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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:45 am
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Seeing Denise Howard, Larry Lovisone, and my riding buddy Kim, and
watching the great films of the old Grand Prix Motorcycle Racing
Association/AFM at the AFM booth. I never did see my 119 though. Maybe I
wasn't media savvy at the time, or was in the paddock rebuilding a
clutch instead of getting filmed (super8). Seeing film of the Cotati
Raceway really brought back memories though, of the treacherous
pavement, flat turns, cyclone fencing and other scary features.
Ducati 1098, yummy. The Tricolor paint scheme is very nice.
MV Agusta Senna, nice but who wants to spend 30K on bike?
Honorable mention to the Series "C" Vincent Black Shadow at the Calif MC
Museum booth, Tim Mayhew of Pashnit.com, the corndogs, Rossi's M1.
There were a few nice classics at various displays. A MachIII Kawasaki
among them.
The rest of the show?
Yawn.
BMW has dropped the R1200ST, the R1150RS, the only two bikes I liked at
all in the lineup last year. The 800 thing is hohum at best.
Honda had less than zero. No more RC51, VTR and nothing new to the lineup.
Yamaha has improved the FZ1, aside from that, another boring lineup.
Kawasaki? Fuggedaboutit.
Suzuki? same old same old Eyeabusers and Gixxers.
Not a single SV to be seen either. What's up?
You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the
USA are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:45 am
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motomij wrote:
>You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the
>USA are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
Manufacturers believe market research and sales statistics and these
currently indicate that cruisers and sportbikes are what most of their
customers are currently seeking when they buy new bikes.
>Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
This is only because the demand for "standard" bikes is too low to be
worth the manufacturers' interest.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:45 am
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In article , motomij
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> Seeing Denise Howard, Larry Lovisone, and my riding buddy Kim, and
> watching the great films of the old Grand Prix Motorcycle Racing
> Association/AFM at the AFM booth.
You were my first celebrity sighting of the day! 
> I never did see my 119 though. Maybe I
> wasn't media savvy at the time, or was in the paddock rebuilding a
> clutch instead of getting filmed (super8). Seeing film of the Cotati
> Raceway really brought back memories though, of the treacherous
> pavement, flat turns, cyclone fencing and other scary features.
It's a great compilation of 50 years' worth of history of the AFM--I
soooo wish it was available for sale.
> Suzuki? same old same old Eyeabusers and Gixxers.
You know what, though? They've dramatically changed the geometry of
the GSXRs with regard to riding position. They used to be known for a
long reach to the bars, enough to cause a backache for those of us used
to Hondas. But today I practically had my elbows on my knees as I
tried out both the 750 and the 1000. And the real shocker was that I
could flat-foot both of them! I'm only 5'7". Maybe Suzuki got the
message that some of us folks under 6' would also like to ride
sportbikes without having to do mods to either the bike or the at-rest
position.
> Not a single SV to be seen either. What's up?
You were looking at the GSXRs and you didn't see the SVs? They were
right behind the GSXRs. They've dramatically changed the gas tank on
the SVs--it's much taller now, so that if you put a tang bag on top of
it you'd be bouncing your chin on it as you ride. I'm only
exaggerating a little bit! I wouldn't like that tank at all.
The show is _much_ bigger this year than in the past 7 or 8 years at
least--it fills five exhibit rooms. And there were a _lot_ of folks in
attendance today.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:45 am
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"motomij" wrote in message
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> Not a single SV to be seen either. What's up?
Right behind the GSXRs....
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> You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the
> USA are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
> Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
Only thing I saw in "standards" was the new Bandit. 1257cc's (vs the
previous 1157), water cooled - so many old coots pawing over it that this
old coot had to wait in line, but at least while waiting I had a nice chat
with Dale Walker as he told me the mods he already has planned for it.
> Jim Stinnett
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:38 am
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Denise Howard wrote:
> You were looking at the GSXRs and you didn't see the SVs? They were
> right behind the GSXRs. They've dramatically changed the gas tank on
> the SVs--it's much taller now, so that if you put a tang bag on top of
> it you'd be bouncing your chin on it as you ride. I'm only
> exaggerating a little bit! I wouldn't like that tank at all.
>
> The show is _much_ bigger this year than in the past 7 or 8 years at
> least--it fills five exhibit rooms. And there were a _lot_ of folks in
> attendance today.
>
Oh, well. Guess it's time I got my eyes checked, but hey I just
remembered, Triumph wasn't there either were they?
We did walk all five halls though, but never found a few things I was
hoping to see, Helimot and Triumph among them.
Still liked that film you all had, and that Vincent.. 
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:05 pm
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motomij writes:
> You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the USA
> are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
> Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
Well, what did you see in the parking lot? Cruisers and sportbikes
were the vast majority Sunday morning. Oh, I notices some BMW GS
but that's probably because I ride a GS so are more likely to notice
them.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:39 pm
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On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:45:52 GMT, motomij wrote:
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>You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the
>USA are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
>Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
>
It's not that fewer people want standards, or sport tourers, or other
moderate machines. It's more like the people that do want them get
them, are happy with them, and don't feel the need to replace them
every year or two.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:49 pm
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Alan Moore wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:45:52 GMT, motomij wrote:
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> <snip>
>> You would assume that the manufacturers believe all we want here in the
>> USA are GIANT cruisers, and ripped to the tits sportbikes.
>> Standard riding machines may as well be a thing of the past.
>>
> It's not that fewer people want standards, or sport tourers, or other
> moderate machines. It's more like the people that do want them get
> them, are happy with them, and don't feel the need to replace them
> every year or two.
>
> Al Moore
> DoD 734
That seems to fit, Al. I got my 1982 Virago in 1999, and am only now
contemplating a replacement because the last time it needed a part, the
wait was unconscionable.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:49 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:10 pm
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Jim Stinnett wrote:
> Denise Howard wrote:
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>> You were looking at the GSXRs and you didn't see the SVs? They were
>> right behind the GSXRs. They've dramatically changed the gas tank on
>> the SVs--it's much taller now, so that if you put a tang bag on top of
>> it you'd be bouncing your chin on it as you ride. I'm only
>> exaggerating a little bit! I wouldn't like that tank at all.
>>
>> The show is _much_ bigger this year than in the past 7 or 8 years at
>> least--it fills five exhibit rooms. And there were a _lot_ of folks in
>> attendance today.
>>
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> Oh, well. Guess it's time I got my eyes checked, but hey I just
> remembered, Triumph wasn't there either were they?
> We did walk all five halls though, but never found a few things I was
> hoping to see, Helimot and Triumph among them.
> Still liked that film you all had, and that Vincent..
>
Yep, Triumph was there. Time to make that eye doc appointment Jim.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm
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In article , Patti Beadles
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> In article ,
> Paul Elliot wrote:
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> >Yep, Triumph was there. Time to make that eye doc appointment Jim.
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> Where? I didn't see them either.
Nor did I....
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:44 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:52 am
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Denise Howard writes:
> In article , Patti Beadles
> wrote:
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> > In article ,
> > Paul Elliot wrote:
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> > >Yep, Triumph was there. Time to make that eye doc appointment Jim.
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> > Where? I didn't see them either.
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> Nor did I....
There were some Triumphs in the vintage bike display...
does that count
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:21 pm
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Highlights -
For me, the strong showing in general by the Italians was nice..
Put me on the list for the Cagiva Mito 500!
Seemed to be drawing a steady crowd..even being right between a couple
MV's..
...which themselves were pretty drool-tastic. They're not all $30k,
either. My wife has pretty much decided that some form of the MV F4
will replace/augment her CBR
Speaking of Hondas...yeah.. Where were they? Not even a single 1000RR
in the house?
And the 600RR that was there had quite an unfortunate color scheme..
I did get a big grin out of the red-white-blue VFR.. '25th Anniversary
Interceptor'
Where's LarryL with a rant?
The smaller exhibits in the other bldgs also were a welcome
change...enjoyed that diesel BMW streamliner, especially.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:26 pm
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Marco S Hyman wrote:
> Denise Howard writes:
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>>In article , Patti Beadles
>> wrote:
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>>>In article ,
>>>Paul Elliot wrote:
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>>>>Yep, Triumph was there. Time to make that eye doc appointment Jim.
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>>>Where? I didn't see them either.
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>>Nor did I....
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> There were some Triumphs in the vintage bike display...
> does that count
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> // marc
OK, What I saw must have been just the dealer bikes, but I DID see some.
I don't recall seeing a Rocket though...
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