How do I know my engine temperature

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:27:55 -0800 (PST), kitey <c.kendal DeleteThis @talk21.com>
wrote:

>Morning,
>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>
>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>is not too hot/cold
>
Put your hand on the engine.
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:27:55 -0800 (PST), in
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kitey <c.kendal DeleteThis @talk21.com> wrote:

>Morning,
>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>
>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>is not too hot/cold

If it seizes up it was too hot. If there's no smoke coming out of the
exhaust pipe it's too cold.

HTH.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:27:55 -0800 (PST), kitey <c.kendal DeleteThis @talk21.com>
wrote:

>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>
>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>is not too hot/cold

1. Why would you want to know?

2. What could you do about it if it is running outside parameters?

Oil cooled engines are capable of operation at a huge range of
temperature - sure, they might run a bit cooler in winter and a bit
hotter in summer, but it really isn't anything to get worried about.
Should the engine get a bit sick, it may run hotter, but you'll be
able to tell by the smell of hot engine paint.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:37:41 +0000, Andy Bonwick
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>>Morning,
>>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>>
>>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>>is not too hot/cold
>
>Put your hand on the engine.

Lips would give a better measurement.
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:46:01 +0000, Pip
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>>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>>
>>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>>is not too hot/cold
>
>1. Why would you want to know?
>
>2. What could you do about it if it is running outside parameters?
>
>Oil cooled engines are capable of operation at a huge range of
>temperature - sure, they might run a bit cooler in winter and a bit
>hotter in summer, but it really isn't anything to get worried about.
>Should the engine get a bit sick, it may run hotter, but you'll be
>able to tell by the smell of hot engine paint.

And if it bursts into flames it was probably too hot.
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Pip <gingerblokeNOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:27:55 -0800 (PST), kitey <c.kendal DeleteThis @talk21.com>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>>
>>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>>is not too hot/cold
>
> 1. Why would you want to know?
>
> 2. What could you do about it if it is running outside parameters?
>

The R-GS consumed a fair bit of oil in hot weather and the LCD oil temp
gauge showed an extra bar or two. Especially when on summer hols in
southern Europe. Changing from 10W/40 oil to 20W/50 oil was recommended on
a number of related forums. This has helped reduce oil consumption.

Even BMW GB eventually caught on, using 20W/50 in their workshops for
boxers. Castrol have made their GPS oil available in that multigrade, at a
price. My local motorworld sells 5 litres of Duckhams hypergrade for £7.99
which is fine for the old bus.

> Oil cooled engines are capable of operation at a huge range of
> temperature - sure, they might run a bit cooler in winter and a bit
> hotter in summer, but it really isn't anything to get worried about.
> Should the engine get a bit sick, it may run hotter, but you'll be
> able to tell by the smell of hot engine paint.
>


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On 17 Feb, 20:43, Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMME... RemoveThis @unixconsult.co.uk>
wrote:
> Pete Fisher <Pe... RemoveThis @ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > In communiqué <87wsp3ie46.... RemoveThis @nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
> > <tnewsSPAMME... RemoveThis @unixconsult.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
> >>Pete Fisher <Pe... RemoveThis @ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> writes:
> >>> Well, I suppose, if it works as intended, it shouldn't get to 60
> >>> unless it gets hot enough to need to be 60 IYSWIM.
>
> >>I know that, but then again it should get to 60 around 100C IIRC. And
> >>I'm pretty sure the oilhead BMWs reach that if you're stuck in traffic.
>
> > Bear in mind it is 'car' oil. Not that the clutch or sprag clutch on
> > the Tart seem to be suffering, and Patrick at Pointe de Corde
> > recommends it. The Voxan is the hottest running engine I have ever
> > known, despite being liquid cooled. I really should get round to
> > fitting an oil cooler (standard issue on the latest models).
>
> Car oil is fine in a BMW boxer - after all, they have car-type diaphragm
> clutches and the engine oil only lubricates the engine.
>

D'oh, it's a long time since I owned the R90/6.
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wessie <putmynamehere.RemoveThis@tesco.net> writes:

> Pip <gingerblokeNOSPAM.RemoveThis@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
> news:oc7gr3p8rt59lbutso8eqccdgi8ic1l2sg@4ax.com:
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>> On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:27:55 -0800 (PST), kitey <c.kendal.RemoveThis@talk21.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>>>
>>>How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
>>>is not too hot/cold
>>
>> 1. Why would you want to know?
>>
>> 2. What could you do about it if it is running outside parameters?
>>
>
> The R-GS consumed a fair bit of oil in hot weather and the LCD oil temp
> gauge showed an extra bar or two. Especially when on summer hols in
> southern Europe.

As pretty much every BMW ever built does. Although my 1150RT seems to be
pretty good so far, but it's still winter.

> Changing from 10W/40 oil to 20W/50 oil was recommended on
> a number of related forums. This has helped reduce oil consumption.

Erm, if you look in the owners manual you'll find that 10W40 is only
recommended up to outside temperatures up to about 20C, and has been for
quite a while. It's just that most people don't seem to be willing to
RTFM.

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"kitey" <c.kendal.TakeThisOut@talk21.com> wrote in message
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> Morning,
> I have a Suzuki GSF650 '06, which is oil cooled.
>
> How do I know if my engine is running at trhe correct temperature, and
> is not too hot/cold

Just Ride it and enjoy.
If it's a serious problem, and outside of design limits, I'm certain it will
tell you, and you will know!

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Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT RemoveThis @unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in
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> wessie <putmynamehere RemoveThis @tesco.net> writes:
>> Changing from 10W/40 oil to 20W/50 oil was recommended on
>> a number of related forums. This has helped reduce oil consumption.
>
> Erm, if you look in the owners manual you'll find that 10W40 is only
> recommended up to outside temperatures up to about 20C, and has been for
> quite a while. It's just that most people don't seem to be willing to
> RTFM.
>

The chart in my year 2000 service book is confusing. They show a
temperature range for 10W40 from -20 to 20C as you say. Then, underneath
they refer to special oils of viscosity 10W-X where X>=40, which are fine
for temperatures over 30C. If someone is paying £35 for 4 litres of Castrol
10W/40 then they are entitled to think it is pretty special, don't you
think

Then, you add into the equation, that BMW GB used 10W/40 Castrol across the
range until a service bulletin not that long ago, clarified the situation.

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wessie <putmynamehere.DeleteThis@tesco.net> writes:

> Timo Geusch <tnewsSPAMMENOT.DeleteThis@unixconsult.co.uk> wrote in
> news:87k5l3lecm.fsf@nermal.unix-consult.com:
>
>> wessie <putmynamehere.DeleteThis@tesco.net> writes:
>>> Changing from 10W/40 oil to 20W/50 oil was recommended on
>>> a number of related forums. This has helped reduce oil consumption.
>>
>> Erm, if you look in the owners manual you'll find that 10W40 is only
>> recommended up to outside temperatures up to about 20C, and has been for
>> quite a while. It's just that most people don't seem to be willing to
>> RTFM.
>>
>
> The chart in my year 2000 service book is confusing. They show a
> temperature range for 10W40 from -20 to 20C as you say. Then, underneath
> they refer to special oils of viscosity 10W-X where X>=40, which are fine
> for temperatures over 30C. If someone is paying £35 for 4 litres of Castrol
> 10W/40 then they are entitled to think it is pretty special, don't you
> think

Na, that's just cheap oil . Actually sticking 10W50 oil in for summer
may not be such a bad idea after all, if I can find a decent oil that
I'll get past Brian.

> Then, you add into the equation, that BMW GB used 10W/40 Castrol across the
> range until a service bulletin not that long ago, clarified the situation.

Oddly enough I had to convince Brian to use 20W50 in my GSA in the
summer. He did concede that it was a good idea though once I pointed out
to him what BMW recommended. It also made a big difference to the oil
consumption - I don't think it used any on 20W50.

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In communiqué <87fxvrlbcf.fsf.RemoveThis@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
<tnewsSPAMMENOT.RemoveThis@unixconsult.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>
>Oddly enough I had to convince Brian to use 20W50 in my GSA in the
>summer. He did concede that it was a good idea though once I pointed out
>to him what BMW recommended. It also made a big difference to the oil
>consumption - I don't think it used any on 20W50.
>

Maiden's piss. Sir needs Castrol Formula RS10w 60 like what the Tart
demands.

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Pete Fisher <Peter.TakeThisOut@ps-fisher.demon.co.uk> writes:

> In communiqué <87fxvrlbcf.fsf.TakeThisOut@nermal.unix-consult.com>, Timo Geusch
> <tnewsSPAMMENOT.TakeThisOut@unixconsult.co.uk> cast forth these pearls of wisdom
>>
>>Oddly enough I had to convince Brian to use 20W50 in my GSA in the
>>summer. He did concede that it was a good idea though once I pointed out
>>to him what BMW recommended. It also made a big difference to the oil
>>consumption - I don't think it used any on 20W50.
>>
>
> Maiden's piss. Sir needs Castrol Formula RS10w 60 like what the Tart
> demands.

That's the kind of soup I was thinking of, although I don't know if 60
oil is a bit too much for the boxer engine.

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