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Dan L

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:40 am
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Having taken the Zeph out for a little run yesterday afternoon, my concerns
about the OEM tyres [1] currently fitted have grown considerably. The
subtle combination of said tyres, one of Mr Kawaski's heavier industrial
proucts, damp greasy roads and me piloting the bloody thing is a recipe for
disaster.

Having spoken to the chap at my local SOB emporium, I have been pointed
towards BT020's [2]. Before going down this route, is there potentially a
better choice for this type of bike?

[1] Bridgestone Exedra's, with a plug in the rear one.
[2] £200 fitted, including changing the fork seals (which are weeping).

AIUI the Exedra's are crossplies, whereas the BT020's are radials. I have
not been riding bikes long enough to know the real difference this makes,
any opinions would be much appreciated.

My last experience of crossplies was on a Morris Minor, and the cjange to
radials didn't make much difference (to me).

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Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 am
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Dan L wrote:

 > Having taken the Zeph out for a little run yesterday afternoon, my
 > concerns about the OEM tyres [1] currently fitted have grown
 > considerably. The subtle combination of said tyres, one of Mr
 > Kawaski's heavier industrial proucts, damp greasy roads and me
 > piloting the bloody thing is a recipe for disaster.
 >
 > Having spoken to the chap at my local SOB emporium, I have been
 > pointed towards BT020's [2]. Before going down this route, is there
 > potentially a better choice for this type of bike?

Avon AV45/46 will be much better. Grippier than the 020's and longer
lasting. Also about 20 quid a pair cheaper.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:40 am
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Simon Atkinson wrote:
 > Dan L wrote:
 >
  >> Having taken the Zeph out for a little run yesterday afternoon, my
  >> concerns about the OEM tyres [1] currently fitted have grown
  >> considerably. The subtle combination of said tyres, one of Mr
  >> Kawaski's heavier industrial proucts, damp greasy roads and me
  >> piloting the bloody thing is a recipe for disaster.
  >>
  >> Having spoken to the chap at my local SOB emporium, I have been
  >> pointed towards BT020's [2]. Before going down this route, is there
  >> potentially a better choice for this type of bike?
 >
 > Avon AV45/46 will be much better. Grippier than the 020's and longer
 > lasting. Also about 20 quid a pair cheaper.

Cheers for that, will investigate further.

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Dan L (Oldbloke)
My bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
M'boy's bike 2003 Honda NSR125R
Spare Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X
BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26, BOMB#18 (slow)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 7:40 am
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"Dan L" wrote

  >>
  >> Avon AV45/46 will be much better. Grippier than the 020's and longer
  >> lasting. Also about 20 quid a pair cheaper.
 >

Tyres these days will usually perform beyond the limits of the "average"
rider and choice is usually down to individual preference. Having said that
on the 1200 Bandit I have experimented with the 020's and the AV 45/46 as
well as a few others.

"My" experience found that the 45/46 combination was no grippier than the
020's and I certainly found that the Bridgestones were better in the wet. As
for mileage (that was the reason I tried them going through 3 sets per year)
I also found they were no better and I get the usual 4000 miles out of a
rear.

Either choice will be better than the OE tyres.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 8:40 am
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Simon Atkinson says...
 > Dan L wrote:
 >
  > > Having taken the Zeph out for a little run yesterday afternoon, my
  > > concerns about the OEM tyres [1] currently fitted have grown
  > > considerably. The subtle combination of said tyres, one of Mr
  > > Kawaski's heavier industrial proucts, damp greasy roads and me
  > > piloting the bloody thing is a recipe for disaster.
  > >
  > > Having spoken to the chap at my local SOB emporium, I have been
  > > pointed towards BT020's [2]. Before going down this route, is there
  > > potentially a better choice for this type of bike?
 >
 > Avon AV45/46 will be much better. Grippier than the 020's and longer
 > lasting. Also about 20 quid a pair cheaper.

I'll second what Simes says here. He put me on to the Avons in the first
place and I was extremely happy with them. Much better than 020s in all
respects.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 8:40 am
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Mark wrote:

 >
 > "Dan L" wrote
 >
   > > >
   > >> Avon AV45/46 will be much better. Grippier than the 020's and
 > longer >> lasting. Also about 20 quid a pair cheaper.
  > >
 >
 > Tyres these days will usually perform beyond the limits of the
 > "average" rider and choice is usually down to individual preference.
 > Having said that on the 1200 Bandit I have experimented with the
 > 020's and the AV 45/46 as well as a few others.
 >
 > "My" experience found that the 45/46 combination was no grippier than
 > the 020's and I certainly found that the Bridgestones were better in
 > the wet. As for mileage (that was the reason I tried them going
 > through 3 sets per year) I also found they were no better and I get
 > the usual 4000 miles out of a rear.

Really? That's interesting - I get a lot more miles on the Pan from
the Avons, and you can feel the difference compared to the 020's. Also
the 20 or 30 quid saving is nice!

 > Either choice will be better than the OE tyres.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:40 pm
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"Lozzo" wrote
 >
 > I'll second what Simes says here. He put me on to the Avons in the first
 > place and I was extremely happy with them. Much better than 020s in all
 > respects.

At the Bikeshow the guy who runs a Blackbird spares company also rated the
45/46 combination. Maybe I didn't get the mileage because I used them
harder? Maybe I'll get another set at some stage to reflect on my view to
date!

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:40 pm
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Mark wrote:

 >
 > "Lozzo" wrote
  > >
  > > I'll second what Simes says here. He put me on to the Avons in the
  > > first place and I was extremely happy with them. Much better than
  > > 020s in all respects.
 >
 > At the Bikeshow the guy who runs a Blackbird spares company also
 > rated the 45/46 combination. Maybe I didn't get the mileage because I
 > used them harder?

Even so - I'd have expected them to last at least 50% longer than the
020's (assuming you rode the same on the 020's) - if only because the
Avons start off with /so/ much tread depth.

 > Maybe I'll get another set at some stage to reflect
 > on my view to date!


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