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Dom1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:41 pm
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Any opinions / insight this bike is appreciated. I hope to be selling the
03 xr250r in hopes of upgradeing to a crf250x.

Mostly looking for a little bit more throttle performance and the electric
start is attractive. The xr is one pain to start in if the temperature isn't
at least in the 50s.

Thanks Guys,
Dom

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:41 pm
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"Dom" <no DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in news:0B%1e.21512$aS5.13586@trndny05:

 > Any opinions / insight this bike is appreciated. I hope to be selling
 > the 03 xr250r in hopes of upgradeing to a crf250x.
 >
 > Mostly looking for a little bit more throttle performance and the
 > electric start is attractive. The xr is one pain to start in if the
 > temperature isn't at least in the 50s.
 >
 > Thanks Guys,
 > Dom
 >
 >
 >
 >

A lot more maintenance will be required than the trusty old XR plus all
the pain that can go with water cooling.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:41 pm
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Can you elaborate on "the pain of water cooling", and possibly offer a
solution to starting the xr more reliably.

I could deal with less p[ower if it started all the time for me. Sometimes
the xr starts up in a few kicks, other times I have to change the plug, and
kick it for 20 minutes, and still nothing. And I'm kicking it on the power
stroke, where it should be started.

Thanks for the quick reply.



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 > "Dom" <no.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in news:0B%1e.21512$aS5.13586@trndny05:
 >
  >> Any opinions / insight this bike is appreciated. I hope to be selling
  >> the 03 xr250r in hopes of upgradeing to a crf250x.
  >>
  >> Mostly looking for a little bit more throttle performance and the
  >> electric start is attractive. The xr is one pain to start in if the
  >> temperature isn't at least in the 50s.
  >>
  >> Thanks Guys,
  >> Dom
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 > A lot more maintenance will be required than the trusty old XR plus all
 > the pain that can go with water cooling.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:41 pm
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:31:24 GMT, "Dom" <no.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:

 >Any opinions / insight this bike is appreciated. I hope to be selling the
 >03 xr250r in hopes of upgradeing to a crf250x.
 >
 >Mostly looking for a little bit more throttle performance and the electric
 >start is attractive. The xr is one pain to start in if the temperature isn't
 >at least in the 50s.

The magazines all like it. More maintenance if you race it/ride the
piss out of it though.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:40 pm
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 22:54:37 GMT, "Dom" <no.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:

 >Can you elaborate on "the pain of water cooling", and possibly offer a
 >solution to starting the xr more reliably.

Impellers that go south. Two expensive water-tube/tanks on either
side that stick out and collect pointy puncture sticks and need guards
for when they hit the ground after a biff.
Thermostats or thermostatically sensitive radiator caps - are they
altitude sensitive?
Over heating and filling it up with what's left in your camelbak of
Gatorade.

I dunno, it didn't stop me from making the switch from an XR400 to a
2-stroke water-cooled bike - but that's me and the weight difference
had more to do with it (and me tiring out).

 >I could deal with less p[ower if it started all the time for me. Sometimes
 >the xr starts up in a few kicks, other times I have to change the plug, and
 >kick it for 20 minutes, and still nothing. And I'm kicking it on the power
 >stroke, where it should be started.

My '97 XR400 was a bitch until I re-jetted, and that was a major bitch
to get at the jetting thingies - but it was a triple cold-blooded
witch-bitch anyhow. Never had to change the plug though.

I eventually got it to one-kick start more consistently with a
technique that cracked the throttle slightly more open that the usual
1/8th turn, after the usual prime stroke, and the lean it over to
dribble the bad old "flat" gas out the carb and kick on the power
stroke.
For me the supposed rule: "Never touch the throttle" just didn't work
on the XR.
But basically that and the weight were why I switched to a stinkwheel.

 >Thanks for the quick reply.

HTH

-keith
'97 KTM 300MXC, '99 BetaTechno<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:13 am
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***
My '97 XR400 was a bitch until I re-jetted, and that was a major bitch
to get at the jetting thingies
***

What was your technique?

On my KTM 300 the only way I found workable is to just rip the whole
carb out. But I can have it out... in under a minute and I can put it
back in about the same.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:15 am
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Can you elaborate on "the pain of water cooling", and possibly offer a
solution to starting the xr more reliably.


***

If you have to do frequent top ends (which is the prediction), the rads
add a bit of a PIA... drain/remove, install/fill...
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:21 am
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On 30 Mar 2005 05:13:37 -0800, "dsc" <Dudley.Cornman DeleteThis @eku.edu> wrote:

 >***
 >My '97 XR400 was a bitch until I re-jetted, and that was a major bitch
 >to get at the jetting thingies
 >***
 >
 >What was your technique?

Basically dismantle the ass-half of the XR to get at it, and then it
still required the double-jointed hands of a rhesus monkey to fiddle
with the crap in it.

 >On my KTM 300 the only way I found workable is to just rip the whole
 >carb out. But I can have it out... in under a minute and I can put it
 >back in about the same.

Mo-easy!!

-k
'97 KTM 300MXC, '99 BetaTechno<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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