ZZR-250 parts compatibility '93 and '07 models

Brad W wrote:
> BT Humble <bt_hum....TakeThisOut@bigpond.com> wrote:
> >> On a somewhat related note, does anyone have an idea what pressure
> >> level/force would be required to break the chin guard on a full-face
> >> Shoei helmet? I have one here I managed to total in the same accident
> >> as the ZZR above. There's a rather large full-length crack in the chin
> >> guard which goes all the way through the shell.
>
> > Lots. Did you break your nose in the process? I did.
>
> Not my nose no, thankfully. I did manage fractures/punctures/tears to left
> occipital condyle (neck); base of skull; lower back; 12 or 14 ribs; 2
> lungs; LeFort I and II (face); subdural haematoma; liver and other
> assorted abdominals and a bunch of other things.
>
> I don't think much of that came from the fall... rather from the semi-
> trailer running over my head and chest a second or so later. I'm pretty
> sure that's what snapped the helmet chin guard and am trying to figure out
> how much force was applied. Pics of the helmet for those who are
> interested:http://picasaweb.google.com.au/Bradley.Webb/AccidentTheAftermath

You win.


BTH
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Brad W wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm considering taking a whole bunch of parts from an '07 ZZR-250
> (written off) and bolting the good bits onto a '93 ZZR-250. As far as
> I can tell everything should "just work" (same shop manual for both
> etc) however I'm not 100% sure and I figured asking around can't hurt.
>
> Is anyone aware of any potential issues/incompatabilities? The wreck
> will cost me some $ to attain so I'm hoping to find out if this is
> doable prior to it becoming available.
>
> On a somewhat related note, does anyone have an idea what pressure
> level/force would be required to break the chin guard on a full-face
> Shoei helmet? I have one here I managed to total in the same accident
> as the ZZR above. There's a rather large full-length crack in the chin
> guard which goes all the way through the shell.

About the ZZR-250s, dunno.

The Australian Standard covering crash helmets, doesn't actually have
any definition of the strength or robustness of the chin piece of a full
face helmet.

The fact that it cracked, and you are still about to post shows that it
did it's job.

The force involved would have been surprisingly little, assuming you
haven't got a broken neck.

regards,
CrazyCam
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BT Humble <bt_humble.TakeThisOut@bigpond.com> wrote:

> The 2007 model may have slightly different carburettors with de-icing
> pipework connecting them to the engine's water jacket (I saw a
> relatively late-model GPX250 with that fitted a few years ago).

I'm hoping to take the entire engine and most of the other mechanicals
across wholesale: the wreck only had 1700K on it. Hopefully any
differences will be small ones which don't impact on the plan. The whole
thing will be a learning experience (mechanically minded? Who me?) but hey
I have the time right now if nothing else.

>> On a somewhat related note, does anyone have an idea what pressure
>> level/force would be required to break the chin guard on a full-face
>> Shoei helmet? I have one here I managed to total in the same accident
>> as the ZZR above. There's a rather large full-length crack in the chin
>> guard which goes all the way through the shell.
>
> Lots. Did you break your nose in the process? I did.

Not my nose no, thankfully. I did manage fractures/punctures/tears to left
occipital condyle (neck); base of skull; lower back; 12 or 14 ribs; 2
lungs; LeFort I and II (face); subdural haematoma; liver and other
assorted abdominals and a bunch of other things.

I don't think much of that came from the fall... rather from the semi-
trailer running over my head and chest a second or so later. I'm pretty
sure that's what snapped the helmet chin guard and am trying to figure out
how much force was applied. Pics of the helmet for those who are
interested:
http://picasaweb.google.com.au/Bradley.Webb/AccidentTheAftermath
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR-250 parts compatibility '93 and '07 models 

Youch. take the opportunity to get a Nolan N102.. ?

So if someone ever asks if you got hit by a truck, you can say yes ?

Brad W wrote:
> BT Humble <bt_humble DeleteThis @bigpond.com> wrote:

> I don't think much of that came from the fall... rather from the semi-
> trailer running over my head and chest a second or so later. I'm pretty
> sure that's what snapped the helmet chin guard and am trying to figure out
> how much force was applied. Pics of the helmet for those who are
> interested:
> http://picasaweb.google.com.au/Bradley.Webb/AccidentTheAftermath
>
 >> Stay informed about: ZZR-250 parts compatibility '93 and '07 models 

"Fraser Johnston" <ftrust.RemoveThis@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>> I don't think much of that came from the fall... rather from the semi-
>> trailer running over my head and chest a second or so later. I'm pretty
>> sure that's what snapped the helmet chin guard and am trying to figure out
>> how much force was applied. Pics of the helmet for those who are
>> interested:
>> http://picasaweb.google.com.au/Bradley.Webb/AccidentTheAftermath
>
> That is exactly the same as my helmet. I'm feeling much better about wearing
> it now that I know it can handle a truck running over it.

Not the entire truck, just the rear wheel bogie on a trailer attached to a dump
truck. Similar to the trailer seen here:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=275_1190800481

Had I gone under the front (vis "use ya mirrors" video) or had the truck been
loaded, I'm pretty sure the helmet would have either collapsed or been rendered
moot anyway.

--Brad
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"Brad W" <unkown@xnntp> wrote in message
news:E404473C-E1D8-450D-81F0-4F988588386B%Xnntp@beta05.com...

> I don't think much of that came from the fall... rather from the semi-
> trailer running over my head and chest a second or so later. I'm pretty
> sure that's what snapped the helmet chin guard and am trying to figure out
> how much force was applied. Pics of the helmet for those who are
> interested:
> http://picasaweb.google.com.au/Bradley.Webb/AccidentTheAftermath

That is exactly the same as my helmet. I'm feeling much better about wearing
it now that I know it can handle a truck running over it.

Fraser
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