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peter_moss

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:55 pm
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OK. Here's a Q.

You know those yellow signs on the hwy's ( I'm in BC, but they're probably
an all over the place...) which advise you to merge, watch for deer, look
out for a bump,.... that kind of stuff.

They seem to be offering "advice", as opposed to informing you that there is
something you have do right or you will get a ticket. In contrast are things
like posted speed limits, no left turn, etc. Those things are always on
white signs.

So.....why do they put the "slow to xx" for corners and "exit speed = xx" on
yellow signs? Are you obliged to obey these?

There never seems to be a clearly defined zone for these signs, eg you will
never see a "resume speed" after a bend in the road, or any indication of
where the start and end of an "exit" are.

Anyways, how could you charge someone with "not watching out for deer"...
etc?

I haven't had a ticket for this, but someone at work got a ticket for going
too fast on an exit ramp, ie faster than the yellow sign posted. The feeling
was generally that he was not exceding the last properly posted speed limit,
and not following the advice of the yellow exit speed sign was his decision
and he should fight it.

Tried poking around a bit but didn't get any satifactory information.

Does anyone have the scoop on this? I'd like to know myself.

D.

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Cam Penner

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:55 pm
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In article <jdtpe.41878$HI.30162@edtnps84>,
peter_moss.RemoveThis@telme.net says...
 > OK. Here's a Q.
 >
 > You know those yellow signs on the hwy's ( I'm in BC, but they're probably
 > an all over the place...) which advise you to merge, watch for deer, look
 > out for a bump,.... that kind of stuff.

Yup.

 > They seem to be offering "advice", as opposed to informing you that there is
 > something you have do right or you will get a ticket. In contrast are things
 > like posted speed limits, no left turn, etc. Those things are always on
 > white signs.

Yup.

 > So.....why do they put the "slow to xx" for corners and "exit speed = xx" on
 > yellow signs? Are you obliged to obey these?

Nope. White sign - black letters - legal obligation.
Yellow sign - recommended speed.

Source - BC Riders handbook, published by ICBC. Backed up
by a Riding Instructor teaching a class.

If you'll notice - even the yellow playground signs have a
white and black sign underneath with the speed.

 > There never seems to be a clearly defined zone for these signs, eg you will
 > never see a "resume speed" after a bend in the road, or any indication of
 > where the start and end of an "exit" are.
 >
 > Anyways, how could you charge someone with "not watching out for deer"...
 > etc?

"Driving without due care and attention."

 > I haven't had a ticket for this, but someone at work got a ticket for going
 > too fast on an exit ramp, ie faster than the yellow sign posted. The feeling
 > was generally that he was not exceding the last properly posted speed limit,
 > and not following the advice of the yellow exit speed sign was his decision
 > and he should fight it.

Driving too fast for conditions is always a fallback. That
can happen below the posted limits and at the discretion of
the officer on the scene.

 > Tried poking around a bit but didn't get any satifactory information.
 >
 > Does anyone have the scoop on this? I'd like to know myself.

Look no further than the booklets they give you when
learning to drive/ride.

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Cam
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Graham Reed

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:15 pm
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Cam Penner <cam.pennerATpleasedontspamgoldmedalsystems.com.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> writes:
 > In article <jdtpe.41878$HI.30162@edtnps84>,
 > peter_moss.TakeThisOut@telme.net says...
  >> So.....why do they put the "slow to xx" for corners and "exit speed = xx" on
  >> yellow signs? Are you obliged to obey these?
 >
 > Nope. White sign - black letters - legal obligation.
 > Yellow sign - recommended speed.

Same in Ontario.

Only thing is, you'll see signs in the wrong colours. I've seen
"TURNING TRAFFIC MUST YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS" in yellow. (That's not
what the law says, of course--anything but a directional green arrow
and turning traffic must yield.)

When they did tear-down and rebuild of a little-used tail end of the
freeway near me, I got on the mailing list for the meetings. Several
times it came up that the city Roads & Traffic department had put up
either an illegal sign or a statement of law in warning colours.

(For example, there's a by-law that says the speed limit on this
particular freeway is always 90 km/h; they'd put the 60 km/h limit at
the top of the ramp. Well, that's still part of the freeway--you
can't legally put a 60 km/h limit sign there. They changed it to a
RAMP 60 sign in yellow.)

So you're still best to know the rules of the road, because you can't
rely on the the sign departments. I'd say 95% of the signage is OK,
but you sure don't want to disobey a yellow sign that's a statement of
law.

(And for people who wonder, you still have to yield to pedestrians
even if there isn't a sign saying so--just like (in Toronto) you can't
block an intersection even if there isn't a grid painted on it. And
you can't run a red light even if there's no camera....)

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