Oh, OK then.

> PS; I'd love one of the last-model RZ350s in my shed!

BTW, my 250 with chambers got clutch slip on the standard clutch parts
and had to get TZ clutch bits installed.

I hate to think how you get the power of the 350 to the road.

regards,
CrazyCam
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Knobdoodle wrote:

> http://www.hoc.org.uk/gallery/bikes/CX500_Turbo.jpg
>
> Errk; what a note on which to sign off!

With "OBRUT" on the front so you could tell what it was in your mirrors
after you'd passed it.

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Toosmoky
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Knobdoodle wrote:

> The CB900F2s date from 1979 so depending on your classification of
> "full-fairing" ... yeah; they'd be first.
> I'd argue that a FF should completely encircle under the engine though.

I don't remember a faired version of the Boldor around at that time. I
think it came about '82. Seems to me they all pretty much hit the market
at the same time...

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Toosmoky
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In article <7hepj.10548$421.6988@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> PS; I'd love one of the last-model RZ350s in my shed!

I think JL's still trying-not-very-hard to sell the KR1S if you consider
going green...

big

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"poncie ponce" <poncie.ponce.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> G-S wrote:
>> Boxer wrote:
>>> "G-S" <geoff.TakeThisOut@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:13qafp3dav1bq63@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> Knobdoodle wrote:
>>>>> First one on the market here would've been a toss-up between the
>>>>> CB1100RC and the VT250F about 1982.
>>>> The VT250F was a bikini faired bike, the VT250FII was the fully faired
>>>> version. The earliest derivative of which was the Red/Blue version.
>>>>
>>>> I'm still not sure I'd call the CB1100RC a real production bike... it
>>>> was pretty much a limited edition (yes I know there were arguments
>>>> about that at the time too).
>>>>
>>>> The Yammy XJ650 Turbo is the earliest I could think of too...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> G-S
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1983 Yamaha RZV500R?
>>>
>>> Boxer
>>>
>>
>> The XJ650 Turbo was 1982 I thought.
>>
>>
>> G-S
> so, until someone contradicts us the XJ650 gets the crown ?
> PP.

What about the Honda gold wing 1978
http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_gl_1000_k_2_gold_wing_1978.php

Smiley
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