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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:32 pm
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Let's see this is an experiment. I need a new motorcycle. I made the
deal with myself when I quit smoking I could have one. Now I've quit and I
want all the opinions I can get all the angles covered. What do you suggest
I buy? And what are your reasons?

Steve

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OK, Don't cheat and say you've quit after a few days. I think it takes about
5 months before you stop counting the months and days it has been. I started
again after 9 months because I thought I had it beat and could have one once
in a while. It took me another year to quit. You can never have another.

Now for my opinion on a bike.
Consider what you want in a bike. Ideally, these are the things one would
like in any bike but you can't get them in every bike so you have to decide
what you want the most and what you want to do with the bike.


1) good soft comfortable adjustable suspension. Most bikes have adjustable
suspensions but the adjustments make zero difference because there is too
little travel in the it. To tour for hours each day for a few weeks, you
must have comfort.

2) loud pipes to attract people to look at your bike and admire the chrome
and the stud driving it. Although this may sound nice on a short city trip,
this becomes annoying on a long trip.

3) lots of chrome. OK so everyone likes that. But, if you go to a show and
shine, you see lots of chrome and they all look alike.

4) comfortable seating. I found that if you have a sport bike you are
basically sitting on your privates and that isn't too comfortable for me but
it does help distribute your weight off your butt and onto your arms.
Depending on your body, this may develop sore shoulders, elbows and wrists.
Also you are sitting in such a way that your neck is always arched up to
hold your head in a position to see where you are going.
If you are on a cruiser with your feet way out in front, every time you hit
a bump your back gets the full brunt of it and the suspension on those
things is usually no hell.
The touring bike is upright with feet below your seat so you can stiffen
your knees for any bumps. Usually big plush seats.

5) wind, rain, stone and bug protection. The sport bikes are pretty good for
all of these if they have a bit of a fairing because you are right down low
and really close to the windshield.
The cruisers are for tough guys and have no windshield, that's for sissies
Wink If you try and add one, the windshield protects you from bugs and
stones but the wind buffets your head pretty badly.
The touring bike's fairing will actually keep you dry at highway speeds in
the rain and the wind buffeting isn't as bad as the cruiser because the
presence of the windshield is built into the design of the bike.

6) cargo space is a must even if you just want to go to the grocery store or
carry an extra helmet. Most bikes can have it but the cruisers often have
the leather ones which aren't lockable and they often leak in the rain and
won't carry a helmet.

7) do you want to take a passenger? They need some comfort too.

I started back into biking about 5 years ago and went from a sport to a
cruiser to a touring trying to find what I wanted. I settled on a touring
bike because I want to travel most of all but I also want a bike that looks
nice and is a bit different than all the others. I ended up with an old
Yamaha Venture.

Wayne Jones
86 Venture

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"Steve and Sarah" <sandskrieger.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.sasktel.net> wrote in message
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> Let's see this is an experiment. I need a new motorcycle. I made the
> deal with myself when I quit smoking I could have one. Now I've quit and
> I want all the opinions I can get all the angles covered. What do you
> suggest I buy? And what are your reasons?
>
> Steve
>
>

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 5:09 pm
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"Wayne" <wrjones RemoveThis @newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> OK, Don't cheat and say you've quit after a few days. I think it takes
> about 5 months before you stop counting the months and days it has been. I
> started again after 9 months because I thought I had it beat and could
> have one once in a while. It took me another year to quit. You can never
> have another.

I agree completely....it seems to be all about attitude and a constant
thought that no matter what I'm just not going to have even one puff. No
cheating here Smile

> Now for my opinion on a bike.
> Consider what you want in a bike. Ideally, these are the things one would
> like in any bike but you can't get them in every bike so you have to
> decide what you want the most and what you want to do with the bike.
>
>
> 1) good soft comfortable adjustable suspension. Most bikes have adjustable
> suspensions but the adjustments make zero difference because there is too
> little travel in the it. To tour for hours each day for a few weeks, you
> must have comfort.

Yeah the only problem is how do I know how long I can ride said bike? I've
found it's going to be a little hard to get an extended test ride on a new
bike.

> 2) loud pipes to attract people to look at your bike and admire the
> chrome and the stud driving it. Although this may sound nice on a short
> city trip, this becomes annoying on a long trip.

Nope not what I want at all.

> 3) lots of chrome. OK so everyone likes that. But, if you go to a show and
> shine, you see lots of chrome and they all look alike.

Nope my favorite color is black and chrome just doesn't do it for me.

> 7) do you want to take a passenger? They need some comfort too.

The wife says she won't ride behind me Sad

> I started back into biking about 5 years ago and went from a sport to a
> cruiser to a touring trying to find what I wanted. I settled on a touring
> bike because I want to travel most of all but I also want a bike that
> looks nice and is a bit different than all the others. I ended up with an
> old Yamaha Venture.
>
> Wayne Jones
> 86 Venture

I'm really into speed. I love the adrenaline rush of fast cornering but I
have also ridden 3 days straight with my parents. One of my fondest
memories growing up:)

Steve
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:47 pm
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In article <12kn69vt19ea99a RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
"Steve and Sarah" <sandskrieger RemoveThis @NOSPAM.sasktel.net> wrote:

> Let's see this is an experiment. I need a new motorcycle. I made the
> deal with myself when I quit smoking I could have one. Now I've quit and I
> want all the opinions I can get all the angles covered. What do you suggest
> I buy? And what are your reasons?
>
> Steve

-What kind of riding do you like to do?
-Do you like a upright riding position or do you like to hug the tank
(weight forward)?
-Do you go for long rides or just zip around town?
-Are you looking to impress your friends or enjoy the ride (butt jewelry
vs. maneuverability)?
-How many riders most of the time (one up vs. two up)?
-Do you ride with groups often? What do the others ride?
-How long have you been riding?
-How tall and heavy are you?
-What's the biggest, heaviest, bike you've had an opportunity to get
accustomed to?
and lastly
-How fat is your wallet?

This is a true story.
I was in a bike shop in Richmond, BC a couple of years ago. A young
lady of oriental descent (perhaps 90 lbs. soaking wet) came in with her
daddy's credit card, looking for a motorcycle. The first thing she did
was to go over to the one piece leather riding suits and find one that
she fitted and liked. Then she picked out a helmet that color
coordinated with the suit. It was a bright and colorful combination.
Then she took it down the line of new bikes and bought the bike that
looked best with the gear. I don't think she even sat on it. The
salesman obviously knew that she had money. He never asked a single
question and just wrote up the paperwork. I don't believe she had ever
been in that shop before. Now, that the way to buy a bike!

About a month latter, I was in that bike shop again and she was at the
parts counter getting a fancy exhaust and a few other accessories. The
bill came to over three thousand dollars. Her answer was "just put it
on my dad's account. I was amazed that she was still alive!

Ride safe Wink
Serge
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"Serge" <serge DeleteThis @spamagnet.com> wrote in message > -What kind of riding do you
like to do?

Sport, fast, wish I was on a track.<BFG>

> -Do you like a upright riding position or do you like to hug the tank
> (weight forward)?

I do enjoy the aggressive riding position but I also like being able to
relax and enjoy the scenery occasionally.

> -Do you go for long rides or just zip around town?

Mostly short because of the kid at home and one bike for three people.

> -Are you looking to impress your friends or enjoy the ride (butt jewelry
> vs. maneuverability)?

I could care less about what my friends think really.

> -How many riders most of the time (one up vs. two up)?

one only Sad

> -Do you ride with groups often? What do the others ride?
Not as much as I 'd like, but when I do, they ride crotch rockets
exclusively.

> -How long have you been riding?

20 years in total. 16 on the highway so far.

> -How tall and heavy are you?

five feet eight, one fifty.

> -What's the biggest, heaviest, bike you've had an > opportunity to
> get accustomed to?

That's gotta be the Katana, I think. Just a shade over 400 lbs, wet.

> and lastly
> -How fat is your wallet?

I'm not worried about money right now. Just which bike. I'll work out the
money part later. Wink



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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:56 pm
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On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:32:15 -0600, "Steve and Sarah"
<sandskrieger.TakeThisOut@NOSPAM.sasktel.net> wrote:

> Let's see this is an experiment. I need a new motorcycle. I made the
>deal with myself when I quit smoking I could have one. Now I've quit and I
>want all the opinions I can get all the angles covered. What do you suggest
>I buy? And what are your reasons?
>
> Steve
>
>


Considering our roads in Saskatchewan, I would go with a sport-touring
bike or a semi-faired standard that's sportbike based. Sportbikes are
fine for buzzing around town on short rips, but for anything longer on
the open road they don't work so well. Same goes for cruisers, in my
opinion.

Were I bike shopping right now, could buy anything I wanted, and could
only have one bike, something like a Yamaha FZ1 would be it.
Semi-faired for open road wind protection, upright riding position for
comfort (slight forward lean), and monster engine, decent suspension
and brakes for when you want to crank things up a notch and get your
lean on.


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:07 pm
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Brent Mooney <great.white.RemoveThis@north.com> wrote in message
> Considering our roads in Saskatchewan, I would go with a sport-touring
> bike or a semi-faired standard that's sportbike based. Sportbikes are
> fine for buzzing around town on short rips, but for anything longer on
> the open road they don't work so well. Same goes for cruisers, in my
> opinion.

Have you rode a sport-bike for a long trip? Say 5 hours in a day? Is
that a long trip to you?

> Were I bike shopping right now, could buy anything I wanted, and could
> only have one bike, something like a Yamaha FZ1 would be it.
> Semi-faired for open road wind protection, upright riding position for
> comfort (slight forward lean), and monster engine, decent suspension
> and brakes for when you want to crank things up a notch and get your
> lean on.
>
When you wrote get your lean on I got an instant smile Very Happy
I think you've got a good view on the choices being as you and I are in the
flatlands but I've seen a Hyabusa with Quebec plates rolling through toon
town so it must not be too torturous to ride em for a long time right?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:03 am
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Most bikes are babied and shined and if you look for a decent used one, you
will get several good years out of it. It's not becessary to spend a bundle.
I bought a used Goldwing for a 1 month trip to Utah plus a few more trips.
It was a very low mileage 3 year old bike for $19k.
After a year with it, I never got over a feeling of having spent a lot of
the family's savings on a toy that I could only use a few months a year. I
sold it for only 1,000 less than I paid for it and bought a 20 year old
Yamaha venture. It runs as well and is as comfortable as the Goldwing and I
don't feel guilty. Also, You don't worry about every little thing because
it's so new and expensive. A small scratch isn't the end of the world.
Wayne
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:49 am
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> Have you rode a sport-bike for a long trip? Say 5 hours in a
day? Is
> that a long trip to you?

Well I rode my F4i to Newfoundland and back from Ontario. Let me tell
you, the final day of riding we rode non-stop from Moncton back to
Ottawa. 6am to 8:30pm... My ass felt like I just went to prison.. I
could hardly walk at the end of the day. Sore neck, and tingling
throttle hand, tired feet... Not good at all. The ride turned into a
challenge. My friend on his (slightly more plush) CBR experienced
pretty much the same thing.

The CBR was made sort of "touringish" by adding:
- throttle rocker - helps keep the throttle hand awake a bit longer
- Chase Harper saddlebags - small, but make a good platform for my...
- dufflebag and bungee cords
- a magnetic tank bag

A my bike is fine for about 2-3 hours of riding and then it gets to be a
bit of a chore... although most of that 2-3 hours has to be on the
highway at 80km/h plus or else my arms will get tired too holding up my
body weight. An occasional blast in the city is fine though.

But I do love it for trackdays...even the hard seat is nice in this
environment.

I am moving towards a dedicated track bike and a more
comfortable/utilitarian/low-maintenance (ie shaft drive) ride for my
daily driving.

cya
Sean
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My brother has the DRZ400... he says its wicked fun for short trips, but
only up to about 90km/h.... It can go faster but, the lack of wind
protection really limits it. Well I guess the smallish motor too. Very Happy

cya
Sean


> Mostly short because of the kid at home and one bike for three people.
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Steve and Sarah wrote:
> "Serge" <serge.TakeThisOut@spamagnet.com> wrote in message > -What kind of riding do you
> like to do?
>
> Sport, fast, wish I was on a track.<BFG>
>
>> -Do you like a upright riding position or do you like to hug the tank
>> (weight forward)?
>
> I do enjoy the aggressive riding position but I also like being able to
> relax and enjoy the scenery occasionally.
>
>> -Do you go for long rides or just zip around town?
>
> Mostly short because of the kid at home and one bike for three people.
>
>> -Are you looking to impress your friends or enjoy the ride (butt jewelry
>> vs. maneuverability)?
>
> I could care less about what my friends think really.
>
>> -How many riders most of the time (one up vs. two up)?
>
> one only Sad
>
>> -Do you ride with groups often? What do the others ride?
> Not as much as I 'd like, but when I do, they ride crotch rockets
> exclusively.
>
>> -How long have you been riding?
>
> 20 years in total. 16 on the highway so far.
>
>> -How tall and heavy are you?
>
> five feet eight, one fifty.
>
>> -What's the biggest, heaviest, bike you've had an > opportunity to
>> get accustomed to?
>
> That's gotta be the Katana, I think. Just a shade over 400 lbs, wet.
>
>> and lastly
>> -How fat is your wallet?
>
> I'm not worried about money right now. Just which bike. I'll work out the
> money part later. Wink
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
I'm gonna say it (no throwing things, please!) A VFR750/800... fun and
a bit of comfort too.

(Although a Buell Ulysses might be fun to try too.)

Smile

cya
Sean
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:23 am
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"Wayne" <wrjones.RemoveThis@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> Most bikes are babied and shined and if you look for a decent used one,
> you will get several good years out of it. It's not becessary to spend a
> bundle.
> I bought a used Goldwing for a 1 month trip to Utah plus a few more trips.
> It was a very low mileage 3 year old bike for $19k.
> After a year with it, I never got over a feeling of having spent a lot of
> the family's savings on a toy that I could only use a few months a year. I
> sold it for only 1,000 less than I paid for it and bought a 20 year old
> Yamaha venture. It runs as well and is as comfortable as the Goldwing and
> I don't feel guilty. Also, You don't worry about every little thing
> because it's so new and expensive. A small scratch isn't the end of the
> world.
> Wayne
Yeah I hear you. Hoave you ever had a brand new anything?
I haven't.

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"rendell" <felloffmybike RemoveThis @and.crashed.com> wrote in message
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> I'm gonna say it (no throwing things, please!) A VFR750/800... fun and
> a bit of comfort too.
>
> (Although a Buell Ulysses might be fun to try too.)
>
> Smile
>
> cya
> Sean

Don't worry about gettin' hit. The VFR was voted the best all-round
bike for about ten years! Smile It might be the winner in the end. Money,
etc. may play a part. I'd like to ride one around for a bit.

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"rendell" <felloffmybike RemoveThis @and.crashed.com> wrote in message
> Well I rode my F4i to Newfoundland and back from Ontario. Let me tell
> you, the final day of riding we rode non-stop from Moncton back to
> Ottawa. 6am to 8:30pm... My ass felt like I just went to prison.

When I used to ride with my dad that was what he always had to stop for.
"Ass break" I find in the beginning of the season I get sore but by the time
June 1st rolls in I'm good for a long time.

> I could hardly walk at the end of the day. Sore neck, and tingling
> throttle hand, tired feet... Not good at all. The ride turned into a
> challenge. My friend on his (slightly more plush) CBR experienced
> pretty much the same thing.
>
> The CBR was made sort of "touringish" by adding:
> - throttle rocker - helps keep the throttle hand awake a bit longer
> - Chase Harper saddlebags - small, but make a good platform for my...
> - dufflebag and bungee cords
> - a magnetic tank bag
>
> A my bike is fine for about 2-3 hours of riding and then it gets to be a
> bit of a chore... although most of that 2-3 hours has to be on the
> highway at 80km/h plus or else my arms will get tired too holding up my
> body weight. An occasional blast in the city is fine though.
>
> But I do love it for trackdays...even the hard seat is nice in this
> environment.
>
> I am moving towards a dedicated track bike and a more
> comfortable/utilitarian/low-maintenance (ie shaft drive) ride for my
> daily driving.

SHAFT DRIVE!! Wink

> cya
> Sean

I forgot you had been on the long ride to Newfie-land. Now not to be
offensive but Suzuki has always had better seats than everyone else. It's
one of the reasons I've always rode Suzi since the first time.
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"Steve and Sarah" <sandskrieger.DeleteThis@NOSPAM.sasktel.net> wrote in message
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>> pretty much the same thing.
Now not to be
> offensive but Suzuki has always had better seats than everyone else. It's
> one of the reasons I've always rode Suzi since the first time.
> Steve


Maybe everyone's behind is different but I had 2 Suzuki's
a YZ800 sport whose seat I could only tolerate for about an hour at a time.
Then I had a Suzuki Volusia cruiser and I had to buy a Mustang seat because
the stock seat was intolerable. It wasn't only me too because a friend had
the same bike and also upgraded his seat

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