ZZR250 bits compatability.

JL wrote:
> On Feb 5, 1:34 pm, Nigel Allen <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot
> > Does anyone know how compatible the ZZR250 is with the EX/EL/GPX/GPZ 250?
>
> > In particular I need a new ignition switch (butchered with screwdriver
> > combined with massive stupidity) and before I start ringing around the
> > wreckers I want to make sure whatever I get will fit.
>
> <paging BTH !>
>
> In the interim, I'll give you a half baked answer ! Engine wise
> they're pretty near the same as a GPX,

So far as I can tell, the only difference between the ZZR and GPX
engine is in the colour of the casings and the location of the oil
filler hole (due to the different fairings).

> different frame, different
> rims. I wouldn't be surprised if the electrics and switchgear were the
> same - they share a lot of parts but no guarantee.

Dunno, but the ZZR mufflers bolt right onto a GPX.

> GPZ is different on
> the trim so I doubt it would be. EL - yeah maybe. I suspect your
> wreckers would know...

Possibly, but my memory is getting a bit hazy now. The GPZ motor has
different internals in terms of valve sizes, etc. It's supposedly a
bit higher compression, too.

If you need a service manual, I put together one from scans of my
GPZ250+GPX250 supplement a few years ago. Google for
"GPX250Manual.PDF" and you'll probably find it - about 30MB.


BTH
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In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:34:38 +1100
Nigel Allen <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot au"> wrote:
>
> Also any recommendations for a Kwacker wreckers? I'm on the northern
> beaches of sydney but anywhere around town is fine.

metropolitan motorcycle spares in Silverwater have a fair range of
stuff, worth a try anyway.

They are pretty good about you showing up with a battered part in your
hand and saying "mind if I have a rummage to see if I can find
something like this?"

Zebee
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

Nigel Allen is of the opinion:
> Having started to work on the ZZR250 that some toe rag tried to steal
> from my daughters garage, I've discovered that the manuals are like
> rocking horse droppings.
>
> Does anyone know how compatible the ZZR250 is with the EX/EL/GPX/GPZ 250?

EX == ZZR (marketing name vs internal model name); GPx ~= ZZR (as covered
elsewhere); EL/GPz I've got no direct experience with.

> In particular I need a new ignition switch (butchered with screwdriver
> combined with massive stupidity) and before I start ringing around the
> wreckers I want to make sure whatever I get will fit.

There's very little difference in ignition barrels between most kwakka
models. I took one from my badly mangled ZZR250
(http://www.hezmatt.org/bikewreck/) and fitted it to an '82 GPz750 (wot a
classic!) without a hassle. I'd say any 80s-90s road-going Kwakka will have
a compatible barrel/plug. What will be less compatible will be the fuel
tank and helmet locks; for that, my only known compatibility is between the
ZZR250 and ZZR600 fuel tank cap -- moved the above-mentioned 250's cap to my
600 after the keys for it got stolen and I decided it was a bad move to keep
the existing locks on it when some toerag had the keys (and knew where it
lived).

> Also any recommendations for a Kwacker wreckers? I'm on the northern
> beaches of sydney but anywhere around town is fine.

Being 'gong side, I only know that the wrecker at Warrawong has all manner
of interesting parts.

- Matt
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

Matt wrote:
> ... my badly mangled ZZR250
> (http://www.hezmatt.org/bikewreck/)

Say, is that the bike I bought the mufflers off a few years ago? They
would have gotten to me via Johnnie5.

I never used them, but they were still nice and shiny.


BTH
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

BT Humble is of the opinion:
> Matt wrote:
>> ... my badly mangled ZZR250
>> (http://www.hezmatt.org/bikewreck/)
>
> Say, is that the bike I bought the mufflers off a few years ago? They
> would have gotten to me via Johnnie5.

I'm fairly certain those would have been the ones. Wouldn't have been from
me directly, though, they were stored in James' garage at the time.

> I never used them, but they were still nice and shiny.

Yeah, the bike only had 20,000km on it when it got squished. Near new.
<sob>

- Matt
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"Nigel Allen" <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot au"> wrote in message
news:47a7cb3f$0$5589$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
> Salutations!
>
> Having started to work on the ZZR250 that some toe rag tried to steal from my
> daughters garage, I've discovered that the manuals are like rocking horse
> droppings.
>
> Does anyone know how compatible the ZZR250 is with the EX/EL/GPX/GPZ 250?
>
> In particular I need a new ignition switch (butchered with screwdriver
> combined with massive stupidity) and before I start ringing around the
> wreckers I want to make sure whatever I get will fit.
>
> Also any recommendations for a Kwacker wreckers? I'm on the northern beaches
> of sydney but anywhere around town is fine.

My mate chucked his down the road the other day and it is a writeoff. All the
bits you want are intact though. Email me for his number. One problem, he is
in Perth.

Fraser
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On 6/02/2008 6:14 PM, Fraser Johnston wrote:
> "Nigel Allen" <"dna at edrs dot remove this com dot au"> wrote in message
> news:47a7cb3f$0$5589$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Salutations!
>>
>> Having started to work on the ZZR250 that some toe rag tried to steal from my
>> daughters garage, I've discovered that the manuals are like rocking horse
>> droppings.
>>
>> Does anyone know how compatible the ZZR250 is with the EX/EL/GPX/GPZ 250?
>>
>> In particular I need a new ignition switch (butchered with screwdriver
>> combined with massive stupidity) and before I start ringing around the
>> wreckers I want to make sure whatever I get will fit.
>>
>> Also any recommendations for a Kwacker wreckers? I'm on the northern beaches
>> of sydney but anywhere around town is fine.
>
> My mate chucked his down the road the other day and it is a writeoff. All the
> bits you want are intact though. Email me for his number. One problem, he is
> in Perth.
>
> Fraser
>
>

Thanks for the offer - went and got one today.

N/
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

"BT Humble" <bt_humble.RemoveThis@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:32ed7ab8-ce2f-4f11-9895-078d04991dd6@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Matt wrote:
>> ... my badly mangled ZZR250
>> (http://www.hezmatt.org/bikewreck/)
>
> Say, is that the bike I bought the mufflers off a few years ago? They
> would have gotten to me via Johnnie5.
>
> I never used them, but they were still nice and shiny.
>
Did I bring them down from James Mayfield in Parramatta?
--
Clem
(Or is this another totally invented "good samaritan" historical scenario
I've imagined to make me feel better about my largely worthless existence!)
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

Knobdoodle is of the opinion:
>
> "BT Humble" <bt_humble DeleteThis @bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:32ed7ab8-ce2f-4f11-9895-078d04991dd6@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Matt wrote:
>>> ... my badly mangled ZZR250
>>> (http://www.hezmatt.org/bikewreck/)
>>
>> Say, is that the bike I bought the mufflers off a few years ago? They
>> would have gotten to me via Johnnie5.
>>
>> I never used them, but they were still nice and shiny.
>>
> Did I bring them down from James Mayfield in Parramatta?

Aye. Them's the ones.

- Matt
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability. 

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:34:38 +1100, Nigel Allen wrote:

> Salutations!
>
> Having started to work on the ZZR250 that some toe rag tried to steal
> from my daughters garage, I've discovered that the manuals are like
> rocking horse droppings.
>

GPZ/GPZ 250 manual:
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tenoq/GPX250Manual.pdf
http://pdftown.com/Kawasaki-GPX250-Service-Manual.html

There is a zzr250 supplement
http://www.eightballmedia.com.au/zzr250/ZZ-R250%20service%20manual%20s...lement.

also skim through
http://kawasaki248.tripod.com/

Kawasaki publish the parts fiches online as well, which is very handy.

Geoff
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On 8/02/2008 7:44 PM, Geoff wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 13:34:38 +1100, Nigel Allen wrote:
>
>> Salutations!
>>
>> Having started to work on the ZZR250 that some toe rag tried to steal
>> from my daughters garage, I've discovered that the manuals are like
>> rocking horse droppings.
>>
>
> GPZ/GPZ 250 manual:
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~tenoq/GPX250Manual.pdf

Found this one before - 404's every time.

Didn't have the rest though - muy gracias.

> http://pdftown.com/Kawasaki-GPX250-Service-Manual.html
>
> There is a zzr250 supplement
> http://www.eightballmedia.com.au/zzr250/ZZ-R250%20service%20manual%20s...lement.
>
> also skim through
> http://kawasaki248.tripod.com/
>
> Kawasaki publish the parts fiches online as well, which is very handy.
>
> Geoff
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR250 bits compatability.