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Larry xlax Lovisone

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:15 pm
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Unchain my bike... or so I thought...

Hans Renold is credited with inventing roller chain in 1880... but
here we are 127 years later and bikes are still laboring under a
steely... heavy... clanky... messy... chain... Mercy me chains are a
pain... belts spell relief... and so my belt drive conversion starts
with an engineering drawing...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_26197.jpg

Gates Poly Chain comes in 3 belt sizes... 14mm pitch is what HD
employs on their cruisers... 8mm is what I used on the VF500
Belt-0-Ceptor... 11mm is the little known in between belt but only
comes in lengths of 155T and 172T... I need 166T to make it work on
Mr.RC45...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_3294.jpg

I started with a Buell 11mm pitch sprockets and belt... a 30T up
front and 70T out back... they were machined them to fit Mr.RC45...
so far so good

Buell's steel 30T 11mm spocket installed on the RC45 primary shaft...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_45790.jpg

Buell's aluminum 72T 11mm sprocket installed on the RC45 axle...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_18651.jpg

Ideally I needed 628mm between centers as evident with Mr.RC45's 17T
43T 110 links of chain prove to show...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_100085.jpg

But when I added the Buell 30T 72T 155T setup it measured 561mm
between centers... 67mm too short...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_84588.jpg

Next I ordered a 172 tooth belt from BMW but with the Buell sprockets
the BMW belt was 664mm between centers... 36mm too long...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_60739.jpg


Maybe if I machine my own 76T sprocket so I started with a 20lb block
of 7075 T6 Aluminum...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_62149.jpg


After the teeth were cut by RCD Engineering the block was down to 10
lbs at this stage...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_496.jpg

After milling the spokes using only hand eye coordination it was down
to 1 lb 13 oz...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_52808.jpg

Now with the Buell 30T sprocket 172T BMW belt and 76T home made
sprocket the distance between centers was 651mm... 23mm too long...
because of the single sided swing arm I limited to 20mm adjustment so
I knew it would be close... how close??? less than 3mm or .118
thousands of an inch separates success from failure...

http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_80322.jpg

I have failed to unchain Mr.RC45... not that I didn't come close... I
came within 3mm of enjoying a light weight... maintenance free...
snatch free... lubeless belt drive system... it all came down to
finding the right number of teeth in a 11mm pitch belt... and so with
only 2 bikes in the world that employ the 11mm pitch belt (2003 Buell
and the 2007 BMW 800) I have to wait for a 3rd bike to employ the
little known 11mm pitch Poly Chain Belt...

So in conclusion after $1000 dollars in parts and a custom 7075 T6
aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I have
NO joy to report... in fact I'm devastated and sad... not to mention
Gates Rubber wants $65K for the mold of a custom 166T 11mm pitch
belt...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:12 pm
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Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:
> a custom 7075 T6
> aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I have
> NO joy to report...

Larry, after getting your sprocket cut from a block, how the heck could
you have spent 30 days milling the spokes into it without test-fitting
it with the belt on the bike first?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:44 pm
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Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:
> Unchain my bike... or so I thought...
>
> Hans Renold is credited with inventing roller chain in 1880... but
> here we are 127 years later and bikes are still laboring under a
> steely... heavy... clanky... messy... chain... Mercy me chains are a
> pain... belts spell relief... and so my belt drive conversion starts
> with an engineering drawing...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_26197.jpg
>
> Gates Poly Chain comes in 3 belt sizes... 14mm pitch is what HD
> employs on their cruisers... 8mm is what I used on the VF500
> Belt-0-Ceptor... 11mm is the little known in between belt but only
> comes in lengths of 155T and 172T... I need 166T to make it work on
> Mr.RC45...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_3294.jpg
>
> I started with a Buell 11mm pitch sprockets and belt... a 30T up
> front and 70T out back... they were machined them to fit Mr.RC45...
> so far so good
>
> Buell's steel 30T 11mm spocket installed on the RC45 primary shaft...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_45790.jpg
>
> Buell's aluminum 72T 11mm sprocket installed on the RC45 axle...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_18651.jpg
>
> Ideally I needed 628mm between centers as evident with Mr.RC45's 17T
> 43T 110 links of chain prove to show...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_100085.jpg
>
> But when I added the Buell 30T 72T 155T setup it measured 561mm
> between centers... 67mm too short...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_84588.jpg
>
> Next I ordered a 172 tooth belt from BMW but with the Buell sprockets
> the BMW belt was 664mm between centers... 36mm too long...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_60739.jpg
>
>
> Maybe if I machine my own 76T sprocket so I started with a 20lb block
> of 7075 T6 Aluminum...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_62149.jpg
>
>
> After the teeth were cut by RCD Engineering the block was down to 10
> lbs at this stage...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_496.jpg
>
> After milling the spokes using only hand eye coordination it was down
> to 1 lb 13 oz...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_52808.jpg
>
> Now with the Buell 30T sprocket 172T BMW belt and 76T home made
> sprocket the distance between centers was 651mm... 23mm too long...
> because of the single sided swing arm I limited to 20mm adjustment so
> I knew it would be close... how close??? less than 3mm or .118
> thousands of an inch separates success from failure...
>
> http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_80322.jpg
>
> I have failed to unchain Mr.RC45... not that I didn't come close... I
> came within 3mm of enjoying a light weight... maintenance free...
> snatch free... lubeless belt drive system... it all came down to
> finding the right number of teeth in a 11mm pitch belt... and so with
> only 2 bikes in the world that employ the 11mm pitch belt (2003 Buell
> and the 2007 BMW 800) I have to wait for a 3rd bike to employ the
> little known 11mm pitch Poly Chain Belt...
>
> So in conclusion after $1000 dollars in parts and a custom 7075 T6
> aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I have
> NO joy to report... in fact I'm devastated and sad... not to mention
> Gates Rubber wants $65K for the mold of a custom 166T 11mm pitch
> belt...

A belt too loose is *NOT* really a problem Larry, though you're not
gaining the "anti-snatch" properties of running the belt.

But... Can you run an idler, or tensioner like Buell does with the XBs
and 1125Rs?


And, believe it or not, the Richie Morris Moto-ST team will be running a
belt on the 1125R, at least for the inaugural Daytona race.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:58 pm
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> So in conclusion after $1000 dollars in parts and a custom 7075 T6
> aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I
> have
> NO joy to report... in fact I'm devastated and sad... not to mention
> Gates Rubber wants $65K for the mold of a custom 166T 11mm pitch
> belt...
>
> Larry L

Heroic effort!! Now its time to stop machining, start riding!!
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:41 pm
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Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:

> Unchain my bike... or so I thought...
>
> Hans Renold is credited with inventing roller chain in 1880... but
> here we are 127 years later and bikes are still laboring under a
> steely... heavy... clanky... messy... chain... Mercy me chains are a
> pain... belts spell relief... and so my belt drive conversion starts
> with an engineering drawing...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_26197.jpg
>
> Gates Poly Chain comes in 3 belt sizes... 14mm pitch is what HD
> employs on their cruisers... 8mm is what I used on the VF500
> Belt-0-Ceptor... 11mm is the little known in between belt but only
> comes in lengths of 155T and 172T... I need 166T to make it work on
> Mr.RC45...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_3294.jpg
>
> I started with a Buell 11mm pitch sprockets and belt... a 30T up
> front and 70T out back... they were machined them to fit Mr.RC45...
> so far so good
>
> Buell's steel 30T 11mm spocket installed on the RC45 primary shaft...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_45790.jpg
>
> Buell's aluminum 72T 11mm sprocket installed on the RC45 axle...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_18651.jpg
>
> Ideally I needed 628mm between centers as evident with Mr.RC45's 17T
> 43T 110 links of chain prove to show...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_100085.jpg
>
> But when I added the Buell 30T 72T 155T setup it measured 561mm
> between centers... 67mm too short...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_84588.jpg
>
> Next I ordered a 172 tooth belt from BMW but with the Buell sprockets
> the BMW belt was 664mm between centers... 36mm too long...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_60739.jpg
>
>
> Maybe if I machine my own 76T sprocket so I started with a 20lb block
> of 7075 T6 Aluminum...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_62149.jpg
>
>
> After the teeth were cut by RCD Engineering the block was down to 10
> lbs at this stage...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_496.jpg
>
> After milling the spokes using only hand eye coordination it was down
> to 1 lb 13 oz...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202843870/gallery_3131_51_52808.jpg
>
> Now with the Buell 30T sprocket 172T BMW belt and 76T home made
> sprocket the distance between centers was 651mm... 23mm too long...
> because of the single sided swing arm I limited to 20mm adjustment so
> I knew it would be close... how close??? less than 3mm or .118
> thousands of an inch separates success from failure...
>
>
http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/uploads/1202676768/gallery_3131_51_80322.jpg
>
> I have failed to unchain Mr.RC45... not that I didn't come close... I
> came within 3mm of enjoying a light weight... maintenance free...
> snatch free... lubeless belt drive system... it all came down to
> finding the right number of teeth in a 11mm pitch belt... and so with
> only 2 bikes in the world that employ the 11mm pitch belt (2003 Buell
> and the 2007 BMW 800) I have to wait for a 3rd bike to employ the
> little known 11mm pitch Poly Chain Belt...
>
> So in conclusion after $1000 dollars in parts and a custom 7075 T6
> aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I have
> NO joy to report... in fact I'm devastated and sad... not to mention
> Gates Rubber wants $65K for the mold of a custom 166T 11mm pitch
> belt...
>
> Larry L
> 94 RC45 #2
> Have a wheelie NICE day...
> Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
> If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
> V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
> 1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
> Yank and bank your brains loose...
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
> http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
> http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532474@N00/?saved=1
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10503451@N07/

Don't it get you down, Larry. How many times did Edison fail before he came
up with a successfull litebulb Design. We're just glad to here from you:)
--
Bob Nixon, 84-RZ-350, 06-SV-650, Chandler, AZ.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:14 am
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> Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:
>> a custom 7075 T6
>> aluminum sprocket consuming over 30 days worth of machining... I have
>> NO joy to report...
>
> Larry, after getting your sprocket cut from a block, how the heck could
> you have spent 30 days milling the spokes into it without test-fitting
> it with the belt on the bike first?

I was afraid that a bad test fit would kill off my enthusiasm to due a good job
on the sprocket...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532474@N00/?saved=1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10503451@N07/
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:16 am
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> But... Can you run an idler, or tensioner like Buell does with the XBs and
> 1125Rs?
>
>
> And, believe it or not, the Richie Morris Moto-ST team will be running a belt
> on the 1125R, at least for the inaugural Daytona race.

I already thought about belt tensioner... but the BMW belt is not recommended to
bend backwards like the
Buell belt is... besides I don't think I have the room on Mr.RC45 dense
packaging...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532474@N00/?saved=1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10503451@N07/
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:30 am
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Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:
> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47b372c7$0$6516$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>> But... Can you run an idler, or tensioner like Buell does with the XBs and
>> 1125Rs?
>>
>>
>> And, believe it or not, the Richie Morris Moto-ST team will be running a belt
>> on the 1125R, at least for the inaugural Daytona race.
>
> I already thought about belt tensioner... but the BMW belt is not recommended to
> bend backwards like the
> Buell belt is... besides I don't think I have the room on Mr.RC45 dense
> packaging...
>

Too bad you live half a country away.

AND, don't just stick to the Gates belt. The newer Goodyear belts are
FAR better as far as durability goes.


Or just go out and purchase an 1125R. The Belt comes with it Smile
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:31 am
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Steve Mackay <steve_mackay RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Or just go out and purchase an 1125R. The Belt comes with it Smile

But no V4....

- Kurt
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> Steve Mackay <steve_mackay.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Or just go out and purchase an 1125R. The Belt comes with it Smile
>
> But no V4....
>
> - Kurt

Well, there is that...
But, is that a good thing? Or a bad thing? Smile
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> Unchain my bike... or so I thought...
>
> Hans Renold is credited with inventing roller chain in 1880... but
> here we are 127 years later and bikes are still laboring under a
> steely... heavy... clanky... messy... chain...

Lots of motorcycles have drive shafts or belts Smile
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> Larry xlax Lovisone wrote:
>> "Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:47b372c7$0$6516$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

> Too bad you live half a country away.
>
> AND, don't just stick to the Gates belt. The newer Goodyear belts are FAR
> better as far as durability goes.
>
>
> Or just go out and purchase an 1125R. The Belt comes with it Smile
>

I already checked Goodyear they don't offer a 11mm pitch belt only 8mm and
14mm...

Mercy Steve... why spend all that loot on a V2 relic of the past when the only
good thing on it is the belt???

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532474@N00/?saved=1
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> "Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2.RemoveThis@combogusinfocast.net> wrote in message
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> Lots of motorcycles have drive shafts or belts Smile

No thanks... current bikes with shafts or belts handle like a refrigerator full
of bowling balls compared to Mr.RC45...

Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/-xlax-/
http://home.comcast.net/~netters2/
http://www.fox302.com/index.pl?s=vg&user=netters2
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532474@N00/?saved=1
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:59 pm
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"Steve Mackay" <steve_mackay DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, there is that...
> But, is that a good thing? Or a bad thing? Smile

Bad... V2s are dead and buried as far as racing is concerned... but they do make
a nice exercise machine...

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Larry L
94 RC45 #2
Have a wheelie NICE day...
Lean & Mean it in every corner of your life...
If it wasn't for us the fast lane would rust...
V4'S are music to the seat of my pants...
1952 De Havilland Chipmunk...
Yank and bank your brains loose...
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:39 pm
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"Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2.DeleteThis@combogusinfocast.net> wrote in message
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>> "Larry xlax Lovisone" <netters2.DeleteThis@combogusinfocast.net> wrote in message
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>> Lots of motorcycles have drive shafts or belts Smile
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> No thanks... current bikes with shafts or belts handle like a refrigerator
> full of bowling balls compared to Mr.RC45...
>
I guess you have not ridden a BMW K1200 for 2 hours.
The Bmw k1200 S can put out 167 bhp @ 10250 rpm
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