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Kim

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 12:05 am
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i have a maintenance free sealed battery.

on the side it says standard charge .6A 5-10hours

what i'm wondering is if charging at 2A for shorter will damage the battery.

my only other option is to buy a 1A charger.
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also my battery hasn't been used in a while so how would i check how long i
need to charge for? could i use a voltmeter from a hardware store?


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:14 am
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 23:05:45 -0500, "Kim" wrote:

 >i have a maintenance free sealed battery.
 >
 >on the side it says standard charge .6A 5-10hours
 >
 >what i'm wondering is if charging at 2A for shorter will damage the battery.

More than likely it would. I would not attempt it without at least
remove the caps (there's usually a way; "sealed" still has to have a
way to get the electrolite into it in the first place). Otherwise,
the pressure built up by the hydrogen (generated by a rapid charge)
could be hazardous.

 >my only other option is to buy a 1A charger.
 >also my battery hasn't been used in a while so how would i check how long i
 >need to charge for? could i use a voltmeter from a hardware store?

Sure; just measure the existing battery voltage. Fully charged
should be 13.5 volts or thereabouts. When you measure with the
charger connected and powered, this should increase (you're now seeing
the output of the charger) to aroung 14-15 volts. As the battery
nears full charge, this measurement should drop to near 13.5, since
the charger output drops as the battery charge increases (and hence
provides more resistance to further charging).

I'd highly recommend getting a cheap M/C charger; I got mine on sale
at Canadian Tire for around $8. Mine isn't fancy, and has no built
in LED charge indicator; it just looks like a large power brick, with
big alligator clips. With the low amperage output, its safe to set it
and forget it; you don't need to worry about boiling the battery dry
or overcharging. After months of disuse (like now), I usually put the
charger on and leave it go for a day or so.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 8:42 am
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A 2 amp charger won't charge at 2 amps. That just its rated max. More
likely it will charge at less than 1 amp. I've been using a two amp charger
for years on a wide range of different size batteries and never had a
problem. I can tell if a battery is fully charged by the amount of gas it
gives off. Once a battery is fully charged you will see a lot more bubbles
forming on the plates than what you see during the charging process.

A volt meter will tell you the state of charge of a battery. 12.6 volts is
fully charged, 12.3 is about 1/2. If the battery has been sitting for more
than 12 hours you can get an accurate reading however if you attempt to
measure the voltage immediately after taking the battery off charge the
voltage will be much higher. After charging I usually check the voltage the
following day just to be sure a full charge has been reached.

I charge my battereis about once per month during the off season and I
usually get 4 years or more out of my batteries.

Dave

97 BMW R1100GS
75 BMW R75/6
87 Yamaha XT350
95 Kawasaki Vulcan 500

"Kim" wrote in message

 > i have a maintenance free sealed battery.
 >
 > on the side it says standard charge .6A 5-10hours
 >
 > what i'm wondering is if charging at 2A for shorter will damage the
battery.
 >
 > my only other option is to buy a 1A charger.
 > ======================================
 > also my battery hasn't been used in a while so how would i check how long
i
 > need to charge for? could i use a voltmeter from a hardware store?
 >

 >
 >
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:04 am
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I had to do some learning about batteries several years ago when we were
building some underwater lights

I believe the power making chemistry in sealed batteries is the same as in
any lead acid battery. A different material is used to alloy the lead to
greatly reduce the water loss while charging due to gassing off, therefore
don't need topping up with water.

A battery used in a bike needs plates to be as thin as possible to give the
max surface area, therefore cranking amps, for the weight. This is 180 deg
to a "deep cycling" battery, like you'd get for your motorhome for when
you're parked. Good part is they put out high amps for their size and can
conversely accept high charge rates. Bad part is they don't like vibration
or being completely discharged. Few things are harder on these batteries
than a bike or a boat because of the vibration.

The key is to keep it charged up and not let the thing go dead. They are
very tolerant of charge rates, as long they don't get "hot" to the touch.
One of the issues addressed in the link below is the 2 different charging
techniques (current vs voltage), there's the 2 charging theories and some
other relivent info there

Bottom line: any charger you'd put on your car you can out on your bike if
it does't get the battery hot.

I keep my bike battery in the back of the fridge in winter, once a month I
put it back in the bike, startup the bike and let it run 'till it's hot, top
up the charge in the battery and put it back in the fridge.

I do this monthly startup thing also partly to keep the carbs from getting
gummed up

Some worthwhile reading here about bike batteries:
<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.yuasabatteries.com/motor_battery.asp" target="_blank">http://www.yuasabatteries.com/motor_battery.asp</a>

Hoping this is of value...

D.

"Kim" wrote in message

 > i have a maintenance free sealed battery.
 >
 > on the side it says standard charge .6A 5-10hours
 >
 > what i'm wondering is if charging at 2A for shorter will damage the
battery.
 >
 > my only other option is to buy a 1A charger.
 > ======================================
 > also my battery hasn't been used in a while so how would i check how long
i
 > need to charge for? could i use a voltmeter from a hardware store?
 >

 >
 >
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