How to get through Sydney - South to North???

Thanks heaps - decisions decisions. Putty road sounds good tho. Only
problem is that I will be leaving Wollongong at the end of the day, so looks
like I will have to stick to less country roads to make as much ground as
possible.

Cheers

Cags
"Alan Pennykid" <alan_pennykid*ME*@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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 > From wollongong
 > -Appin
 > -Campbelltown, Narellan
 > -Penrith, then Windsor (via Northern Rd)
 > -Putty rd up to Singleton and the New England Hwy
 >
 > or
 > -Appin
 > -Campbelltown (Hume Hwy)
 > -Liverpool
 > -Cumberland Hwy(22) to Pennant Hills Rd and Hornsby
 > -F3 freeway heading north
 >
 > 2nd route is probably a bit quicker getting through Sydney, the first
route
 > is a better ride.
 >
 > Al
 >
 > CRAIG wrote:
  > > Lucky me, I'm off to Brisbane from Melbourne via Wollongong and have
  > > to get through Sydney. Whats the best way to go through or around
  > > Sydney?? It's been 20 years since I lived in Sydney and I am sure
  > > there are a few new free/toll ways, but are there any that allow you
  > > to travel north/south. I dont mind paying the odd toll, as long as I
  > > am prepared for it and have the money ready. (Why cant you be like
  > > Melbourne and bikes travel for free??????) Anyway, whats the best
  > > way to go?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
  > > Cags
  > > R1100RT
 >
 > --
 > Al
 >
 > "Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "
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I hadn't been through Sydney before and I couldn't believe there wasn't an
arterial that carried traffic from one side to the other like there is in
Brisbane and Melbourne.We took the first option below, but it was still full
of traffic lights and 60kph suburban roads. But of course Sydney believes it
is the centre of the known universe, and looks down on anyone with the
temerity to actually want to go straight through it without stopping.

The putty is a good road, but it had one too many Beemers on it for my
liking. Just make sure you don't run yours into any braking Fizzers at the
Halfway Roadhouse!

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"CRAIG" <c DeleteThis @bloogs.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks heaps - decisions decisions. Putty road sounds good tho. Only
 > problem is that I will be leaving Wollongong at the end of the day, so
looks
 > like I will have to stick to less country roads to make as much ground as
 > possible.
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Cags
 > "Alan Pennykid" <alan_pennykid*ME*@bigpond.com> wrote in message
 > news:uri2c.89910$Wa.550@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
  > > From wollongong
  > > -Appin
  > > -Campbelltown, Narellan
  > > -Penrith, then Windsor (via Northern Rd)
  > > -Putty rd up to Singleton and the New England Hwy
  > >
  > > or
  > > -Appin
  > > -Campbelltown (Hume Hwy)
  > > -Liverpool
  > > -Cumberland Hwy(22) to Pennant Hills Rd and Hornsby
  > > -F3 freeway heading north
  > >
  > > 2nd route is probably a bit quicker getting through Sydney, the first
 > route
  > > is a better ride.
  > >
  > > Al
  > >
  > > CRAIG wrote:
   > > > Lucky me, I'm off to Brisbane from Melbourne via Wollongong and have
   > > > to get through Sydney. Whats the best way to go through or around
   > > > Sydney?? It's been 20 years since I lived in Sydney and I am sure
   > > > there are a few new free/toll ways, but are there any that allow you
   > > > to travel north/south. I dont mind paying the odd toll, as long as I
   > > > am prepared for it and have the money ready. (Why cant you be like
   > > > Melbourne and bikes travel for free??????) Anyway, whats the best
   > > > way to go?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > >
   > > > Cags
   > > > R1100RT
  > >
  > > --
  > > Al
  > >
  > > "Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "
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  > >
  > >
 >
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CRAIG <c.DeleteThis@bloogs.com> mumbled:
 > Lucky me, I'm off to Brisbane from Melbourne via Wollongong and have to get
 > through Sydney. Whats the best way to go through or around Sydney?? It's
 > been 20 years since I lived in Sydney and I am sure there are a few new
 > free/toll ways, but are there any that allow you to travel north/south. I
 > dont mind paying the odd toll, as long as I am prepared for it and have the
 > money ready. (Why cant you be like Melbourne and bikes travel for
 > free??????) Anyway, whats the best way to go?

Depends how pissed off you get with paying tolls.

If you don't care about tolls, come up through Appin to Campbelltown, jump
on the M5, and follow it all the way north, through the tunnel and up to the
Pacific Highway at Chatswood, then keep going. It'll cost you something
around $7-$8 in tolls {one at the M5, one at the end of the Eastern tunnel}.
You'll only start hitting lights/slowdowns once you get over the other side
of the harbour and hit the Pacific Hwy.

If tolls piss you off, then get to Campbelltown, then head up the Hume Hwy/
Liverpool road until you get to the Cumberland Highway, take that to
James Rouse drive, then turn right and head to Pennant Hills road, then
follow that to the freeway at Hornsby. No tolls, but a bucketload of
traffic lights and 60k zones.

DaZZa

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"Dave Mojo67" <mojo67.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in
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 > I hadn't been through Sydney before and I couldn't believe there
 > wasn't an arterial that carried traffic from one side to the other
 > like there is in Brisbane and Melbourne.

"Westlink M7 is the new name for the road previously known as
the Western Sydney Orbital. The Westlink name reflects the
motorway's role as the western link in Sydney's orbital
motorway network. Westlink M7 will be the link between the
M2, M4 and M5 motorways in the western suburbs. Major
construction started on the Westlink M7 on 7 July 2003.
The 40km Westlink M7 is Australia's biggest urban road
project and is a key missing link in Sydney’s orbital road
network of motorways." (RTA)

What they conveniently exclude from their diatribe is that
once that road is done, you *will* have the option of skirting
all the way around Syd-en-ey from one end to the other, *but*
that it will probably cost you twenty bucks in assorted
fees and tolls to make use of all of the roads.


 > The putty is a good road, but it had one too many Beemers on it for my
 > liking.


Hey! The Putty *is* our arterial that carries traffic from, er,
somewhere to somewhere else!

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 > (Why cant you be like Melbourne and bikes travel for
 > free??????) Anyway, whats the best way to go?
 >

When you get into Syd, tape up your plate. Ride through all the ETolls all
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  > > (Why cant you be like Melbourne and bikes travel for
  > > free??????) Anyway, whats the best way to go?
  > >
 >
 > When you get into Syd, tape up your plate. Ride through all the ETolls all
 > the way. You're laughing

@200 KPH +

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 > "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall RemoveThis @optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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   > > > (Why cant you be like Melbourne and bikes travel for
   > > > free??????) Anyway, whats the best way to go?
   > > >
  > >
  > > When you get into Syd, tape up your plate. Ride through all the ETolls
all
  > > the way. You're laughing
 >
 > @200 KPH +
 >
 > just dont do it everyday of the week

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CRAIG <c DeleteThis @bloogs.com> wrote:

 > Anyway, whats the best way to go?

The best way to go is the way that you know; getting lost just once
will blow off any benefits from going an alleged better way.

From the Gong, stay on the freeway into town, the Princes to St.
Peters, Newtown, City Rd, George St, over the coathanger, the Princes
again to the F3... none of that's changed for over 20 years...

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Problem is you may find yourself in Sydney at peak hour time


"CRAIG" <c.DeleteThis@bloogs.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks heaps - decisions decisions. Putty road sounds good tho. Only
 > problem is that I will be leaving Wollongong at the end of the day, so
looks
 > like I will have to stick to less country roads to make as much ground as
 > possible.
 >
 > Cheers
 >
 > Cags
 > "Alan Pennykid" <alan_pennykid*ME*@bigpond.com> wrote in message
 > news:uri2c.89910$Wa.550@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
  > > From wollongong
  > > -Appin
  > > -Campbelltown, Narellan
  > > -Penrith, then Windsor (via Northern Rd)
  > > -Putty rd up to Singleton and the New England Hwy
  > >
  > > or
  > > -Appin
  > > -Campbelltown (Hume Hwy)
  > > -Liverpool
  > > -Cumberland Hwy(22) to Pennant Hills Rd and Hornsby
  > > -F3 freeway heading north
  > >
  > > 2nd route is probably a bit quicker getting through Sydney, the first
 > route
  > > is a better ride.
  > >
  > > Al
  > >
  > > CRAIG wrote:
   > > > Lucky me, I'm off to Brisbane from Melbourne via Wollongong and have
   > > > to get through Sydney. Whats the best way to go through or around
   > > > Sydney?? It's been 20 years since I lived in Sydney and I am sure
   > > > there are a few new free/toll ways, but are there any that allow you
   > > > to travel north/south. I dont mind paying the odd toll, as long as I
   > > > am prepared for it and have the money ready. (Why cant you be like
   > > > Melbourne and bikes travel for free??????) Anyway, whats the best
   > > > way to go?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > >
   > > > Cags
   > > > R1100RT
  > >
  > > --
  > > Al
  > >
  > > "Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon. "
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  > >
  > >
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"Dave Mojo67" <mojo67.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > I hadn't been through Sydney before and I couldn't believe there wasn't an
 > arterial that carried traffic from one side to the other like there is in

Well there is actually - M5 goes from Hume Hwy as a freeway all the way through
& under the city and harbour until it drops you out on the Pacific Hwy in the
North Shore, you have to trudge up it for 10-15 K (60K/70K but dual/triple lane
and hardly a suburban rd) and then you get onto the F3 to Newcastle. The only
navigation between Goulburn and Newcastle is to ensure you take the Pacific
Highway exit after the harbour (gore hill freeway) rather than staying on it and
ending up in the west, other than that it's just follow your nose and head
north.

Almost exactly the same as Briz - logan motorway, little bit of semisuburban
multi lane on the north side of the city then back onto freeway. Similar to an
east west run in melb where you're mostly freeway except that confusing poorly
signposted bit near the city.

 > Brisbane and Melbourne.We took the first option below, but it was still full
 > of traffic lights and 60kph suburban roads. But of course Sydney believes it
 > is the centre of the known universe, and looks down on anyone with the
 > temerity to actually want to go straight through it without stopping.

Nobody on ausmoto would tell you the above because it's boring as batshit !!
It's not a bike road it's a road for stupid cagers

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 > "Johnnie5" <ducatiau.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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  >> "Uncle Bully" <wakeupcall.TakeThisOut@optushome.com.au.REMOVE> wrote in message
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   >>> When you get into Syd, tape up your plate. Ride through all
   >>> the ETolls all the way. You're laughing
  >> @200 KPH +
  >> just dont do it everyday of the week
 > at the same time each day

On one wheel.

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GB wrote:
 >
 > "Dave Mojo67" <mojo67.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
 > news:euk2c.90198$Wa.77790@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
  > > I hadn't been through Sydney before and I couldn't believe there
  > > wasn't an arterial that carried traffic from one side to the other
  > > like there is in Brisbane and Melbourne.
 >
 > "Westlink M7 is the new name for the road previously known as
 > the Western Sydney Orbital. The Westlink name reflects the
 > motorway's role as the western link in Sydney's orbital
 > motorway network. Westlink M7 will be the link between the
 > M2, M4 and M5 motorways in the western suburbs. Major
 > construction started on the Westlink M7 on 7 July 2003.
 > The 40km Westlink M7 is Australia's biggest urban road
 > project and is a key missing link in Sydney’s orbital road
 > network of motorways." (RTA)
 >
 > What they conveniently exclude from their diatribe is that
 > once that road is done, you *will* have the option of skirting
 > all the way around Syd-en-ey from one end to the other, *but*
 > that it will probably cost you twenty bucks in assorted
 > fees and tolls to make use of all of the roads.


They should call 'em "TOLLWAYS" just to make it clear! They are not
motorways nor freeways but tollways.

And I'd rather pay $3.30 and use the M? to avoid the cunberland road
(read traffic light maze) and then go up ring road 3 ... much quicker
and less hassle.

But the best way around sydney is the putty. Even with the sports bikes
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On 07 Mar 2004 12:19:19 GMT, not.DeleteThis@today.thanks.net (Gary Woodman) scribbled in chalk:

 >CRAIG <c.DeleteThis@bloogs.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Anyway, whats the best way to go?
 >
 >The best way to go is the way that you know; getting lost just once
 >will blow off any benefits from going an alleged better way.
 >
 >From the Gong, stay on the freeway into town, the Princes to St.
 >Peters, Newtown, City Rd, George St, over the coathanger, the Princes
 >again to the F3... none of that's changed for over 20 years...
 >
 >Gary

I'd do that, except for turning right at President Ave off the princes hwy, going to brighton le sands, thrn left onto, uhm, hell,
that main street in brighton, and following that road north, be sure to stick to the left two lanes after going under the airport
tunnel, and stick to the right two thereafter (make sure you go into the area marked "TOLLWAY", etc. so you can go under
the city & make sure you take the right hand option once you get past the toll booth. After that, just follow the road and don't
turn off elsewhere and you'll pop out on the other side of the harbour.

Confused? so am i, but it'll make sense once you look at a roadmap

Mike.S
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