New Soccer Mom Hauler Suggestions?

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Yup. I want one.

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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:31:23 -0400, "Jay C"
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 >I've come to the conclusion that my Chevy Tahoe LTD is SUCH a piece of shit
 >that it looks like going to have to get rid of it. I can't really afford to
 >take the hit of dumping it now, but it's not safe to transport the kids
 >anymore, and it doesn't look like it's current bevy of malfunctions can be
 >fixed (so we can't even sell it). I suppose I could park it overnight in
 >Lawrence, but I really want to drive it through the dealership showroom and
 >set it on fire - either way, I'm in the market for another kid-hauler.
 >
 >My wife likes driving a big gas-guzzling SUV, primarily for the full sized
 >7-passenger capability with a full-sized rear seat (though she doesn't want
 >a van - I think it's penis envy). Unfortunately, after the nightmare we've
 >had (and are still having) with our Tahoe, buying another American vehicle
 >is extremely unlikely. New trucks are simply too f'in expensive, so I'd
 >like to find something a few years old.
 >
 >Any suggestions?
 >
 >Jay

Nissan Armada.
My old lady is begging for a 4 door Titan. I shouldn't have showed it
to her until I had the cash for a down payment!

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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:31:23 -0400, "Jay C"
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 >I've come to the conclusion that my Chevy Tahoe LTD is SUCH a piece of shit
 >that it looks like going to have to get rid of it. I can't really afford to
 >take the hit of dumping it now, but it's not safe to transport the kids
 >anymore, and it doesn't look like it's current bevy of malfunctions can be
 >fixed (so we can't even sell it). I suppose I could park it overnight in
 >Lawrence, but I really want to drive it through the dealership showroom and
 >set it on fire - either way, I'm in the market for another kid-hauler.
 >
 >My wife likes driving a big gas-guzzling SUV, primarily for the full sized
 >7-passenger capability with a full-sized rear seat (though she doesn't want
 >a van - I think it's penis envy). Unfortunately, after the nightmare we've
 >had (and are still having) with our Tahoe, buying another American vehicle
 >is extremely unlikely. New trucks are simply too f'in expensive, so I'd
 >like to find something a few years old.
 >
 >Any suggestions?
 >
 >Jay
 >

I feel your pain... my vehicle is history too as soon as I find something
that doesn't suck. What I see for options:

Buy American WITH the bit warranty. Never NOT.

Pre-96 F250's give me a hardon.

Jap stuff (No offense)
The only Lexus I'd consider is the Land Cruiser and I'm not sure it sucks
less than the GX... but it HAS to.

The Toyota Sequoia seems like a worthy consideration. Big and reasonably
priced.. I hope your Toyota dealer is less full of himself than mine.
Chevy-san...

Pacifica with the big warranty?

How about a conversion project on that cool freightliner van I see around?

Good luck.. cars suck.

Mike


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96 XR400
74 CZ250 Enduro
70 CT70
71 KG 100 (Hodaka-powered)
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1960'S station wagon with a 427 in it
put in a jamming stereo & the kids will love it
(mom will like the motor, cause it works)
(dad will like the motor, cause he can fix it)
john
muscle cars are great

"Jay C" <jwcNOSPAM.DeleteThis@NOSPAMsysmatrix.net> wrote in message
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 > I've come to the conclusion that my Chevy Tahoe LTD is SUCH a piece of
 > shit
 > that it looks like going to have to get rid of it. I can't really afford
 > to
 > take the hit of dumping it now, but it's not safe to transport the kids
 > anymore, and it doesn't look like it's current bevy of malfunctions can be
 > fixed (so we can't even sell it). I suppose I could park it overnight in
 > Lawrence, but I really want to drive it through the dealership showroom
 > and
 > set it on fire - either way, I'm in the market for another kid-hauler.
 >
 > My wife likes driving a big gas-guzzling SUV, primarily for the full sized
 > 7-passenger capability with a full-sized rear seat (though she doesn't
 > want
 > a van - I think it's penis envy). Unfortunately, after the nightmare
 > we've
 > had (and are still having) with our Tahoe, buying another American vehicle
 > is extremely unlikely. New trucks are simply too f'in expensive, so I'd
 > like to find something a few years old.
 >
 > Any suggestions?
 >
 > Jay
 >
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Jay C <jwcNOSPAM.DeleteThis@nospamsysmatrix.net> wrote:
 > like to find something a few years old.

Sorry, I didn't notice the "few years old" until I replied, but here goes
anyway. You said vans were not suitable, but a Dodge Sprinter looks to
me like something more than a typical van. Far as I know it's a new model
for 2004 in the USA, so not much chance for a used one.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dodge.com/sprinter/" target="_blank">http://www.dodge.com/sprinter/</a>

With the seats out it would hold a nice assortment of bikes

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Holy sheit, thems is uglier than ....


Tim O wrote:
 > On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:31:23 -0400, "Jay C"
 > <jwcNOSPAM RemoveThis @NOSPAMsysmatrix.net> wrote:
 >
  >> I've come to the conclusion that my Chevy Tahoe LTD is SUCH a piece
  >> of shit that it looks like going to have to get rid of it. I can't
  >> really afford to take the hit of dumping it now, but it's not safe
  >> to transport the kids anymore, and it doesn't look like it's current
  >> bevy of malfunctions can be fixed (so we can't even sell it). I
  >> suppose I could park it overnight in Lawrence, but I really want to
  >> drive it through the dealership showroom and set it on fire - either
  >> way, I'm in the market for another kid-hauler.
  >>
  >> My wife likes driving a big gas-guzzling SUV, primarily for the full
  >> sized 7-passenger capability with a full-sized rear seat (though she
  >> doesn't want a van - I think it's penis envy). Unfortunately, after
  >> the nightmare we've had (and are still having) with our Tahoe,
  >> buying another American vehicle is extremely unlikely. New trucks
  >> are simply too f'in expensive, so I'd like to find something a few
  >> years old.
  >>
  >> Any suggestions?
  >>
  >> Jay
 >
 > Nissan Armada.
 > My old lady is begging for a 4 door Titan. I shouldn't have showed it
 > to her until I had the cash for a down payment!
 >
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:39:12 -0500, "Plowboy2"
<stingre.removethis_@yahoo!.removeit> wrote:

 >Holy sheit, thems is uglier than ....

Yea, I don't totally disagree with you. You can get the newer ones
without that huge chrome front end which helps a bit, but appearance
isn't the issue for me anymore. That's the nut of Jays decision, too.

I have a 2002 E250 that hasn't left me stranded, but it's had way more
than its fair share of problems, including a recurring "Check Engine "
light the dealer can't figure out, an ignition switch that spins
freely without a key, paint totally flaking off the front and rear
bumpers, and eating a set of front tires in under 24,000 miles because
the alignment was all screwed up right from the factory.
I'm also pretty skeptical the modular 5.4 V8 is putting out the power
Ford is claiming, because they have zero balls. I thought it might
have been my van (and possibly related to the check engine light)
until I drove another 5.4 that was equally gutless.

The domestics still own the heavy duty pickup market, but I feel
they've been exceeded in the SUV, mini pickup and light duty full size
pickup segments by Toyota and Nissan.

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"Mike W." <outofthe RemoveThis @emailbiz.com> wrote in message
 > I feel your pain... my vehicle is history too as soon as I find something
 > that doesn't suck. What I see for options:
 >
 > Buy American WITH the bit warranty. Never NOT.

Did it. Have a 5yr/100k on the shitbox m- useless. Warranties are only as
good as the IQ of the service tech that is diagnosing your vehicle. 'Nuff
said.

 > Pre-96 F250's give me a hardon.

Me too. Especially a F250 with Jennifer Love Hewitt lying across the hood.

 > Jap stuff (No offense)
 > The only Lexus I'd consider is the Land Cruiser and I'm not sure it sucks
 > less than the GX... but it HAS to.

The Land Cruiser is a Toyota and I looked at one. My wife likes them, but
they are too much dough and too small.

 > The Toyota Sequoia seems like a worthy consideration. Big and reasonably
 > priced.. I hope your Toyota dealer is less full of himself than mine.

Yea, the Toyota Sequoia is a possible - same as my truck...at least it'll
run, if nothing else. Lots of dough there too...

 > How about a conversion project on that cool freightliner van I see around?

Getting closer to that every minute...

 > Good luck.. cars suck.

Seriously.

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I own a 96 Toyota Land Cruiser (FZJ-80)- best vehicle I have owned. Solid
front axle, all wheel drive, heavy, safe, and super reliable. Probably not
big enough for a bunch of kids, although it seats seven. The 2000 and newer
100 series are tough trucks and nice inside but lack the solid front axle of
the pre 2000 models (they are also 70k new).

Toyota Sequoia is a nice option if you need more room, don't need the off
road capability, and want to spend less. I have heard good things about
them.



"Jay C" <jwcNOSPAM DeleteThis @NOSPAMsysmatrix.net> wrote in message
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 > "Mike W." <outofthe DeleteThis @emailbiz.com> wrote in message
  > > I feel your pain... my vehicle is history too as soon as I find
something
  > > that doesn't suck. What I see for options:
  > >
  > > Buy American WITH the bit warranty. Never NOT.
 >
 > Did it. Have a 5yr/100k on the shitbox m- useless. Warranties are only
as
 > good as the IQ of the service tech that is diagnosing your vehicle. 'Nuff
 > said.
 >
  > > Pre-96 F250's give me a hardon.
 >
 > Me too. Especially a F250 with Jennifer Love Hewitt lying across the
hood.
 >
  > > Jap stuff (No offense)
  > > The only Lexus I'd consider is the Land Cruiser and I'm not sure it
sucks
  > > less than the GX... but it HAS to.
 >
 > The Land Cruiser is a Toyota and I looked at one. My wife likes them, but
 > they are too much dough and too small.
 >
  > > The Toyota Sequoia seems like a worthy consideration. Big and reasonably
  > > priced.. I hope your Toyota dealer is less full of himself than mine.
 >
 > Yea, the Toyota Sequoia is a possible - same as my truck...at least it'll
 > run, if nothing else. Lots of dough there too...
 >
  > > How about a conversion project on that cool freightliner van I see
around?
 >
 > Getting closer to that every minute...
 >
  > > Good luck.. cars suck.
 >
 > Seriously.
 >
 > Jay
 >
 >




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"Tim O" <timo56REMOVE RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > Nissan Armada.
 > My old lady is begging for a 4 door Titan. I shouldn't have showed it
 > to her until I had the cash for a down payment!

The only real problem with the Armada is price (gotta be new, since they
are). Also gas milage. I have a friend who bought a Titan 4x4. He's
getting between 8 and 11 MPG, depending on load, I imagine the SUV would be
worse.

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"john" <john RemoveThis @ain.nnt.here> wrote in message
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 > 1960'S station wagon with a 427 in it
 > put in a jamming stereo & the kids will love it
 > (mom will like the motor, cause it works)
 > (dad will like the motor, cause he can fix it)

You and I definitely think alike. Now, to get the wife on board...

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eBay has an
2489742751 (9 passenger)
2489805564
I suppose there's always the Volvo turbo wagon?
if you can't get her to go vintage...
I do like the old woodiewagons but they really handle poorly.



"Jay C" <jwcNOSPAM.RemoveThis@NOSPAMsysmatrix.net> wrote in message
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 > "john" <john.RemoveThis@ain.nnt.here> wrote in message
 > news:10kf6qc3qhjq252@corp.supernews.com...
  >> 1960'S station wagon with a 427 in it
  >> put in a jamming stereo & the kids will love it
  >> (mom will like the motor, cause it works)
  >> (dad will like the motor, cause he can fix it)
 >
 > You and I definitely think alike. Now, to get the wife on board...
 >
 > Jay
 >
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Jay C wrote:

 > Me too. Especially a F250 with Jennifer Love Hewitt lying across the hood.

Where can I get one of these? Think the wife will like it?

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