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Piers Croft

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:35 pm
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I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it is
very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
alternative?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:35 pm
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In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:35:18 +0100
Piers Croft <piers.DeleteThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote:
 > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it is
 > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 > alternative?

Buy one when you get here, and sell it when you leave.

See <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://bikepoint.com.au" target="_blank">http://bikepoint.com.au</a> and <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://tradingpost.com.au" target="_blank">http://tradingpost.com.au</a> to get an idea
of prices.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:35 pm
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Buy a bike and then sell it when you leave to go home.

Boxer

"Piers Croft" <piers.RemoveThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it
 > is
 > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 > alternative?
 >
 >
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"Piers Croft" <piers.TakeThisOut@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it
is
 > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 > alternative?
 >

A few companies offer a guaranteed buy-back scheme:
try
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bikescape.com.au" target="_blank">www.bikescape.com.au</a>

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:23 am
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 > Can anyone suggest an alternative?

no...but here is some other information;

The Douglas Adams Guide to Australia
Australia is a very confusing place, taking up a large amount of the
bottom half of the planet. It is recognisable from orbit because of many
unusual features, including what at first looks like an enormous bite
taken out of its southern edge; a wall of sheer cliffs which plunge deep
into the girting sea.

Geologists assure us that this is simply an accident of geomorphology
and plate tectonics, but they still call it the "Great Australian Bight"
proving that not only are they covering up a more frightening theory,
but they can't spell either.

The first of the confusing things about Australia is the status of the
place. Where other land masses and sovereign lands are classified as
either continent, island, or country, Australia is considered all three.
Typically, it is unique in this.

The second confusing thing about Australia are the animals. They can be
divided into three categories: Poisonous, Odd, and Sheep.

It is true that of the 10 most poisonous arachnids on the planet,
Australia has 9 of them. Actually, it would be more accurate to say that
of the 9 most poisonous arachnids, Australia has all of them.
However,there are curiously few snakes, possibly because the spiders
have killed them all. But even the spiders won't go near the sea. Any
visitors should be careful to check inside boots (before putting them
on) under toilet seats (before sitting down) and generally everywhere
else. A stick is very useful for this task.

Strangely, it tends to be the second class of animals (the Odd) that are
more dangerous. The creature that kills the most people each year is the
common Wombat. It is nearly as ridiculous as its name, and spends its
life digging holes in the ground, in which it hides. During the night it
comes out to eat worms and grubs. The wombat kills people in two ways:
First, the animal is indestructible. Digging holes in the hard
Australian clay builds muscles that outclass Olympic weightlifters. At
night, they often wander the roads. Semi-trailers (Road Trains) have hit
them at high speed, with all 9 wheels on one side, and this merely makes
them very annoyed. They express this by snorting, glaring, and walking
away. Alas, to smaller cars, the wombat becomes an asymmetrical
launching pad, with results that can be imagined, but not adequately
described.

The second way the wombat kills people relates to its burrowing
behaviour. If a person happens to put their hand down a Wombat hole, the
Wombat will feel the disturbance and think "Ho! My hole is collapsing!"
at which it will brace its muscled legs and push up against the roof of
its burrow with incredible force, to prevent its collapse. Any
unfortunate hand will be crushed, and attempts to withdraw will cause
the Wombat to simply bear down harder. The unfortunate will then bleed
to death through their crushed hand as the wombat prevents him from
seeking assistance. This is considered the third most embarrassing known
way to die, and Australians don't talk about it much.

At this point, we would like to mention the Platypus, estranged relative
of the mammal, which has a duck-bill, otter's tail, webbed feet, lays
eggs, detects its aquatic prey in the same way as the electric eel, and
has venomous barbs attached to its hind legs, thus combining all
'typical' Australian attributes into a single improbable creature.

The last confusing thing about Australia is the inhabitants. First, a
short history: Some time around 40,000 years ago, some people arrived in
boats from the north. They ate all the available food, and lot of them
died. The ones that survived learned respect for the balance of nature,
man's proper place in the scheme of things, and spiders. They settled
in, and spent a lot of the intervening time making up strange stories.

Then, around 200 years ago, Europeans arrived in boats from the north.
More accurately, European convicts were sent, with a few deranged and
stupid people in charge. They tried to plant their crops in Autumn
(failing to take account of the reversal of the seasons when moving from
the top half of the planet to the bottom), ate all their food, and a lot
of them died. About then the sheep arrived, and have been treasured ever
since.

It is interesting to note here that the Europeans always consider
themselves vastly superior to any other race they encounter, since they
can lie, cheat, steal, and litigate (marks of a civilised culture they
say) --whereas all the Aboriginals can do is happily survive being left
in the middle of a vast red-hot desert, equipped with only a stick.

Eventually, the new lot of people stopped being Europeans on Extended
Holiday and became Australians. The changes are subtle, but deep, caused
by the mind-stretching expanses of nothingness and eerie quiet, where a
person can sit perfectly still and look deep inside themselves to the
core of their essence, their reasons for being, and the necessity of
checking inside your boots every morning for fatal surprises. They also
picked up the most finely tuned sense of irony in the world, and the
Aboriginal gift for making up stories. Be warned.

There is also the matter of the beaches. Australian beaches are simply
the nicest and best in the entire world. Although anyone actually
venturing into the sea will have to contend with sharks, stinging
jellyfish, stonefish (a fish which sits on the bottom of the sea,
pretends to be a rock, and has venomous barbs sticking out of its back
that will kill just from the pain) and surfboarders.

However, watching a beach sunset is worth the risk.

As a result of all this hardship, dirt, thirst, and wombats, you would
expect Australians to be a dour lot. Instead, they are genial, jolly,
cheerful and always willing to share a kind word with a stranger, unless
they are an American.

Faced with insurmountable odds and impossible problems, they smile
disarmingly and look for a stick. Major engineering feats have been
performed with sheets of corrugated iron, string and mud. Alone of all
the races on earth, they seem to be free from the 'Grass is Greener on
the other side of the fence' syndrome and roundly proclaim that
Australia is, in fact, the other side of that fence. They call the land
"Oz", "Godzone" (a verbal contraction of "God's Own Country") and "Best
bloody place on earth,bar none, strewth." The irritating thing about
this is they may be right.

There are some traps for the unsuspecting traveller, though. Do not
under any circumstances suggest that the beer is imperfect, unless you
are comparing it to another kind of Australian beer. Do not wear a
Hawaiian shirt. Religion and Politics are safe topics of conversation
(Australians don't care too much about either) but Sport is a minefield.
The only correct answer to "So, howdya' like our country, eh?" is "Best
{insert your own regional swear word here} country in the world!".

It is very likely that, on arriving, some cheerful Australians will
'adopt' you, and on your first night, and take you to a pub where
Australian Beer is served. Despite the obvious danger, do not refuse. It
is a form of initiation rite. You will wake up late the next day with an
astonishing hangover, a foul-taste in your mouth and wearing strange
clothes. Your hosts will usually make sure you get home and waive off
any legal difficulties with "It's his first time in Australia, so we
took him to the pub.", to which the policeman will sagely nod and close
his notebook. Be sure to tell the story of these events to every other
Australian you encounter, adding new embellishments at every stage, and
noting how strong the beer was. Thus you will be accepted into this
unique culture.

Most Australians are now urban dwellers, having discovered the primary
use of electricity, which is air-conditioning and refrigerators.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Typical Australian sayings
"G'Day!"
"It's better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick."
"She'll be right."
"And down from Kosciusko, where the pine clad ridges raise their torn
and rugged battlements on high,
where the air is clear is crystal, and the white stars fairly blaze at
midnight in the cold and frosty sky.
And where, around the overflow, the reed beds sweep and sway to the
breezes, and the rolling plains are wide.
The Man from Snowy River is a household word today, and the stockmen
tell the story of his ride."

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Tips to Surviving Australia
Don't ever put your hand down a hole for any reason whatsoever. We mean it.
The beer is stronger than you think, regardless of how strong you think
it is.
Always carry a stick.
Air-conditioning.
Do not attempt to use Australian slang, unless you are a trained
linguist and good in a fistfight.
Thick socks.
Take good maps. Stopping to ask directions only works when there are
people nearby.
If you leave the urban areas, carry several litres of water with you at
all times, or you will die.
Even in the most embellished stories told by Australians, there is
always a core of truth that it is unwise to ignore.

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See Also:

Deserts: How to die in them
The Stick: Second most useful thing ever
Poisonous and Venomous arachnids, insects, animals, trees, shrubs, fish
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:19 am
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:35:18 +0100, "Piers Croft"
<piers.DeleteThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote:

 >I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 >weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it is
 >very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 >alternative?
 >
Eddie Garner (http://www.garnersmotorcycles.com.au/) does buy back
deals.

Buy a suitable bike from Eddie and he guarantees to buy it back off
you when you have finished your holiday.

He can organise insurance & rego etc and subject to condition you
should get most of your purchase price returned before you leave
Australia.

Good luck.

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"Dave Milligan" <dave.RemoveThis@SPAMTRAPgetrouted.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:35:18 +0100, "Piers Croft"
 > <piers.RemoveThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote:
 >
  > >I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my
5
  > >weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it
is
  > >very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
  > >alternative?
  > >
 > Eddie Garner (http://www.garnersmotorcycles.com.au/) does buy back
 > deals.
 >
 > Dave Milligan

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"Piers Croft" <piers.RemoveThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it
 > is
 > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 > alternative?
 >
 >

Sure can....
Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
mountains
and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if you
need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.

Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper than
Australia's.

James.
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"James" <funngums.DeleteThis@XXXyahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Piers Croft" <piers.DeleteThis@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:cgti6a$tje$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
  > > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my
5
  > > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but
it
  > > is
  > > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
  > > alternative?
  > >
  > >
 >
 > Sure can....
 > Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
 > octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
 > mountains
 > and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if
you
 > need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.
 >
 > Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper than
 > Australia's.
 >
 > James.
 > 04 Triumph Rocket III
 > Yeahhhhhh....
 >
 >
 >

.....and there's less people in the way to annoy you because the kiwis are
all over here.

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:38:16 +1200, "James" <funngums.RemoveThis@XXXyahoo.com>
wrote:

 >
 >Sure can....
 >Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
 >octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
 >mountains
 >and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if you
 >need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.
 >
 >Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper than
 >Australia's.
 >
This is true.

Actually Piers, you can tour the East Coast of Australia and New
Zealand if you have time.

My small business is all about shipping bikes from Aussie to NZ and
back over the Summer months. Smart Aussies have figured out that the
above statements to be correct and are having me ship their bikes
over. We expect to do 6 shipments over the December to the end of
March period out of Sydney and Melbourne.

Have a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.getrouted.com.au" target="_blank">www.getrouted.com.au</a> in a couple of days. It's
currently being updated.

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"Robotman" <invalid.TakeThisOut@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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 > "James" <funngums.TakeThisOut@XXXyahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:LNtYc.19369$N77.763265@news.xtra.co.nz...
  >>
  >> "Piers Croft" <piers.TakeThisOut@plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
  >> news:cgti6a$tje$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
   >> > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend
   >> > my
 > 5
   >> > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but
 > it
   >> > is
   >> > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
   >> > alternative?
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
  >> Sure can....
  >> Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
  >> octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
  >> mountains
  >> and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if
 > you
  >> need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.
  >>
  >> Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper
  >> than
  >> Australia's.
  >>
  >> James.
  >> 04 Triumph Rocket III
  >> Yeahhhhhh....
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 > ....and there's less people in the way to annoy you because the kiwis are
 > all over here.
 >
 > Robotman.
 >


Only the useless ones that you are welcome to.
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:57:41 +1200, "James" <funngums.RemoveThis@XXXyahoo.com>
wrote:
 > ....and there's less people in the way to annoy you because the kiwis are
  >> all over here.
  >>
  >> Robotman.
 >
 >Only the useless ones that you are welcome to.
 >James

Is that why you post to AUS.motorcycles....

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"Dave Milligan" <dave RemoveThis @SPAMTRAPgetrouted.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:38:16 +1200, "James" <funngums RemoveThis @XXXyahoo.com>
 > wrote:
 >
  >>
  >>Sure can....
  >>Come to New Zealand instead. Everything cheaper, rental bikes, higher
  >>octane petrol, accommodation, air fares, more friendly people, real
  >>mountains
  >>and scenery within shorter distances. You can even get yourself a job if
  >>you
  >>need it. Almost full employment, so plenty of work with good pay.
  >>
  >>Another important matter is motorcycle insurance. Ours is FAR cheaper than
  >>Australia's.
  >>
 > This is true.
 >
 > Actually Piers, you can tour the East Coast of Australia and New
 > Zealand if you have time.
 >
 > My small business is all about shipping bikes from Aussie to NZ and
 > back over the Summer months. Smart Aussies have figured out that the
 > above statements to be correct and are having me ship their bikes
 > over. We expect to do 6 shipments over the December to the end of
 > March period out of Sydney and Melbourne.
 >
 > Have a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.getrouted.com.au" target="_blank">www.getrouted.com.au</a> in a couple of days. It's
 > currently being updated.
 >
 > Kind regards
 > Dave Milligan




I suppose you could do it from NZ to Ozz too could you Dave, then he
couls save money by hiring the bike here.
If Dave can't I'm sure NZ Express will be pleased to help.
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Piers Croft <piers DeleteThis @plc76.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > I'm visiting Australia in February next year and really want to spend my 5
 > weeks touring up the East Coast from Sydney to Cairns by motorbike but it
is
 > very expensive to hire a bike for that long. Can anyone suggest an
 > alternative?
 >


Do it faster.

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 > On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 12:57:41 +1200, "James" <funngums.RemoveThis@XXXyahoo.com>
 > wrote:
  >> ....and there's less people in the way to annoy you because the kiwis are
   >>> all over here.
   >>>
   >>> Robotman.
  >>
  >>Only the useless ones that you are welcome to.
  >>James
 >
 > Is that why you post to AUS.motorcycles....
 >
 > paulh


Hi again Paul.
It's the open abuse and bullshit that's
a change from the more friendly less
ignorant NZ, US, and UK groups.
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