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"Vaughn" <vbrandt RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I like the idea of being able to declare a significant other/partner
> as more than a casual girlfriend. To me, that is a good step to stay
> in for a few years while you live together, try sharing a household,
> and maybe have a kid (surprise) together. Happens all the time.
>

I'd be happy if it happened much less often, both the surprises and the
planned ones.

Something about unlimited growth being the philosophy of the cancer cell...
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> >Is it that much worse than getting married four times?
>>
>>> I don't think getting married 4 times means much either.....
>
>>So it wouldn't make much difference if they were married.
>
> I am ambivalent. For starters, I do not considering hooking up to have
> kids the same as getting married. Also, while I understand the concept of
> getting married, divorced, and remarried understandable, I would think the
> exercise itself would discourage doing it over and over, like 4 times.
>
> If there were no kids involved, I suppose getting married 4 times would be
> like not getting married at all and just "hooking up" "officially" for
> periods of time, but does that MEAN anything? Doesn't sound like it.
>
>
>>I happen to
>>have been married to the same wife for 34 years now, but I don't
>>expect all my friends to do the same. If I did I would have very few
>>friends.
>
> I don't judge friends by the number of times they've been married
> either...but I don't know any that have been married 4 times.


I'll never get married again, even if marriage #1 fails.
If I only knew beforehand what I know now!


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"Andrew" <yogig.no.spamm.spam.no._.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'll never get married again, even if marriage #1 fails.
> If I only knew beforehand what I know now!
>

Heh, but you don't know what you don't know.
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On Feb 11, 9:19 am, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Is it that much worse than getting married four times?
>
> >> I don't think getting married 4 times means much either.....
> >So it wouldn't make much difference if they were married.
>
> I am ambivalent. For starters, I do not considering hooking up to have
> kids the same as getting married. Also, while I understand the concept
> of getting married, divorced, and remarried understandable, I would
> think the exercise itself would discourage doing it over and over,
> like 4 times.
>
> If there were no kids involved, I suppose getting married 4 times
> would be like not getting married at all and just "hooking up"
> "officially" for periods of time, but does that MEAN anything? Doesn't
> sound like it.
>
> >I happen to
> >have been married to the same wife for 34 years now, but I don't
> >expect all my friends to do the same.  If I did I would have very few
> >friends.
>
> I don't judge friends by the number of times they've been married
> either...but I don't know any that have been married 4 times.

I don't know many 4 timers but I know a lot of 3 timers. I think that
is a good share of the reason many young people today start out just
living together, to see if it works before making it official. Funny
thing is I have known a few couples that lived together for years
before getting married that split up shortly after they got married.
Sort of like, "Your mine now so I don't have to do those extra things
to keep you happy." Or, "Your mine now so don't let me catch you even
looking at anyone else."

Bruce
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On Feb 11, 8:01 pm, Scout <d... RemoveThis @do.it> wrote:
> In article <13r1rfiant4f... RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> actinouran... RemoveThis @earthlink.net says...
>
> > Scout <d... RemoveThis @do.it> wrote:
>
> > > I told a story and enjoyed doing so.
>
> > > You made fun of it, and probably also enjoyed doing so.
>
> > I didn't make fun of it - I am totally shocked at how spoiled the
> > kid seems to be (granted, spoiled is a relative term). I'm all for
> > getting kids started on bikes as early as possible, but you bought him
> > two show bikes? I could see myself buying my kid a basic starter bike,
> > and a track/race bike if he ever got that serious. But two race replicas
> > with the bling is something he would have to save up for and buy on his own.
> > I believe there is something to be learned from saving up and working towards
> > such things on your own. I know a few kids who have had everything handed
> > to them like that. They don't have much appreciation for what it takes
> > to earn such toys on their own.
>
> > > I only wrote the story for other bikers to enjoy. If you didn't enjoy
> > > it, then feel free to move on. I'm not stopping you.
>
> > I'll admit to being a bit jealous - my parents would never even let me
> > have a bike while I was under their roof - even one that I would buy with
> > my own money. But I really think you are over indulging him. He sounds
> > like he is old enough to take care of himself and earn his own toys.
>
> > - Kurt
>
> I hear what you are saying Kurt, but the kid isn't really spoilt.
>
> He's had to save up to pay for his house, and when you're talking that
> sort of money, a motorcycle is a toy that most young families just can't
> afford.
>
> Bikes have always been the things that Stevie and I get to share as a
> father-son thing, and just 'coz his own budget won't run to paying for
> such a toy, I don't want to NOT be able to go riding with him.
>
> Neither of the bikes that I have mentioned were race replicas. They
> are gentle beasts, but once again, everything is relative. One of MY
> bikes managed 2nd place in the NZ Superbike Championship (when I lent it
> to someone who could do it justice). So that is the sort of stuff we
> got used to.


Relative to the bikes he'd owned before? I've owned all of those
bikes, none of them is gentle.

Maybe we're all just jealous. My dad bought me a rusty Civic and told
me to join the service if I wanted more money. I had the sense to
realize a free Civic is better than nothing at all.

Greg.
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Scout <dont.DeleteThis@do.it> wrote:
>
> I told a story and enjoyed doing so.
>
> You made fun of it, and probably also enjoyed doing so.

I didn't make fun of it - I am totally shocked at how spoiled the
kid seems to be (granted, spoiled is a relative term). I'm all for
getting kids started on bikes as early as possible, but you bought him
two show bikes? I could see myself buying my kid a basic starter bike,
and a track/race bike if he ever got that serious. But two race replicas
with the bling is something he would have to save up for and buy on his own.
I believe there is something to be learned from saving up and working towards
such things on your own. I know a few kids who have had everything handed
to them like that. They don't have much appreciation for what it takes
to earn such toys on their own.

> I only wrote the story for other bikers to enjoy. If you didn't enjoy
> it, then feel free to move on. I'm not stopping you.

I'll admit to being a bit jealous - my parents would never even let me
have a bike while I was under their roof - even one that I would buy with
my own money. But I really think you are over indulging him. He sounds
like he is old enough to take care of himself and earn his own toys.

- Kurt
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In article <dc898cc1-e7ff-44c0-9dc0-897dc3b2bd69
@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, vbrandt.TakeThisOut@gmail.com says...
> Those are some real fast and fairly expensive bikes to start someone
> on. I think that's why some folks didn't believe you.
>
> Sounds like you are a generous father. And concerned for his well
> being. All boys should be so lucky.
>
> I agree it would be good to spend some time looking at maps with him,
> and maybe take a weekend trip together on the bikes to show him some
> touring tips. If you can coach and observe him in new environments,
> you would probably feel more at ease with him traveling - and for good
> cause.
>
>
>
Nah, he's not just starting out. The first motorbike I bought him was
a Xmas present when he was 11, 15 years ago.

In early December, I told him that he was getting a thing with a
spring and a wheel for Xmas, and left him to try and guess what it was.

Obviously, he never did.

When the big day rolled around, I took him out to the garage and said
"look at this" as I pressed the button on the door opener.

Man, I have never seen a kid's eyes open so wide.

He got so excited that he actually wet his pants.

Isn't it nice to make kids happy?
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In article <13r1rfiant4f8d8.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>,
actinouranium.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net says...
> Scout <dont.TakeThisOut@do.it> wrote:
> >
> > I told a story and enjoyed doing so.
> >
> > You made fun of it, and probably also enjoyed doing so.
>
> I didn't make fun of it - I am totally shocked at how spoiled the
> kid seems to be (granted, spoiled is a relative term). I'm all for
> getting kids started on bikes as early as possible, but you bought him
> two show bikes? I could see myself buying my kid a basic starter bike,
> and a track/race bike if he ever got that serious. But two race replicas
> with the bling is something he would have to save up for and buy on his own.
> I believe there is something to be learned from saving up and working towards
> such things on your own. I know a few kids who have had everything handed
> to them like that. They don't have much appreciation for what it takes
> to earn such toys on their own.
>
> > I only wrote the story for other bikers to enjoy. If you didn't enjoy
> > it, then feel free to move on. I'm not stopping you.
>
> I'll admit to being a bit jealous - my parents would never even let me
> have a bike while I was under their roof - even one that I would buy with
> my own money. But I really think you are over indulging him. He sounds
> like he is old enough to take care of himself and earn his own toys.
>
> - Kurt
>
I hear what you are saying Kurt, but the kid isn't really spoilt.

He's had to save up to pay for his house, and when you're talking that
sort of money, a motorcycle is a toy that most young families just can't
afford.

Bikes have always been the things that Stevie and I get to share as a
father-son thing, and just 'coz his own budget won't run to paying for
such a toy, I don't want to NOT be able to go riding with him.

Neither of the bikes that I have mentioned were race replicas. They
are gentle beasts, but once again, everything is relative. One of MY
bikes managed 2nd place in the NZ Superbike Championship (when I lent it
to someone who could do it justice). So that is the sort of stuff we
got used to.
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In article <XNednTlvLo3G1i3anZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>, nestle12
@comcast.net says...
>
> Why did your name change from Trevor to Scout?
>
New computer.

Migrating from the old one put a lot of the settings up the wazoo.
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bsr3997 DeleteThis @my-deja.com <bsr3997 DeleteThis @my-deja.com> wrote:

> is a good share of the reason many young people today start out just
> living together, to see if it works before making it official. Funny
> thing is I have known a few couples that lived together for years
> before getting married that split up shortly after they got married.

I see that a lot. A buddy of mine is getting ready to move into a place
with his girlfriend. He plans on marrying her one day, but wants to give
it a test drive. He is, on some level, terrified by all the stories he
has been hearing from other young guys in the gym who have recently gotten
married. Apparently, no matter how cool she was, how much of an outgoing
party girl she was, no matter how much "me time" you used to get before
the marriage, all of that changes once the knot it tied. I really get the
impression the entire living together for a bit routine doesn't do a good
job of predicting where the marriage will go.

- Kurt
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On Feb 12, 5:48 am, "Justin" <n....TakeThisOut@spam.com> wrote:
> ~kurt <actinouran....TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> : No, they are defective on some level, and trying to change society
> : to view this as normal behavior so they can feel better about themselves
> : instead of just accepting that they are defective.
>
> Can you possibly yell "I'm an idiot and I'm embarrassing myself" any
> louder than you currently are?


Could it be that you think Kurt is defective on some level?
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~kurt <actinouranium RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote:

: No, they are defective on some level, and trying to change society
: to view this as normal behavior so they can feel better about themselves
: instead of just accepting that they are defective.

Can you possibly yell "I'm an idiot and I'm embarrassing myself" any
louder than you currently are?

Justin
'02 Honda Shadow VT750DC
'07 Suzuki SV650
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On Feb 11, 11:01 pm, Scout <d... RemoveThis @do.it> wrote:
> In article <13r1rfiant4f... RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
> actinouran... RemoveThis @earthlink.net says...
>
>
>
> > Scout <d... RemoveThis @do.it> wrote:
>
> > >   I told a story and enjoyed doing so.
>
> > >   You made fun of it, and probably also enjoyed doing so.
>
> > I didn't make fun of it - I am totally shocked at how spoiled the
> > kid seems to be (granted, spoiled is a relative term).  I'm all for
> > getting kids started on bikes as early as possible, but you bought him
> > two show bikes?  I could see myself buying my kid a basic starter bike,
> > and a track/race bike if he ever got that serious.  But two race replicas
> > with the bling is something he would have to save up for and buy on his own.
> > I believe there is something to be learned from saving up and working towards
> > such things on your own.  I know a few kids who have had everything handed
> > to them like that.  They don't have much appreciation for what it takes
> > to earn such toys on their own.
>
> > >   I only wrote the story for other bikers to enjoy.  If you didn't enjoy
> > > it, then feel free to move on.  I'm not stopping you.
>
> > I'll admit to being a bit jealous - my parents would never even let me
> > have a bike while I was under their roof - even one that I would buy with
> > my own money.  But I really think you are over indulging him.  He sounds
> > like he is old enough to take care of himself and earn his own toys.
>
> > - Kurt
>
>   I hear what you are saying Kurt, but the kid isn't really spoilt.
>
>   He's had to save up to pay for his house, and when you're talking that
> sort of money, a motorcycle is a toy that most young families just can't
> afford.
>
>   Bikes have always been the things that Stevie and I get to share as a
> father-son thing, and just 'coz his own budget won't run to paying for
> such a toy, I don't want to NOT be able to go riding with him.

I hear yeah, care to adopt another son? Only 56 years old and I'd be
happy if you gave me just one nice bike.

>   Neither of the bikes that I have mentioned were race replicas.  They
> are gentle beasts, but once again, everything is relative.  One of MY
> bikes managed 2nd place in the NZ Superbike Championship (when I lent it
> to someone who could do it justice).  So that is the sort of stuff we
> got used to.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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