1983 honda CB1000C

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:13:30 -0800 (PST), sturd <mikesturdevant127.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>From experience, the internet providers might have the part number
>on the site, will let you order it, and then a couple hours/days
>later will tell you via email or phonecall "sorry, it's no longer
>available". I've recently had this happen for both Honda
>('74 CR125M) and Suzuki (GS750EC) parts, from two
>different suppliers. Service Honda in the first case, Bike
>Bandit in the second.

You better be careful. These clowns can't handle truth.

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Jack
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On 9 Jan, 01:13, sturd <mikesturdevant....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The Older Gentleman says:
>
> > An OEM head gasket for a 1982 CB1000 is available, price
> > US$14.47+carriage, from BikeBandit. Are we feeling foolish yet?
>
> From experience, the internet providers might have the part number
> on the site, will let you order it, and then a couple hours/days
> later will tell you via email or phonecall "sorry, it's no longer
> available".  I've recently had this happen for both Honda
> ('74 CR125M) and Suzuki (GS750EC) parts, from two
> different suppliers.  Service Honda in the first case, Bike
> Bandit in the second.
>

Ye-es, but the point of this sub-thread was that Jack started by
saying there was no support for 10+ year-old Hondas.

However, he choose to illustrate his point by referring to a bike that
was actually 25 years old, and then (to general amusement) tied
himself in knots.

The CR125 you mention is 34 years old, and the 750 about 30 years old,
and we have already agreed that some parts for older bikes are hard or
impossible to find. I'd expect this for bikes 30+ years old.

And yes, some suppliers do piss you around. However, as has been
patiently explained, this is a defect of the suppliers concerned and
has nothing to do with the actual manufacturers' spare parts support
policy.
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On Jan 9, 3:31 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail....DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Ye-es, but the point of this sub-thread was that Jack started by
> saying there was no support for 10+ year-old Hondas.
>
> However, he choose to illustrate his point by referring to a bike that
> was actually 25 years old, and then (to general amusement) tied
> himself in knots.

Actually, the only person entertained by your argumentiveness is YOU.

Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
entertainment since you
became impotent.
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TOG@Toil wrote:

> And yes, some suppliers do piss you around. However, as has been
> patiently explained, this is a defect of the suppliers concerned and
> has nothing to do with the actual manufacturers' spare parts support
> policy.

I was surprised to see Service Honda mentioned in this context.
My experience with them has been very positive, and I have never had
them come back saying they couldn't get any parts for my '81 CM400T,
or my '81 CB900C, or my '86 GL1200A.

Since it has been mentioned that S.H. may not be able to get all the
parts listed in their online catalog, if I want to order any parts for
older bikes from them, I will phone first and have them check with the
warehouse for availability.

I have also ordered numerous parts for the three aforementioned bikes
from a local Honda dealer, including a complete top end gasket set for
the CM400T and I never had them tell me they couldn't get a part I
wanted.

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On 9 Jan, 14:16, "ÃÄÈËÎÐÓÖØÙ" <anoblew... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 3:31 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail... RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Ye-es, but the point of this sub-thread was that Jack started by
> > saying there was no support for 10+ year-old Hondas.
>
> > However, he choose to illustrate his point by referring to a bike that
> > was actually 25 years old, and then (to general amusement) tied
> > himself in knots.
>
> Actually, the only person entertained by your argumentiveness is YOU.
>
> Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
> entertainment since you
> became impotent.

Heh. I bet Jack's *really proud* to have you fighting his corner.
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On Jan 9, 7:57 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail... DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 9 Jan, 14:16, "ÃÄÈËÎÐÓÖØÙ" <anoblew... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> > Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
> > entertainment since you
> > became impotent.
>
> Heh. I bet Jack's *really proud* to have you fighting his corner.

rec.motorcycles isn't about experienced riders and mechanics debating
with each other,
it's about helping other motorcyclists with their mechanical and
electrical problems.

If you want to play flame war with other trolls, stay in UKRM.
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?????????<anoblewolf RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 9, 7:57 am, "TOG@Toil" <totallydeadmail... RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > On 9 Jan, 14:16, "ÃÄÈËÎÓÖØÙ" <anoblew... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Interminable Usenet debates have been your only source of
> > > entertainment since you
> > > became impotent.
> >
> > Heh. I bet Jack's *really proud* to have you fighting his corner.
>
> rec.motorcycles isn't about experienced riders and mechanics debating
> with each other,

Er, this isn't rec motorcycles, though, is it?

> it's about helping other motorcyclists with their mechanical and
> electrical problems.

Ah. Now, a while back, you said it was for newbies to be educated about
bikes.

I told you to look at the charter then. I'll tell you the same here.
>
> If you want to play flame war with other trolls, stay in UKRM.

I play with you here, don't I?

You lose.


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BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
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Mark Olson is suprised:

> I was surprised to see Service Honda mentioned in this context.
> My experience with them has been very positive, and I have never had
> them come back saying they couldn't get any parts for my '81 CM400T,
> or my '81 CB900C, or my '86 GL1200A.

My experience with them has been very positive too. They called first
thing when they got to the office the morning after I ordered a CR
part
that was no longer available. Not their fault that the software let's
you
order phantom parts. At least they let me know right away.

Regards,
Mike S.
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????????? <anoblewolf RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have information that might *reasonably* help the OP, then
> share it.

Well, let's see. I have already given him the details of a supplier who
listed the part he wanted, and quoted the price.

Like I said:

You lose! Loser.

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GAGARPHOF#30 GHPOTHUF#1 BOTAFOT#60 ANORAK#06 YTC#3
BOF#30 WUSS#5 The bells, the bells.....
chateau dot murray at idnet dot com
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:25:11 -0800 (PST), sturd
<mikesturdevant127.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Mark Olson is suprised:
>
>> I was surprised to see Service Honda mentioned in this context.
>> My experience with them has been very positive, and I have never had
>> them come back saying they couldn't get any parts for my '81 CM400T,
>> or my '81 CB900C, or my '86 GL1200A.
>
>My experience with them has been very positive too. They called first
>thing when they got to the office the morning after I ordered a CR
>part
>that was no longer available. Not their fault that the software let's
>you
>order phantom parts. At least they let me know right away.

Mike,

A couple of months ago I was searching for some out of production
Gaerne boots. I was able to order them from two different places that
in fact did not have them in stock. I was also notified promptly,
but...

It is someone's responsibility to keep the online store's inventory
current, it's not necessarily a function of the software used. When I
told one of the places they still showed the boots in stock, they
changed the page within a day.

>Mike S.

DJ
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IdaSpode notes:

> It is someone's responsibility to keep the online store's inventory
> current, it's not necessarily a function of the software used. When I
> told one of the places they still showed the boots in stock, they
> changed the page within a day.

Yeabut that's different as no motorcycle shop stocks hard parts
for 20-30 year old bikes, except by accident.

The following is slightly conjecture as I've not had enough
access to the insides of one of these systems but:

My local dealer, an old friend, has let me play with his system
minimally a couple times. You can also access it via internet.

http://www.nrys.com/fiche_select.asp

It supposedly has a direct connection to Yamaha and Suzuki
warehouse stock, as Service Honda most probably does.
The trouble is that connection is less than stellar,
it will let you order stuff that isn't available. If you're standing
at the
counter, it'll come back and tell you right then. If you're doing it
through whatever firewall allows access via internet, it never tells
you anything is not available unless the part number database
says 'no longer available'. I've had the same experience with
my buddy's system as I have with Service Honda's. Order it
online from him for pickup in a couple days and get a call or
email that the parts are no longer available.

So I think in this case, it is a software vendor failing.
I think.


Go fast. Take chances.
Mike S.
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:06:28 -0800 (PST), sturd
<mikesturdevant127 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

>IdaSpode notes:
>
>> It is someone's responsibility to keep the online store's inventory
>> current, it's not necessarily a function of the software used. When I
>> told one of the places they still showed the boots in stock, they
>> changed the page within a day.
>
>Yeabut that's different as no motorcycle shop stocks hard parts
>for 20-30 year old bikes, except by accident.
>
>The following is slightly conjecture as I've not had enough
>access to the insides of one of these systems but:
>
>My local dealer, an old friend, has let me play with his system
>minimally a couple times. You can also access it via internet.
>
>http://www.nrys.com/fiche_select.asp
>
>It supposedly has a direct connection to Yamaha and Suzuki
>warehouse stock, as Service Honda most probably does.
>The trouble is that connection is less than stellar,
>it will let you order stuff that isn't available. If you're standing
>at the
>counter, it'll come back and tell you right then. If you're doing it
>through whatever firewall allows access via internet, it never tells
>you anything is not available unless the part number database
>says 'no longer available'. I've had the same experience with
>my buddy's system as I have with Service Honda's. Order it
>online from him for pickup in a couple days and get a call or
>email that the parts are no longer available.
>
>So I think in this case, it is a software vendor failing.
>I think.

In this case I agree, it's not a simple "shopping cart" that you're
dealing with, as in my examples.

>Mike S.

DJ
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