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Inlaw Biker

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:06 pm
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From Saturday, Aug 14 at Spokane Raceway

Small group this time, only about 25 of us had the whole track to ourselves.
Riding went from 9-3, no sessions, just a wide-open day. I did about 200
miles. Seems like a short day, and it felt short until about 1pm when it go
too damn hot to ride longer than 15 or 20 minutes. By 3pm I was done. Temp
registered about 105, on the asphault I'm sure it was hotter. I felt like
the tires were fine though. Extreme heat actually gets rid of the jaggies
in your tire, instead you get a smooth even wear. Not sure if that's a good
thing or not.

I improved a lot this year. A lot of guys I was slower than in April I'm
faster than now. It's fun to have the litrebikes blow by you in the
straights, then see how far you can catch up through the turns. It really
makes you think about riding and employ some strategy. The way I see it,
the 600 supersport race leaders at WMRRA are about 5 secs/lap faster than
our group's fastest racer, on his souped-up RC51. So the bike ain't the
limiting factor, except on the straights. In fact I should be able to
corner better. I can't yet exactly so I have a lot of room to grow.

My improvement came in a couple of corners. I get a massive drive out of
turn 2, which is where I'm able to get a lot of catch-up. A lot of guys
said I was unpassable out of 2, until I get to 6 where I ride like a granny.
It's a hairpin that I just don't get yet. Then on turn 4, the best
right-hander (of only 2 total), my braking improved a lot. Otherwise I need
improvment in every corner.

I am done with street tires on the track. This was my 3rd track day on this
set, I'm getting slicks next. I just don't have the confidence in these
tires to go balls-out. I have a new set of Dunlop 208 ZR's (180/55 ZR17,
120/60 ZR17) for sale at $200 for the pair, email me if you want em.
They're unused, unmounted, virginal and brand spanking new.

http://jeffr.vircom.net/cbsbc/81404/srpaugust.html

Some pictures from the day. Oddly there are none of me, but oh well. The
dude on the 1100 Boxer had a blast. I'm glad he was there, he's the only
guy I could pass on the straights. The 920 bike is Cary Guasta's 954rr,
he's one of our best riders, holding about 5th in GP open class in his first
year. They made him skip novice. Only one injury, that on a pocketbike.
Three brand-new R1's on the day, man they're pretty.


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:11 pm
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"Inlaw Biker" <gmonsquared RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > From Saturday, Aug 14 at Spokane Raceway
 >
 > Small group this time, only about 25 of us had the whole track to
ourselves.
 > Riding went from 9-3, no sessions, just a wide-open day. I did about 200
 > miles. Seems like a short day, and it felt short until about 1pm when it
go
 > too damn hot to ride longer than 15 or 20 minutes. By 3pm I was done.
Temp
 > registered about 105, on the asphault I'm sure it was hotter. I felt like
 > the tires were fine though. Extreme heat actually gets rid of the jaggies
 > in your tire, instead you get a smooth even wear. Not sure if that's a
good
 > thing or not.
 >
 > I improved a lot this year. A lot of guys I was slower than in April I'm
 > faster than now. It's fun to have the litrebikes blow by you in the
 > straights, then see how far you can catch up through the turns. It really
 > makes you think about riding and employ some strategy. The way I see it,
 > the 600 supersport race leaders at WMRRA are about 5 secs/lap faster than
 > our group's fastest racer, on his souped-up RC51. So the bike ain't the
 > limiting factor, except on the straights. In fact I should be able to
 > corner better. I can't yet exactly so I have a lot of room to grow.
 >
 > My improvement came in a couple of corners. I get a massive drive out of
 > turn 2, which is where I'm able to get a lot of catch-up. A lot of guys
 > said I was unpassable out of 2, until I get to 6 where I ride like a
granny.
 > It's a hairpin that I just don't get yet. Then on turn 4, the best
 > right-hander (of only 2 total), my braking improved a lot. Otherwise I
need
 > improvment in every corner.
 >
 > I am done with street tires on the track. This was my 3rd track day on
this
 > set, I'm getting slicks next. I just don't have the confidence in these
 > tires to go balls-out. I have a new set of Dunlop 208 ZR's (180/55 ZR17,
 > 120/60 ZR17) for sale at $200 for the pair, email me if you want em.
 > They're unused, unmounted, virginal and brand spanking new.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://jeffr.vircom.net/cbsbc/81404/srpaugust.html</font" target="_blank">http://jeffr.vircom.net/cbsbc/81404/srpaugust.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Some pictures from the day. Oddly there are none of me, but oh well. The
 > dude on the 1100 Boxer had a blast. I'm glad he was there, he's the only
 > guy I could pass on the straights. The 920 bike is Cary Guasta's 954rr,
 > he's one of our best riders, holding about 5th in GP open class in his
first
 > year. They made him skip novice. Only one injury, that on a pocketbike.
 > Three brand-new R1's on the day, man they're pretty.
 >
 >

You gonna be at SIR tomorrow?
Bannon and I are going. If you aren't you should head down and keep us
company!


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Inlaw Biker

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 1:14 pm
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Andrew wrote:
  >>
  >>
 >
 > You gonna be at SIR tomorrow?
 > Bannon and I are going. If you aren't you should head down and keep
 > us company!

I have business down in Tacoma tomorrow so I'll drive right by it. I'll try
to stop by but it'll be by car unfortunately.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:07 pm
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On 8/17/04 12:14 PM, "Inlaw Biker" wrote:

 > Andrew wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >> You gonna be at SIR tomorrow?
  >> Bannon and I are going. If you aren't you should head down and keep
  >> us company!
 >
 > I have business down in Tacoma tomorrow so I'll drive right by it. I'll try
 > to stop by but it'll be by car unfortunately.
 >
I'm also going to try to swing by in the late morning.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 5:30 pm
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"Jamin Kortegard" <notme.TakeThisOut@notmymail.com> wrote in message
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 > On 8/17/04 12:14 PM, "Inlaw Biker" wrote:
 >
  > > Andrew wrote:
   > >>>
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >> You gonna be at SIR tomorrow?
   > >> Bannon and I are going. If you aren't you should head down and keep
   > >> us company!
  > >
  > > I have business down in Tacoma tomorrow so I'll drive right by it. I'll
try
  > > to stop by but it'll be by car unfortunately.
  > >
 > I'm also going to try to swing by in the late morning.
 >
 > --

Will you be lunch boy?
Please!!
Bannon will have some grassy something 'er other and I will have a Turkey
sandwich or something, no tomatoes! [1]

We'll bring cash & I have tons of drinks.


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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:08 pm
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on 8/17/04 4:30 PM, Andrew wrote:

 >
 > "Jamin Kortegard" <notme RemoveThis @notmymail.com> wrote in message
 > news:BD47DDD8.5A17%notme@notmymail.com...
  >> On 8/17/04 12:14 PM, "Inlaw Biker" wrote:
  >>
   >>> Andrew wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> You gonna be at SIR tomorrow?
   >>>> Bannon and I are going. If you aren't you should head down and keep
   >>>> us company!
   >>>
   >>> I have business down in Tacoma tomorrow so I'll drive right by it. I'll
 > try
   >>> to stop by but it'll be by car unfortunately.
   >>>
  >> I'm also going to try to swing by in the late morning.
  >>
  >> --
 >
 > Will you be lunch boy?
 > Please!!
 > Bannon will have some grassy something 'er other and I will have a Turkey
 > sandwich or something, no tomatoes! [1]
 >
 > We'll bring cash & I have tons of drinks.
 >
I'll be riding my motorcycle, so if you want I'll bring some PowerBars, but
that's about as much as I'll be able to pack along on the bike.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:01 am
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 > I am done with street tires on the track.

praise the lord and halleluya! While amusing for awhile, the pucker factor
they engage is better left to street riders and puttering Hardley guys.


 > This was my 3rd track day on this
 > set, I'm getting slicks next.

3 trackdays and going straight to slicks! A word of advice....until you get
real, real fast...if the DOT's are cheaper use them instead. They are quite
amazing in themselves, and having ridden on slicks and DOT's I still can't
tell the difference. Plus, I have yet to find the limits on DOT's even on
big fast bikes, I'm betting all of us need to get REAL fast before we might
be able to tell the difference. And if your most recent experience has been
learning on street tires, DOT's definately won't be the limiting factor for
awhile.


 > I just don't have the confidence in these
 > tires to go balls-out.

Good for you! Balls out on street tires can be done, you can do it and not
fall down...but I'll leave that to others. I usually take them to the track
on bikes headed there for the first time, knowing I most definately won't be
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 9:05 pm
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Troy the Troll wrote:
  >> I am done with street tires on the track.
 >
 > praise the lord and halleluya! While amusing for awhile, the pucker
 > factor they engage is better left to street riders and puttering
 > Hardley guys.
 >
  >> This was my 3rd track day on this
  >> set, I'm getting slicks next.
 >
 > 3 trackdays and going straight to slicks! A word of advice....until
 > you get real, real fast...if the DOT's are cheaper use them instead.

Well, 3rd trackday on that particular set of tires. I'm going to keep them
for street riding, only the edges are used. I went to the Pac Raceway to
meet up with Bannon and Andrew today, watched them do a few laps and looked
at all the cool bikes. There was a Rocket III on the track, believe it or
not, and a Harley to boot. I'm sure we'll get the full report from the
boys. I bought a set of D208 GP tires while I was there, so those are going
on the bike in the next few weeks before the Sept. 11 track day in Spokane.
They recommended against slicks this late in the year unless I get tire
warmers, which I don't own yet. Damn this hobby isn't getting any cheaper.


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:57 pm
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"Inlaw Biker" <gmonsquared.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Troy the Troll wrote:
 >
 > Well, 3rd trackday on that particular set of tires. I'm going to keep
them
 > for street riding, only the edges are used. I went to the Pac Raceway to
 > meet up with Bannon and Andrew today, watched them do a few laps and
looked
 > at all the cool bikes. There was a Rocket III on the track, believe it or
 > not, and a Harley to boot.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.msn.com/MCTripPics/2fast818.msnw" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/MCTripPics/2fast818.msnw</a>

Too tired to write a report. Tomorrow, perhaps.

 > I'm sure we'll get the full report from the
 > boys. I bought a set of D208 GP tires while I was there, so those are
going
 > on the bike in the next few weeks before the Sept. 11 track day in
Spokane.
 > They recommended against slicks this late in the year unless I get tire
 > warmers, which I don't own yet. Damn this hobby isn't getting any
cheaper.
 >

Wow, a 9-11 trackday...sounds like a recipe for disaster. I'd rather run a
trackday on Dec. 7th.


Are there open slots? Smile
I think I can get 1 more day in on these BT012SS's




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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 10:49 am
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Andrew wrote:
 > "Inlaw Biker" <gmonsquared.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:9cKdndpGbruahLncRVn-jg@comcast.com...
  >> Troy the Troll wrote:
  >>
  >> Well, 3rd trackday on that particular set of tires. I'm going to
  >> keep them for street riding, only the edges are used. I went to the
  >> Pac Raceway to meet up with Bannon and Andrew today, watched them do
  >> a few laps and looked at all the cool bikes. There was a Rocket III
  >> on the track, believe it or not, and a Harley to boot.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.msn.com/MCTripPics/2fast818.msnw</font" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/MCTripPics/2fast818.msnw</font</a>>
 >
 > Too tired to write a report. Tomorrow, perhaps.
 >
  >> I'm sure we'll get the full report from the
  >> boys. I bought a set of D208 GP tires while I was there, so those
  >> are going on the bike in the next few weeks before the Sept. 11
  >> track day in Spokane. They recommended against slicks this late in
  >> the year unless I get tire warmers, which I don't own yet. Damn
  >> this hobby isn't getting any cheaper.
  >>
 >
 > Wow, a 9-11 trackday...sounds like a recipe for disaster. I'd rather
 > run a trackday on Dec. 7th.
 >
 >
 > Are there open slots? Smile
 > I think I can get 1 more day in on these BT012SS's

Hey nobody's supposed to mention the 9/11 thing. But think of it this way,
what safer place is there to be than Spokane, WA?

I'm certain there are open slots. I'll pass you the info, you have to
reserve with our track coordinator. Try to meet up at Cafe Veloce on the
2nd, that's where we usually start making plans for getting rides and
trailer space.


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