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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:54 pm
Post subject: WRB inflicted injuries
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Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
offered free counselling.
Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt
it was important to consider the wider public.
http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
Nev..
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:54 pm
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I am really dubious when the police report "high speed" incidences
and don't give an estimation of the speed.
I don't know about Tasmanian police, but SAPOL like to boast (in
their
wipe-off-5 propaganda ad's.. which are making the rounds again)
about how accurately they can calculate vehicle speeds in accidents.
What do they call "high speed" anyway ? 1 kay over the limit ? |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:54 pm
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<fred.kroft DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>I am really dubious when the police report "high speed" incidences
> and don't give an estimation of the speed.
>
> I don't know about Tasmanian police, but SAPOL like to boast (in
> their
> wipe-off-5 propaganda ad's.. which are making the rounds again)
> about how accurately they can calculate vehicle speeds in accidents.
>
> What do they call "high speed" anyway ? 1 kay over the limit ?
>
I dunno that road but if it 100 kph then I'm sure that riding into the
slice-and-dice even 1kmh UNDER is gonna' be bad news!!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:05 am
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Glad to see they offered "free" counsilling. Heaven forbid should the public
have to pay for counsilling for witnessing a death which may have not
occured but for WRB.
"Nev.." <idiot.RemoveThis@mindless.com> wrote in message
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> Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
> suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
> offered free counselling.
>
> Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
> horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
> offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
> emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered counselling
> to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt it was
> important to consider the wider public.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>
> Nev..
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:01 am
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The counselling may just involve one of those memory devices on Men In
Black..
Madeyes wrote:
> Glad to see they offered "free" counsilling. Heaven forbid should the public
> have to pay for counsilling for witnessing a death which may have not
> occured but for WRB.
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> "Nev.." <idiot RemoveThis @mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:478301f8$0$11997$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
>> suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
>> offered free counselling.
>>
>> Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
>> horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
>> offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
>> emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered counselling
>> to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt it was
>> important to consider the wider public.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>>
>> Nev..
>> '04 CBR1100XX
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:01 am
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"Yeebers" <yeeb.RemoveThis@yeeb.yeeb> wrote in message
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> The counselling may just involve one of those memory devices on Men In
> Black..
>
What about the services offerred in Total Recall?
Cheers,
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:27 am
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Come *on*, Dale. It's not on Mars that we're talking about .. 
Dale Porter wrote:
> "Yeebers" <yeeb RemoveThis @yeeb.yeeb> wrote in message
> news:47845cb1@news.comindico.com.au...
>> The counselling may just involve one of those memory devices on Men In
>> Black..
>>
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>
> What about the services offerred in Total Recall?
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> Cheers,
> Dale.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:27 am
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Nev.. wrote:
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> Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
> suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
> offered free counselling.
>
> Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
> horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
> offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
> emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
> counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt
> it was important to consider the wider public.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>
> Nev..
> '04 CBR1100XX
How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
I feel for the Family & witnesses, But I con't condone exccesive
speeding either. And nor do I agree to WRB being used.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:27 am
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Aido wrote:
> Nev.. wrote:
>>
>> Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
>> suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
>> offered free counselling.
>>
>> Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
>> horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
>> offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
>> emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
>> counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash
>> felt it was important to consider the wider public.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>>
>> Nev..
>> '04 CBR1100XX
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> How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
> the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
I had an off at about 120kph and the bike ended up about 200 metres from
where the off began... not necessarily sliding all the way, but in the
case in Devonport they'd probably be measuring from the first sign of
loss of control to the final location of the bike. You wouldn't imaging
it would be sliding all the way either.. even at 100kph the bike is
going to travel a fair way in an 'out of control' state before it even
begins to slide.
Nev..
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:57 pm
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On Jan 9, 9:10 pm, Aido <cb600shor... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Nev.. wrote:
>
> > Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
> > suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
> > offered free counselling.
>
> > Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
> > horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
> > offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
> > emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
> > counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt
> > it was important to consider the wider public.
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>
> > Nev..
> > '04 CBR1100XX
>
> How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
> the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
> I feel for the Family & witnesses, But I con't condone exccesive
> speeding either. And nor do I agree to WRB being used.
The sides of a motorcycle have a quite low co-efficient of friction
compared to rubber under brakes ! Depends on what bike it was but 200
meters is quite possible from less than 100K particularly if the road
was wet.
I had an off at 30-40K and the bike slid well over 50m before it
collected the gutter (wet bitumen, grabbed a handful of front at age
16 on Ls and went arse over)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:37 pm
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On Jan 10, 9:57 am, JL <jlitt....DeleteThis@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 9:10 pm, Aido <cb600shor....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Nev.. wrote:
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> > > Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
> > > suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
> > > offered free counselling.
>
> > > Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
> > > horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
> > > offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
> > > emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
> > > counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt
> > > it was important to consider the wider public.
>
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
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> > > Nev..
> > > '04 CBR1100XX
>
> > How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
> > the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
> > I feel for the Family & witnesses, But I con't condone exccesive
> > speeding either. And nor do I agree to WRB being used.
>
> The sides of a motorcycle have a quite low co-efficient of friction
> compared to rubber under brakes ! Depends on what bike it was but 200
> meters is quite possible from less than 100K particularly if the road
> was wet.
>
> I had an off at 30-40K and the bike slid well over 50m before it
> collected the gutter (wet bitumen, grabbed a handful of front at age
> 16 on Ls and went arse over)
>
> JL- Hide quoted text -
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:39 pm
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And who says the bike SLID 214 metres? It may still have been on its
wheels for some part of that distance before falling over.
Remember the bike at PI a few years ago running upright and riderless
down the main straight in flames before it went rubber side up?
Admittedly it did bounce off the pit wall, but it stayed on its
wheels.
SteveB
On Jan 10, 9:57 am, JL <jlitt... RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Jan 9, 9:10 pm, Aido <cb600shor... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Nev.. wrote:
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> > > Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
> > > suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
> > > offered free counselling.
> > >http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
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> > > Nev..
> > > '04 CBR1100XX
>
> > How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
> > the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
> > I feel for the Family & witnesses, But I con't condone exccesive
> > speeding either. And nor do I agree to WRB being used.
>
> The sides of a motorcycle have a quite low co-efficient of friction
> compared to rubber under brakes ! Depends on what bike it was but 200
> meters is quite possible from less than 100K particularly if the road
> was wet.
>
> I had an off at 30-40K and the bike slid well over 50m before it
> collected the gutter (wet bitumen, grabbed a handful of front at age
> 16 on Ls and went arse over)
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:25 am
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On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:37:52 -0800 (PST), sstrik <sstrik RemoveThis @dodo.com.au>
wrote:
>On Jan 10, 9:57 am, JL <jlitt... RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 9, 9:10 pm, Aido <cb600shor... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > Nev.. wrote:
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>> > > Seems that a rider who crashed into a wire rope barrier near Devonport
>> > > suffered such gruesome injuries that witnesses to the crash have been
>> > > offered free counselling.
>>
>> > > Officers labelled the crash the worst they had attended due to ... the
>> > > horrific nature of the man's injuries. In an unusual move, police have
>> > > offered counselling to drivers who witnessed the crash as well as
>> > > emergency service workers. He said police usually only offered
>> > > counselling to family members but due to the severity of the crash felt
>> > > it was important to consider the wider public.
>>
>> > >http://tinyurl.com/2x7hfq
>>
>> > > Nev..
>> > > '04 CBR1100XX
>>
>> > How fast was he going for the bike to slide another 214 meters? Surely
>> > the bike wouldn't have slid that far if he was only doing 110kmh.
>> > I feel for the Family & witnesses, But I con't condone exccesive
>> > speeding either. And nor do I agree to WRB being used.
>>
>> The sides of a motorcycle have a quite low co-efficient of friction
>> compared to rubber under brakes ! Depends on what bike it was but 200
>> meters is quite possible from less than 100K particularly if the road
>> was wet.
>>
>> I had an off at 30-40K and the bike slid well over 50m before it
>> collected the gutter (wet bitumen, grabbed a handful of front at age
>> 16 on Ls and went arse over)
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>> JL- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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>Did you learn anything from it?
Must haved, he is still with us
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