My first dead battery - i think

"Lynn McGuire" <nospam.mmcguire.RemoveThis@nospam.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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  > > I felt like going for a ride a little while ago but the bike did not
start
 >
 > If you leave that bike outside then you probably need a charger
 > with your cold weather. I just saw that you are suppose to be
 > 1 F in the morning. Plus, if you have not ridden that new bike
 > at 30+ mph for the last month then you may not be charging
 > your battery up when you ride it (at low speeds).
 >
 > You could try the old 3rd gear running start also. Hang on when
 > that 1300 kicks over !
 >
 > BTW, are you gonna go see Al Gore in the morning give his speech
<font color=purple> > about global warming ? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font</a>>
 > What an idiot !
 >
 > BTW2, it is 61 F here in Sugar Land, TX (outside Houston).
 >
 > Lynn
 > 2000 Nighthawk 750
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Hey Lynn long time no see.

yep my bike is out side under a cover - I think I will pick up what
ever charger R&S Strauss has on stock. I was going to order one on
line with what ever features I would need - I know some have gauges and
some don't
I imagine some have only some, but I couldn't make head or tails out of the
ones online.
I was pretty tired when I was looking and wasn't into reading. so tomorrow
im just going to pick
what ever one they got and get it over with. if this is the way mother
nature wants to keep the weather
im just going to have to deal with it. I will not if I can help it let that
bike sit for more then 2 weeks
during the winter. is that true about the 30mph thing? even when I start to
venture out into
the deeper areas of Manhattan - I will very seldom have the need to go over
30mph I will just end up hitting all the red lights ( in some areas).

I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would like
to atleast see it done
once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push start
it lol.
ill see if I can find a video of that someplace on the internet. or atleast
a site with more information about it... I think il do that right now.
Thank you for the reply Lynn
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 > during the winter. is that true about the 30mph thing? even when I start to
 > venture out into
 > the deeper areas of Manhattan - I will very seldom have the need to go over
 > 30mph I will just end up hitting all the red lights ( in some areas).

I mis-spoke last night. Charging your battery is more an engine speed
thing than a motorcycle speed thing. You need to keep your revs up
to 2000 ? 2500 ? 3000 ? rpm in order to charge your battery.
Someone here will know a lot more than me.

 > I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would like
 > to atleast see it done
 > once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push start
 > it lol.

It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push started
was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.

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  > > during the winter. is that true about the 30mph thing? even when I
start to
  > > venture out into
  > > the deeper areas of Manhattan - I will very seldom have the need to go
over
  > > 30mph I will just end up hitting all the red lights ( in some areas).
 >
 > I mis-spoke last night. Charging your battery is more an engine speed
 > thing than a motorcycle speed thing. You need to keep your revs up
 > to 2000 ? 2500 ? 3000 ? rpm in order to charge your battery.
 > Someone here will know a lot more than me.


i was going to mention last night that i do rev the engine a bit - not like
a mad man
but like a newbie who is aware how to break the bike in correctly but still
tends to rev on the high side.
i can not believe how hard it is to get to the battery on a motorcycle. I
can understand
the placement of the battery but why not have extentions ( optional ) that
can be easily reached
under the plastic covers on the side right under the seat . i will have
to also remove
the alarm each and every time i need to charge the battery . if you have
some kind
of each access to the battery - you can charge the battery with the seat
still on. disconect the charger
and ride.

 >
  > > I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would
like
  > > to atleast see it done
  > > once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push
start
  > > it lol.
 >
 > It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push started
 > was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.
 >
 > Lynn

I was actually laughing at myself while I was trying, but I wanted to ride
and gave
it all I had. I imagine inorder to push start a motorcycle you have to be
going fast enough to put your feet on the pegs?
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 > BTW, are you gonna go see Al Gore in the morning give his speech
<font color=purple> > about global warming ? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font</a>>
 > What an idiot !

Drudge ? Agreed.

making an argument that says

"it's really warm/cold today, so global warming must be true/false"

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 > under the plastic covers on the side right under the seat . i will have
 > to also remove
 > the alarm each and every time i need to charge the battery . if you have
 > some kind
 > of each access to the battery - you can charge the battery with the seat
 > still on. disconect the charger
 > and ride.

If you think you're going to be charging it often, you
need to wire some kind of extension to allow you to do this
without tearing the bike apart.

Either an accessory/lighter socket or a plug of some kind.

Some battery tenders come with a plug that permanantly connects
to the battery.

If you don't have a hookup already, figure out the amps you want
to be charging at and buy a plug and wire from any auto parts store.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Extreme-cc's wrote:
 > "Lynn McGuire" <NOSPAM.winsim RemoveThis @NOSPAM.winsim.com> wrote in message
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 >
   >>>during the winter. is that true about the 30mph thing? even when I
  >>
 > start to
 >
   >>>venture out into
   >>>the deeper areas of Manhattan - I will very seldom have the need to go
  >>
 > over
 >
   >>>30mph I will just end up hitting all the red lights ( in some areas).
  >>
  >>I mis-spoke last night. Charging your battery is more an engine speed
  >>thing than a motorcycle speed thing. You need to keep your revs up
  >>to 2000 ? 2500 ? 3000 ? rpm in order to charge your battery.
  >>Someone here will know a lot more than me.
 >
 >
 >
 > i was going to mention last night that i do rev the engine a bit - not like
 > a mad man
 > but like a newbie who is aware how to break the bike in correctly but still
 > tends to rev on the high side.
 > i can not believe how hard it is to get to the battery on a motorcycle. I
 > can understand
 > the placement of the battery but why not have extentions ( optional ) that
 > can be easily reached
 > under the plastic covers on the side right under the seat . i will have
 > to also remove
 > the alarm each and every time i need to charge the battery . if you have
 > some kind
 > of each access to the battery - you can charge the battery with the seat
 > still on. disconect the charger
 > and ride.
 >
 >
   >>>I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would
  >>
 > like
 >
   >>>to atleast see it done
   >>>once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push
  >>
 > start
 >
   >>>it lol.
  >>
  >>It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push started
  >>was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.
  >>
  >>Lynn
 >
 >
 > I was actually laughing at myself while I was trying, but I wanted to ride
 > and gave
 > it all I had. I imagine inorder to push start a motorcycle you have to be
 > going fast enough to put your feet on the pegs?
 > Tom
 >
 >

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 > lol imma dick
 > lol really i am


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   > > > I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would
 > like
   > > > to atleast see it done
   > > > once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push
 > start
   > > > it lol.
  > >
  > > It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push started
  > > was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.
  > >
  > > Lynn
 >
 > I was actually laughing at myself while I was trying, but I wanted to ride
 > and gave
 > it all I had. I imagine inorder to push start a motorcycle you have to be
 > going fast enough to put your feet on the pegs?
 > Tom

I always ran beside the motorcycle (on the left side) and popped
the clutch when I got it up to about 5-6 mph. The exciting part is
if it starts and you have to either declutch OR jump on it and ride
with it. I never decided which was easier.

BTW, is this bike fuel injected ? If so, forget it. You need to have
enough battery to run the high pressure (40 psi) fuel pump.

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"Lynn McGuire" <NOSPAM.winsim.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.winsim.com> wrote in message
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   > > > > I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I
would
  > > like
   > > > > to atleast see it done
   > > > > once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to
push
  > > start
   > > > > it lol.
   > > >
   > > > It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push
started
   > > > was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.
   > > >
   > > > Lynn
  > >
  > > I was actually laughing at myself while I was trying, but I wanted to
ride
  > > and gave
  > > it all I had. I imagine inorder to push start a motorcycle you have to
be
  > > going fast enough to put your feet on the pegs?
  > > Tom
 >
 > I always ran beside the motorcycle (on the left side) and popped
 > the clutch when I got it up to about 5-6 mph. The exciting part is
 > if it starts and you have to either declutch OR jump on it and ride
 > with it. I never decided which was easier.
 >

well i certainly hope it dont start next time i try to push start it .
yep im getting a battery charger.
i think i would rather now feel like i have to jump on it and ride.
couldnt i just hold the clutch in and rev it a little? then nice and calmly
sit on the bike and ride away?

 > BTW, is this bike fuel injected ? If so, forget it. You need to have
 > enough battery to run the high pressure (40 psi) fuel pump.
 >
 > Lynn
 >

nope the vtx1800 is FI the 1300 is carb.
for the winter im thinking it would probably be better
to have the FI?
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Get a battery minder at batterymart.com (no affiliation) and use the
included wires to permanently have a small connector on the bike at a
convenient place to hook up the charger to. It also won't overcharge
your bike and keep the battery full !

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:59:31 -0600, "Extreme-cc's"
<MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >
 >
 >"Lynn McGuire" <NOSPAM.winsim RemoveThis @NOSPAM.winsim.com> wrote in message
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   >> > during the winter. is that true about the 30mph thing? even when I
 >start to
   >> > venture out into
   >> > the deeper areas of Manhattan - I will very seldom have the need to go
 >over
   >> > 30mph I will just end up hitting all the red lights ( in some areas).
  >>
  >> I mis-spoke last night. Charging your battery is more an engine speed
  >> thing than a motorcycle speed thing. You need to keep your revs up
  >> to 2000 ? 2500 ? 3000 ? rpm in order to charge your battery.
  >> Someone here will know a lot more than me.
 >
 >
 >i was going to mention last night that i do rev the engine a bit - not like
 >a mad man
 >but like a newbie who is aware how to break the bike in correctly but still
 >tends to rev on the high side.
 >i can not believe how hard it is to get to the battery on a motorcycle. I
 >can understand
 >the placement of the battery but why not have extentions ( optional ) that
 >can be easily reached
 >under the plastic covers on the side right under the seat . i will have
 >to also remove
 >the alarm each and every time i need to charge the battery . if you have
 >some kind
 >of each access to the battery - you can charge the battery with the seat
 >still on. disconect the charger
 >and ride.
 >
  >>
   >> > I don't think im going to try to push start that bike again. I would
 >like
   >> > to atleast see it done
   >> > once before doing it myself. hell im not even sure I know how to push
 >start
   >> > it lol.
  >>
  >> It can be a blast when it catches. The biggest bike I ever push started
  >> was a CB350. I can not even imagine push starting a VTX1300.
  >>
  >> Lynn
 >
 >I was actually laughing at myself while I was trying, but I wanted to ride
 >and gave
 >it all I had. I imagine inorder to push start a motorcycle you have to be
 >going fast enough to put your feet on the pegs?
 >Tom
 >

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"Extreme-cc's" <MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > I felt like going for a ride a little while ago but the bike did not start
 > .
......
 > im not sure how cold it was tonight at 6pm but im sure it was between 10F
 > and 4F.
 > on cold days I can push the bike in my not so warm hallway but not sure
how
 > long I will have
 > to leave it there to make a difference and don't want to block others that
 > have to pass.

Hi Tom,
Crudely speaking, the +H ions recombine with the -OH ions to make water when
the battery goes dead, raising the acid's freeze point to that of water. If
the battery's dead and it's getting that cold outside, you should take it
out of the bike and get it inside to thaw out. The plates in the battery
will deform when the acid freezes, which damages the battery. You won't get
any current going into the battery if it's frozen solid. It sounds like
you're not riding the bike long enough to keep the battery charged. Does
your anti-theft system run off you battery too? Sounds lie you should get a
charger for the winter months.

2 and a half months till spring,

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Not sure *what* was going on, Rkleinsch1216128.RemoveThis@aol.com (Rob
Kleinschmidt) leapt in with:

 >"Extreme-cc's" <MrGantlet911(remove)@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<1074193172.782659.RemoveThis@nntp.acecape.com>...
 >
  >> under the plastic covers on the side right under the seat . i will have
  >> to also remove
  >> the alarm each and every time i need to charge the battery . if you have
  >> some kind
  >> of each access to the battery - you can charge the battery with the seat
  >> still on. disconect the charger
  >> and ride.
 >
 >If you think you're going to be charging it often, you
 >need to wire some kind of extension to allow you to do this
 >without tearing the bike apart.

Yes. Decidedly. ALL my motorcycles (and my wife's motorcycles too)
have a pigtail for charging. They double as a connection to my
Gerbing's jacket.

 >Either an accessory/lighter socket or a plug of some kind.
 >
 >Some battery tenders come with a plug that permanantly connects
 >to the battery.

The Battery Tender(tm) comes with such a connector.

 >If you don't have a hookup already, figure out the amps you want
 >to be charging at and buy a plug and wire from any auto parts store.

Don't bother figuring anything; get the Battery Tender -- it does the
figuring for you. Plug it in and forget it. Until you're going to
ride. DON'T forget it then. Unplug and go.

pooder was here recommending the best way to keep a battery happy

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Lynn McGuire wrote:

 > BTW, are you gonna go see Al Gore in the morning give his speech
<font color=purple> > about global warming ? <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm</font</a>>
 > What an idiot !

You obviously know next to nothing about climate change.
Google is your friend. Read and learn.


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