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Since: Aug 15, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:00 pm
Post subject: Some bikes start better than others.
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So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and
heavy oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the
bike back and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for
winter storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
Push it down the culdesac and bump it. Locks rear wheel. Get to main
road, REALLY get it going....whir-whir-bump-whir-bump. One more
time....it springs to life. Damn thing anyway, used to have to do the
same routine on the old one every spring. Put 25 miles on it, and got
a new tank of fuel in it for the next 6 weeks storage.
Now I wheel out the 15 year old bike. Break the clutch plates loose.
Thumb starter for 3 seconds. Nothing. Thumb starter and get a bump or
two. Third try, and that 15 year old machine springs to life at low
idle....45 seconds later kicks to high idle, ridable within another
minute.
Put 30 miles on the 1100.
Tomorrow its going to be 60F, I plan on getting them both out again. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:17 pm
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TroytheTroll wrote:
> So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and
> heavy oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the
> bike back and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for
> winter storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
> whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
> seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
>
> Push it down the culdesac and bump it. Locks rear wheel. Get to main
> road, REALLY get it going....whir-whir-bump-whir-bump. One more
> time....it springs to life. Damn thing anyway, used to have to do the
> same routine on the old one every spring. Put 25 miles on it, and got
> a new tank of fuel in it for the next 6 weeks storage.
>
> Now I wheel out the 15 year old bike. Break the clutch plates loose.
> Thumb starter for 3 seconds. Nothing. Thumb starter and get a bump or
> two. Third try, and that 15 year old machine springs to life at low
> idle....45 seconds later kicks to high idle, ridable within another
> minute.
>
> Put 30 miles on the 1100.
>
> Tomorrow its going to be 60F, I plan on getting them both out again.
Troy, I guess living in Calif and AZ had spoiled me. It rarely goes below
freezing in my garage so even the clutch sticking thingy never happens.
Just bump the starter and in goes into fast idle for maybe 10 seconds and
it's ready to go. Same with the Sprint, Gixxer1000, old 78 GS1000 and my
1st SV. Once in awhile my Cali bikes needed a new battery but the temps
rarely got below freezing in the SFBA either. How cold does it get in
Denver & SLC, for Bryan?
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Bob Nixon, RZ-350, SV-650, Chandler, AZ. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:41 am
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On Jan 26, 11:00 pm, "TroytheTroll" <f4_....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and
> heavy oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the
> bike back and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for
> winter storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
> whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
> seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
>
> Push it down the culdesac and bump it. Locks rear wheel. Get to main
> road, REALLY get it going....whir-whir-bump-whir-bump. One more
> time....it springs to life. Damn thing anyway, used to have to do the
> same routine on the old one every spring. Put 25 miles on it, and got
> a new tank of fuel in it for the next 6 weeks storage.
Must be something to do with the thumpers. My XL350 was a bear to
start in the cold. And it didn't have the benefit of an electric
starter... >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:47 am
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>> Push it down the culdesac and bump it. Locks rear wheel. Get to
>> main
>> road, REALLY get it going....whir-whir-bump-whir-bump. One more
>> time....it springs to life. Damn thing anyway, used to have to do
>> the
>> same routine on the old one every spring. Put 25 miles on it, and
>> got
>> a new tank of fuel in it for the next 6 weeks storage.
>Must be something to do with the thumpers. My XL350 was a bear to
>start in the cold. And it didn't have the benefit of an electric
>starter...
My old KLR used to do the same thing. I always figured it did it
because it was old, now I think its a KLR thing in general, and I'm
willing to expand the concept to thumpers. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:50 am
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> Pull your index finger out of your nose, Troy.
>
Krusty!!!
> Just do what owners of big singles have been doing for decades when
> starting
> an engine that hasn't been started recently.
>
> Reach down on the right hand side of the carburetor and find the
> knurled knob
> that adjusts the idle speed.
>
> Using your now-available index finger and thumb, turn the the idle
> mixture
> knob
> counterclockwise until the end of the adjusting screw no longer
> prevents the
> butterfly from closing completely.
>
> Now, move the choke lever into the full ON position and crank the
> engine
> without
> twisting the throttle grip.
>
Sorry Krusty, got ya covered here. Learned that trick on the old bike.
And it doesn't help when the bike has been down for weeks, and cold.
Works when the bike is intermediate cold, but not deep cold for 6
weeks.
> Once the engine starts, nurse the RPM manually until it becomes warm
> enough
> to readjust the idle speed.
>
Because the butterfly open trick has never worked on the first start
of spring, I just bump it, and once its running keep it that way for a
minute or two. It'll idle on just choke after that. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:02 pm
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>> I think Brian has bigger problems than I do, my garage is heated.
>> Only
>> to 40F, but still thats better than nothing. Back in the old days I
>> just used unheated sheds, and that was tougher.
>
> That's funny. All 3 of my bikes have started yesterday after sitting
> since Thanksgiving. My 10 year old S3T did it without drama
> whatsoever. Pull the choke out, click the starter butting, and
> Vroom.
Well my old bike did this fine, but not the new one. After sitting for
a month or two, needing more than one stab at the starter button isn't
a big deal. Having to bump start the silly thing is irritating.
> This is the 1st year in 4 years that I couldn't ride during the
> winter.
Global warming sucks, don't it?
> The roads just haven't been clean of snow and ice enough. There was
> one stretch of about 3-4 days of warm weather, but the fog was far
> too thick to commute to work safely.
I have to ride on ice to get out of my driveway. It stinks. To avoid
it I ride along the sidewalk to someone elses driveway, and then its
only 3 or 4 feet of ice, versus 20 or 30. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:20 pm
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My KLR started on the 3rd try this aft. It has not been running since the
end of November.
Inside my garage the temp was probably close to the outside temp of -6 C or
about 21 F.
I do keep the battery on a smart tender which no doubt helps.
-6 C is well above the seasonal normal here at 50 north. Normal daytime high
this time of year is about -15 C or about 5 F. I was not tempted to ride as
the streets are covered by ice sand and salt.
Rob
KLR650 >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:20 pm
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> I do keep the battery on a smart tender which no doubt helps.
Yeah, a stronger battery is always good. I just put mine in the garage
and forget about them, knowing I'll get a chance for a midwinter ride
and thats enough to tide the bike over until springtime when regular
run time seems to cure all ills, including weaker batteries. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:49 pm
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TroytheTroll wrote:
> So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and heavy
> oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the bike back
> and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for winter
> storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
> whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
> seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
I got insulated (not heated) garage and the temp never drops below 45F.
FZ-1 starts always flawlessly in the winter. BTW I use Rotella 5w40 Syn
in all my vehicles (well not all, have to figure out what to put into MB
yet)
A. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:26 am
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alf wrote:
> TroytheTroll wrote:
>> So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and
>> heavy oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the
>> bike back and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for
>> winter storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
>> whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
>> seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
>
> I got insulated (not heated) garage and the temp never drops below 45F.
> FZ-1 starts always flawlessly in the winter. BTW I use Rotella 5w40 Syn
> in all my vehicles (well not all, have to figure out what to put into MB
> yet)
>
> A.
I was going to use Rotella-T as well this winter in the bikes, but since
I really haven't been able to ride 'em, I haven't done this. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:31 am
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TroytheTroll wrote:
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>>> I think Brian has bigger problems than I do, my garage is heated. Only
>>> to 40F, but still thats better than nothing. Back in the old days I
>>> just used unheated sheds, and that was tougher.
>>
>> That's funny. All 3 of my bikes have started yesterday after sitting
>> since Thanksgiving. My 10 year old S3T did it without drama
>> whatsoever. Pull the choke out, click the starter butting, and Vroom.
>
> Well my old bike did this fine, but not the new one. After sitting for a
> month or two, needing more than one stab at the starter button isn't a
> big deal. Having to bump start the silly thing is irritating.
If that happened to me, I'd be calling the local HD shop to come start
it for me. That's what a warranty are for ya know  And yes, they'll do
that. I took the wife's bike in earlier this winter and had the muffler
replaced because of some rust spots(one of the disadvantages of the
underslung muffler, and riding year 'round.) Can we count that as a
Buell failure yet?
>> This is the 1st year in 4 years that I couldn't ride during the winter.
>
> Global warming sucks, don't it?
Yeah, tell me about it. This winter SUCKS! The wife and I are tempted to
load the bikes in the back of the truck and head south till it hits 50,
and unload 'em and ride.
>> The roads just haven't been clean of snow and ice enough. There was
>> one stretch of about 3-4 days of warm weather, but the fog was far too
>> thick to commute to work safely.
>
> I have to ride on ice to get out of my driveway. It stinks. To avoid it
> I ride along the sidewalk to someone elses driveway, and then its only 3
> or 4 feet of ice, versus 20 or 30.
90% of my parking lot at work never sees sunlight, so commuting to work
is a no go until we get some much warmer weather. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:24 pm
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>>> That's funny. All 3 of my bikes have started yesterday after
>>> sitting since Thanksgiving. My 10 year old S3T did it without
>>> drama whatsoever. Pull the choke out, click the starter butting,
>>> and Vroom.
>>
>> Well my old bike did this fine, but not the new one. After sitting
>> for a month or two, needing more than one stab at the starter
>> button isn't a big deal. Having to bump start the silly thing is
>> irritating.
>
> If that happened to me, I'd be calling the local HD shop to come
> start it for me. That's what a warranty are for ya know
Not me. Considering the quality of work at most shops I am familiar
with, the odds of them making any situation worse is higher and not
worth the risk.
>And yes, they'll do that. I took the wife's bike in earlier this
>winter and had the muffler replaced because of some rust spots(one of
>the disadvantages of the underslung muffler, and riding year 'round.)
>Can we count that as a Buell failure yet?
>
Nope. We must be fair. >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:22 pm
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On Jan 27, 12:17 am, _Bob_Nixon_ <bi....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> TroytheTroll wrote:
> > So I wheel out the hardware after lunch today. Break the cold and
> > heavy oil sticking the clutch plates together loose by rocking the
> > bike back and forth. Note to self....next fall put the 10w-40 in for
> > winter storage instead of the 20w-50. I thumb the starter on the KLR.
> > whir-whir-whir. Wait 10 seconds. Repeat. whir-whir-whir. Wait 10
> > seconds. Whir-whir-whir.
>
> > Push it down the culdesac and bump it. Locks rear wheel. Get to main
> > road, REALLY get it going....whir-whir-bump-whir-bump. One more
> > time....it springs to life. Damn thing anyway, used to have to do the
> > same routine on the old one every spring. Put 25 miles on it, and got
> > a new tank of fuel in it for the next 6 weeks storage.
>
> > Now I wheel out the 15 year old bike. Break the clutch plates loose.
> > Thumb starter for 3 seconds. Nothing. Thumb starter and get a bump or
> > two. Third try, and that 15 year old machine springs to life at low
> > idle....45 seconds later kicks to high idle, ridable within another
> > minute.
>
> > Put 30 miles on the 1100.
>
> > Tomorrow its going to be 60F, I plan on getting them both out again.
>
> Troy, I guess living in Calif and AZ had spoiled me. It rarely goes below
> freezing in my garage so even the clutch sticking thingy never happens.
It goes enough below freezing in my garage for a gallon of distilled
water to freeze completely solid. I don't have clutch plates
sticking together on any of my bikes. Of course, they all have full
synthetic, and only the Harley has 20w50. Oh, wait, the S4Rs has a
dry clutch, so it's immune. Oh, wait, so does the 916.
Never mind.... >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:58 pm
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"TroytheTroll" <f4_boy.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hoydnVGmyOqwBAHanZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@giganews.com:
> I think Brian has bigger problems than I do, my garage is heated.
> Only to 40F, but still thats better than nothing. Back in the old
> days I just used unheated sheds, and that was tougher.
Here in the Sierra Nevada mountains of CA, it gets into the low 40s in
my garage. It's not heated, but it is attached to the heated house, so
it never gets real, real cold out there. It was 25 here last night and
the garage was 39 this morning. Even after sitting for two or three
weeks, the Blackbird fires right up every time I get a chance to take
it out, and I've never had the clutch plates stick together. Just
lucky, I guess.
-Keith
'03 Blackbird >> Stay informed about: Some bikes start better than others. |
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