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HDManny

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:49 pm
Post subject: Takegawa TTR90 90cc to 110cc Kit Kehin PD Carb Issue
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My son rides a 2000 Yamaha TTR90.
He bought a Bolt-on aftermarket Takegawa 110 kit against my wishes.
It included the Cylinder, Piston, Rings, Cam, Kehin PD carb w/Air
Filter and Manifold ect..
I helped him install the components. It actually started but we are
unsure how well it ran. Not knowing much about the carb and having no
adjustment info.
We decided to go back to the stock carb for now. It runs excellent.
He's very happy. The new kit carb issue: The choke lever (Black
plastic) seems confusing. I believe when it is pushed up (arrow
direction), It is in choke position with the throttle plate closed.
My
son seems to think the opposite. The engine only runs in the down
position (and he think it is choked). When up it stalls out. Normally
the bike ran well (at high RPM) @ choke and when moved idled
normally? Any input would be immensely appreciated

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:59 pm
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Thanks for the reply Albrecht.
After re-examination of all the components I realized the boot that
goes over the throttle cable at the carb was not attached. I guess it
was sucking air. It is re-installed and working almost flawlessly. My
son says at full throttle it "bogs" a bit. I imagine that is a minor
adjustment I'm not sure how to do yet. Still he is really thrilled at
the difference in power between the 90cc vs the 110cc. He calls it
"Scary fast". I'm surprised myself. Hopefully it will all hold
together for a while.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:07 pm
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HDManny wrote:
>Thanks for the reply Albrecht.
>After re-examination of all the components I realized the boot that
>goes over the throttle cable at the carb was not attached. I guess it
>was sucking air. It is re-installed and working almost flawlessly.

Sudco International buys Mikuni and Keihin carbs and makes up custom kits for
various applications. They will probably have parts for a Keihin PD carb.

http://www.sudco.com/

The PE20 & 36 hyperlink shows a starting enrichener that is operated by a
lever that pivots on the end, lifting the air valve when it's pulled up.

This drawing shows that the carb uses hexagonal shaped jets which are known
as "hex" jets. If you had a #100 hex jet and you wanted to go 10% richer on
the
main mixture, you would install a #110 hex jet.

Round jets what are installed with a screwdriver instead of a wrench don't
work that way. If you went from a #100 main jet to a #110 main jet, the hole
in the jet would have about 20% more area and it would flow 20% more fuel.

> My
>son says at full throttle it "bogs" a bit. I imagine that is a minor
>adjustment I'm not sure how to do yet.

Well, you will just have to study the problem by listening to the motor and
reading the spark plugs.

If the engine sounds like it's gargling on gasoline when it bogs at high RPM
and you look at the spark plug and it's all covered with dry black soot, you
know the main jet is too large (or that it has fallen out and is laying in
the float bowl).

OTOH if the main jet is too small, you might see little black specks that
look like grains of pepper on the nose of the spark plug. This indicates the
mixture is so lean it's pre-igniting, and if you let that continue, the top
of the piston will start melting and you will see little balls of aluminum on
the spark plug.

I wish I could describe the groaning sound an engine makes when it's running
too lean and overheats before it melts the piston top.

The old standard for judging mixture richness used to be a light tan lead
deposit on the spark plug, but that doesn't work with unleaded gas.

Nowadays, tuners expect to see a narrow ring of black soot deep inside the
spark plug when they look at it with their magnifying flashlight.

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