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Mark Olson

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:27 am
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Nameless 1 wrote:
> On Oct 1, 12:07?am, Wudsracer <dirtbike_smackoverRem....DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
> wrote:

>> I use WD40 for a tire lube. Since it is basically naptha, it almost
>>completely disappears within an hour.

> I have been using WD40 as tire lube for years. Some people don't like
> it because it seems to glue the tire to a tubeless rim and makes tire
> changing with manual levers a lot harder.

Some people probably use WD-40 for a "personal lubricant", but that doesn't
mean it's a good idea.

> You can buy a tire changing lubricant caled Ru Glide at Pep Boys in
> pints and quarts and gallons.

RuGlyde is the right stuff. You can also get it at NAPA. I've never
seen it in a container smaller than a gallon. Here's the NAPA part
numbers from http://www.napaonline.com:

RuGlyde Gallon, in an opaque white gallon jug with "RuGlyde" and the NAPA
symbol on the label:
Item#: BK 7651338
Price: $13.49

This is blue stuff, in a transparent gallon jug that looks like a
windshield washer jug, the picture of the label doesn't say RuGlyde
on it, just the NAPA symbol and "Tire Mounting Lubricant".
Gallon:
Item#: BK 7652434
Price: $7.49

RuGlyde 5 gallon bucket:
Item#: BK 8272511
Price: $63.49

RuGlyde 50 gallon metal drum (no price given):
Item#: BK 8272532

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The Older Gentleman

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:39 pm
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Mark Olson <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:

> Some people probably use WD-40 for a "personal lubricant", but that doesn't
> mean it's a good idea.

I use washing up liquid. There again, I use it on my hair if we're out
of shampoo.


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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:39 pm
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The Older Gentleman wrote:
> Mark Olson <olsonm.TakeThisOut@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Some people probably use WD-40 for a "personal lubricant", but that doesn't
>>mean it's a good idea.

> I use washing up liquid. There again, I use it on my hair if we're out
> of shampoo.

*WW*TMI.

<thinks>

<gags>

How is it as a mind bleach?

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Andy Bonwick1

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:41 pm
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On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:29:47 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid>
wrote:

>The Older Gentleman wrote:
>> Mark Olson <olsonm RemoveThis @tiny.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some people probably use WD-40 for a "personal lubricant", but that doesn't
>>>mean it's a good idea.
>
>> I use washing up liquid. There again, I use it on my hair if we're out
>> of shampoo.
>
>*WW*TMI.
>
><thinks>
>
><gags>
>
>How is it as a mind bleach?

Why did you feel obliged to share the latest gem to come out of the
Murray household with all of us?
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Wudsracer

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:38 pm
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*****************************************************
>On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:27:53 -0500, Mark Olson <olsonm.DeleteThis@tiny.invalid> wrote:
>
>Some people probably use WD-40 for a "personal lubricant", but that doesn't
>mean it's a good idea.
>
********************************************************

Many lubes make the tire too slick for the tire irons to grip the
tire. WD40 is a good balance of "slick enough" and "not too slick".




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Mark Olson

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:38 pm
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Wudsracer wrote:

> Many lubes make the tire too slick for the tire irons to grip the
> tire. WD40 is a good balance of "slick enough" and "not too slick".

I've had zero problems with RuGlyde being too slippery, I have
a Harbor Freight tire changer and a Coats tire bar. Changing
tires is so easy with my setup I've been actively soliciting
everyone I know who rides, to drop in for free tire changes.

Not trying to take any paying customers away from your buddy at
RT&T, though.

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:36 am
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wessie wrote:
> Eddie <eddie.TakeThisOut@deguello.org> wrote in news:gqa8t4-btp.ln1@deguello.org:
>
>> Doesn't washing-up liquid contain salt, for which reason it shouldn't be
>> used for cleaning one's motorised conveyances?
>
> Correct. Most detergents are thickened with salt IIRC. Shampoo stings when
> it gets in your eyes because of the salt content. Only those products
> advertised as "non-sting" or "for children" are relatively salt free.

Ah... for some reason, I thought it was okay to use shampoo (or shower
gel) as washing-up liquid (which I've resorted to when camping), but not
vice versa. OTOH, maybe that's not the reason...

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:44 am
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paul c <toledobythesea DeleteThis @oohay.ac> wrote in news:OagMi.33749$x%6.32581
@pd7urf2no:

>
> I thought what they call 'washing up liquid' in the UK is what is called
> dish soap in N.A. Also thought that there is a big difference between
> soaps and detergents, something like this: soap doesn't scour and it
> suspends particles that you have disturbed with hand or water motion
> whereas detergents are abrasive. Not saying that's all there is to it,
> it's just about the sum of my knowledge on the subject. Would
> appreciate any expert clarification.
>

I've no idea about the semantic differences in the UK/US language.

However, soaps are specific group of chemicals made from saponification of
fats & oils. A process that has been around for millenia.

Detergents are compounds. Technically, adding a perfume to a soap makes a
detergent, but common useage implies a detergent is soap free.

Chapter & verse at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:36 am
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:40 am
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paul c <toledobythesea.RemoveThis@oohay.ac> wrote in news:nghMi.274240$fJ5.101121
@pd7urf1no:

> wessie wrote:
>> Chapter & verse at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap and
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent
>>
>
>
> thanks, heh, it makes sense that a Tesco guy would know his soaps and
> detergents!
>

I don't work for tesco YTC. It's a disposable email domain from a pikey ISP

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:10 am
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:10 am
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wessie wrote:

>Detergents are compounds. Technically, adding a perfume to a soap makes a
>detergent, but common useage implies a detergent is soap free.

Never take a bath with laundry detergent.

Don't ask.

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:15 am
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paul c wrote:
> wessie wrote:
> > Chapter & verse at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap and
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent
>
> thanks, heh, it makes sense that a Tesco guy would know his soaps and
> detergents!

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(Msg. 29) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:48 am
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In article <FMhMi.34556$x%6.19782@pd7urf2no>,
paul c <toledobythesea.RemoveThis@oohay.ac> wrote:
>wessie wrote:
>> paul c <toledobythesea.RemoveThis@oohay.ac> wrote in news:nghMi.274240$fJ5.101121
>> @pd7urf1no:
>>
>>> wessie wrote:
>>>> Chapter & verse at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap and
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detergent

>okay, no offense intended. i see that one of your links above does say
>that soap has salt in it, i presume that means sodium chloride, so that

I glanced at the links above, and nowhere could I find any mention of
salt being added to soap. Precipitating soap with it, sure, but not
*adding* it to the final product.

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(Msg. 30) Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:20 pm
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"Albrecht via MotorcycleKB.com" <u33665@uwe> wrote in message
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> wessie wrote:
>
> >Detergents are compounds. Technically, adding a perfume to a soap makes a
> >detergent, but common useage implies a detergent is soap free.
>
> Never take a bath with laundry detergent.
>
> Don't ask.
>
> --

On the other hand, even Prell shampoo won't remove transmission grease from
your hair but dish "soap" will. To long ago to remember what it was.
Probably Dawn would be the best now. Sure glad one never has to work
completely under a bike.
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