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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:55 pm
Post subject: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki
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It was mentioned in passing "had I thought about putting a chair on the
Diversion instead" and I went hmmmm.
*thoughts (or what I choose to call thoughts at least) so far*
The Diversion could be fitted with a chair too, although it would (of
course) be less grunty than the Kwaka.
92ps at the rear wheel is similar to what Alan Pennykids K100RS had
(they are rated at 94ps from memory) and similar to my mates old CB900
outfit (90ps) and current GTR1000 outfit (94ps) so it would do the job
(particuarly given that if I'm riding the outfit I'll have at least Jodz
and probably Jodz and Molly so I'm unlikely to be hooning).
Not sure how the Diversion would go if I put a trailer on the back
though (which Jodz mentioned as a possibility for later), the Kawa OTOH
shouldn't have a problem even with the trailer.
The Divvy OTOH has shaft drive (no chains to replace), can run _much_
cheaper tyres, has a more protective fairing, is fitted with panniers
and has a long distance better riding position. The Divvy is already
short geared compared to the earlier XJ900's so probably the shaft drive
gearing would be ok (probably). Also the Divvy has a larger 24 litre
fuel tank and uses less fuel so I'd probably get away without a long
range tank, which would save several hundred dollars minimum. The
longevity of the XJ series of motors is not in question, yah can't kill
the buggers with a stick.
What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:55 pm
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G-S wrote:
> It was mentioned in passing "had I thought about putting a chair on the
> Diversion instead" and I went hmmmm.
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> *thoughts (or what I choose to call thoughts at least) so far*
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> What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
ZRX.
The divvy does the job of a tourer much better than the Z so why lose
the bike you're more likely to go away on ? While I'm sure the side car
solution gives you a good family option, there will be times you'll want
to go to a rally by yourself or two up
JL
(but I wouldn't listen to me 'cos I couldn't ever see myself doing the
sidecar thing - if I wanted a 3 wheeler I'd trike a Rocket 3) |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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JL wrote:
> if I wanted a 3 wheeler I'd trike a Rocket 3)
The sidecar is quite a different thing, and has some advantages over a
tricycle. Avoiding potholes is much easier, and traction can be better,
with no diff-slip. You can also revert to solo, which is what I've done
with my current daily rider. >> Stay informed about: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:55 am
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JL wrote:
> G-S wrote:
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>> It was mentioned in passing "had I thought about putting a chair on
>> the Diversion instead" and I went hmmmm.
>>
>> *thoughts (or what I choose to call thoughts at least) so far*
>
> snip
>
>> What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
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> ZRX.
>
> The divvy does the job of a tourer much better than the Z so why lose
> the bike you're more likely to go away on ? While I'm sure the side car
> solution gives you a good family option, there will be times you'll want
> to go to a rally by yourself or two up
Hmmm there is that isn't there... if I toured solo it'd be on the Z if I
chaired the Divvy. You know... sometimes I miss the most obvious things 
G-S
> JL
> (but I wouldn't listen to me 'cos I couldn't ever see myself doing the
> sidecar thing - if I wanted a 3 wheeler I'd trike a Rocket 3)
I wouldn't knock back a ride on that if you ever get around to it 
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:55 am
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Why not buy another bike and sidecar it?
"G-S" <geoff.RemoveThis@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
news:48uaibFlphi0U1@individual.net...
> It was mentioned in passing "had I thought about putting a chair on the
> Diversion instead" and I went hmmmm.
>
> *thoughts (or what I choose to call thoughts at least) so far*
>
> The Diversion could be fitted with a chair too, although it would (of
> course) be less grunty than the Kwaka.
>
> 92ps at the rear wheel is similar to what Alan Pennykids K100RS had (they
> are rated at 94ps from memory) and similar to my mates old CB900 outfit
> (90ps) and current GTR1000 outfit (94ps) so it would do the job
> (particuarly given that if I'm riding the outfit I'll have at least Jodz
> and probably Jodz and Molly so I'm unlikely to be hooning).
>
> Not sure how the Diversion would go if I put a trailer on the back though
> (which Jodz mentioned as a possibility for later), the Kawa OTOH shouldn't
> have a problem even with the trailer.
>
> The Divvy OTOH has shaft drive (no chains to replace), can run _much_
> cheaper tyres, has a more protective fairing, is fitted with panniers and
> has a long distance better riding position. The Divvy is already short
> geared compared to the earlier XJ900's so probably the shaft drive gearing
> would be ok (probably). Also the Divvy has a larger 24 litre fuel tank
> and uses less fuel so I'd probably get away without a long range tank,
> which would save several hundred dollars minimum. The longevity of the XJ
> series of motors is not in question, yah can't kill the buggers with a
> stick.
>
> What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
>
>
> G-S
> >> Stay informed about: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:55 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:55 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:55 am
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sharkey wrote:
> JL wrote:
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>> While I'm sure the side car solution gives you a good family option,
>> there will be times you'll want to go to a rally by yourself or two up
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> That's what weber kettle BBQs are for, to weigh down the sidecar.
<shakes head in bemusement> You and I live in very different worlds Mr
Sharkey !
JL
(but then the last rally I went to was in the eighties, never really
"got them" to be honest) >> Stay informed about: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:55 am
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JL wrote:
> sharkey wrote:
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> > That's what weber kettle BBQs are for, to weigh down the sidecar.
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> <shakes head in bemusement> You and I live in very different worlds Mr
> Sharkey !
McArgle turned up to Dargo a couple of years ago sans Sally, who'd
decided to take her own bike somewhere else ... unfortunately, he'd
already packed everything assuming he was coming so he filled the car
with weber BBQ, coal, collapsible table, etc. just to weigh it down ...
> (but then the last rally I went to was in the eighties, never really
> "got them" to be honest)
Well, I'm more of a minimalist traveller myself (pretty much everything
fits in my Andy Strapz panniers) but sidecar freaks are mighty handy to
know when you discover you need a cast iron work / chainsaw / side of beef.
-----sharks (and trikes carry firewood just fine!) >> Stay informed about: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:58 am
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:43:06 +1000, G-S <geoff.DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote:
>It was mentioned in passing "had I thought about putting a chair on the
>Diversion instead" and I went hmmmm.
>Not sure how the Diversion would go if I put a trailer on the back
>though (which Jodz mentioned as a possibility for later)
Bloody hell Geoff, you are wearing her down
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>What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
Def the zrx mate - mere fact it has more grunt overall, easier to
lower the gearing for the chair.
johno
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:58 am
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:58 am
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Boxer wrote:
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> "G-S" <geoff.DeleteThis@castbus.com.au> wrote in message
> news:48uaibFlphi0U1@individual.net...
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>> What do you think people... Diversion or ZRX for the chair hauler?
>>
>>
>> G-S
>
> My preference would be for a water cooled bike, a tug gets a hard life.
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> Boxer
Yeah... there's that too... looking more like the original idea of the ZRX
is the go
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:19 pm
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G-S wrote:
> Whereas the Divvy outfit with Jodz, Me and Molly would have about the same
> power to weight ratio as a BMW 650 single (again solo with me on it, full
> fuel). Add a trailer and the power to weight ratio is about the same as a
> GPX250 (solo, full fuel, me again). That's getting a tad marginal (BTH may
> enjoy riding 250's around OZ but I wouldn't
How can you tell until you give it a try? If I recall correctly, Nev
had fun riding a CT110 across a swath of Qeensland...
BTH
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:35 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:55 pm
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sharkey wrote:
> Well, I'm more of a minimalist traveller myself (pretty much everything
> fits in my Andy Strapz panniers) but sidecar freaks are mighty handy to
> know when you discover you need a cast iron work / chainsaw / side of beef.
I'm probably not minimalist myself but I can't envisage taking a weber
with me to improve the weight distribution !
JL >> Stay informed about: Sidecar Musings Part 2 - Diversion vs Kawasaki |
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