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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:53 pm
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<3d5af4c5-be0b-45e1-83eb-73afa51d0525 DeleteThis @s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman DeleteThis @eku.edu> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 12:46 pm, Volker Bartheld <dr vers... DeleteThis @freenet.de> wrote:
> > Hi!
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> > > On Feb 8, 1:22 pm, JayC <j... DeleteThis @sysmatrix.net> wrote:
> > >> One of the hot mods for new CRFs is to replace the float screws with
> > >> teeny allen-head bolts - I'm doing it.
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 08:30:34 -0800 (PST), Tiago Rocha wrote:
> > > I love allen bolts. All screw I round up, I replace for allen. My carb
> > > is all-allen.
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> > "Torx" [1] is the hot ticket here. That way, you'll be able to strip even
> > the tiniest threads with the least diameter or pop off the heads entirely
> > with great ease. Another advantage: You're not tempted to drain the
> > carb/open the bowl during a ride because you're not carrying the right
> > tool(s). 
> >
> > Volker
> >
> > P.S.: I rounded the corners of my '94 CR250's bowl screws (Phillips AFAIR)
> > once. So far no problems with Honda XR600R, KTM 620 SC and also the Yam
> > 426's $$$-Keihin. I'm using quality screwdrivers [2] and probably no
> > excessive torque.
> >
> > [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torx
> > [2]http://de.hoffmann-gmbh.de/K38/images/pdf/668260.pdf
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> > --
> > mailto: V B A R T H E L D at G M X dot D E
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> I've probably removed the bowl screws on my 300 about 1000 times. I'm
> still using the same screws. They are defininetly not pristine
> anymore, but still functional.  You just don't have to make them
> very tight.
MX Tuner knew all about this. Turns out the float bowl (and slide cap)
screws are "narrow #2 Philips head" or something close to that term.
Tool makers actually make a narrow #2 driver which fits those screws
better than a standard #2. The screw head LOOKS like a #1 Philips only
because the wings are not as wide, but it is actually sized for a #2
driver.
If you try to remove it with a #1 driver, guaranteed strip.
Here's an example:
<http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=hand&item_ID=55550&g
roup_ID=720&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog>
You can also find these bits marked "for drywall screws."
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:06 am
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No it doesn't (I know you're joking to some degree). Loosen the phillips
screws on the carb boots both to the intake and the airbox and you can
rotate it juuuust enough to get to the bowl plug on the bottom. Take that
plug out and there you go...Pilot and Main city. Nothing to it...3 minutes
and you're done. I've done it a number of times on my '04x.
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> "JayC" <jwc DeleteThis @sysmatrix.net> wrote in message
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>> One of the hot mods for new CRFs is to replace the float screws with
>> teeny allen-head bolts - I'm doing it.
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> I've been doing this on every bike I've had for the last 25 years. On
> many bikes, it enables bowl removal without taking the carb out.
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> Of course, the CRF will still require removal of the sub-frame, air-box,
> rear shock, and splitting the cases to perform jetting changes. :-/
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> -Jeff-
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:44 am
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:35 -0500, "Andy Waddell"
<andywaddell.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>No it doesn't (I know you're joking to some degree). Loosen the phillips
>screws on the carb boots both to the intake and the airbox and you can
>rotate it juuuust enough to get to the bowl plug on the bottom. Take that
>plug out and there you go...Pilot and Main city. Nothing to it...3 minutes
>and you're done. I've done it a number of times on my '04x.
On any of the aluminum framed bikes I've worked on (CRF-Rs and
YZ-Fs), there wasn't enough clearance between the frame rail to
rotate the carb enough to do much at all. Certainly no needle or
pilot changes. Or even swapping out the air screw. Main jet,
maybe.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:53 am
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Pilot and main are right next to each other such that removing the bowl plug
(17mm I think) gets you both. Turn the top of the carb to the right/toward
the kickstarter side. At least on the FCR that comes with a 250x.
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> On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:06:35 -0500, "Andy Waddell"
> <andywaddell.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>No it doesn't (I know you're joking to some degree). Loosen the phillips
>>screws on the carb boots both to the intake and the airbox and you can
>>rotate it juuuust enough to get to the bowl plug on the bottom. Take that
>>plug out and there you go...Pilot and Main city. Nothing to it...3 minutes
>>and you're done. I've done it a number of times on my '04x.
>
> On any of the aluminum framed bikes I've worked on (CRF-Rs and
> YZ-Fs), there wasn't enough clearance between the frame rail to
> rotate the carb enough to do much at all. Certainly no needle or
> pilot changes. Or even swapping out the air screw. Main jet,
> maybe.
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:36 am
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"Andy Waddell" <andywaddell.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> No it doesn't (I know you're joking to some degree). Loosen the phillips
> screws on the carb boots both to the intake and the airbox and you can
> rotate it juuuust enough to get to the bowl plug on the bottom. Take that
> plug out and there you go...Pilot and Main city. Nothing to it...3 minutes
> and you're done. I've done it a number of times on my '04x.
Did you used to work in the circus?
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:44 pm
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No, but if you have that kid's address there ARE some cycle servicing items
he could definitely be useful in!
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> "Andy Waddell" <andywaddell.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> No it doesn't (I know you're joking to some degree). Loosen the phillips
>> screws on the carb boots both to the intake and the airbox and you can
>> rotate it juuuust enough to get to the bowl plug on the bottom. Take that
>> plug out and there you go...Pilot and Main city. Nothing to it...3
>> minutes and you're done. I've done it a number of times on my '04x.
>
> Did you used to work in the circus?
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> http://www.limbermen.com/rubberboy/RUBBERBOY_SEQUENCE_6.jpg
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:06 pm
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:53:57 -0500, "Andy Waddell"
<andywaddell RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>Pilot and main are right next to each other such that removing the bowl plug
>(17mm I think) gets you both. Turn the top of the carb to the right/toward
>the kickstarter side. At least on the FCR that comes with a 250x.
I've always had to pull the bowl to get the pilot out. I'll try
harder next time.
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:36 pm
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:51 pm
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"Craig" <googlegroupmail DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Sounds familure!
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> SpongeMike Squareturn?
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> Craig
I like that, and it fits well on so many levels, but I've also seen him
sliding like a speedway rider in frighteningly large arcs. I'm not sure how
to reconcile these two sides to Mike's multi-faceted personality. I think
"SpongeMike" has a nice ring to it, though.
Me, I'm a momentum and finesse kind of rider, but then, Mike's seen me
sliding like a speedway rider in a frighteningly too-large arc that ended in
a Hail Mary bermshot on the 4 inch high bulldozer berm at the edge of the
earth. Smooth. Riding with Mike just seems to pull you into adventures like
that.
I think I might be Patrick.
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:02 am
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On Feb 11, 12:51 am, "Tim H" <Tim H....DeleteThis@somethingorother.com> wrote:
> I like that, and it fits well on so many levels, but I've also seen him
> sliding like a speedway rider in frighteningly large arcs. I'm not sure how
> to reconcile these two sides to Mike's multi-faceted personality. I think
> "SpongeMike" has a nice ring to it, though.
> Me, I'm a momentum and finesse kind of rider, but then, Mike's seen me
> sliding like a speedway rider in a frighteningly too-large arc that ended in
> a Hail Mary bermshot on the 4 inch high bulldozer berm at the edge of the
> earth. Smooth. Riding with Mike just seems to pull you into adventures like
> that.
> I think I might be Patrick.
Tami gets the credit - she came up with the name in a ride report she
posted a while back.
Google.... Google... Google...
Turns out I had it wrong, it's SpongeMike Squaretrail.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.motorcycles.dirt/browse_thread/thre...3623f8e
Anyhow, I liked it too.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:10 pm
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