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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:28 pm
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for Rodney...
and 2 kayaks
and 1 canoe
and 1 atv
and odds and ends (pool stuff).

I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
need one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and
it'd take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood
and keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond
that, what are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World
things?

ASSHOLE#104 Len

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:49 pm
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AH#104 wrote:

> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
> need one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and
> it'd take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood
> and keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond
> that, what are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World
> things?

In my humble experience, nothing is temporary except things you want to
be permanent. The wood shed will likely be there forever.

The steel mini-pole-barns are good if you stake 'em down properly. But
what a guy does with the material when he takes it down is a problem.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:50 pm
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"AH#104" <ah104 RemoveThis @yourhat.att.net> wrote in message
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> for Rodney...
> and 2 kayaks
> and 1 canoe
> and 1 atv
> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>
> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I need
> one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and it'd
> take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood and
> keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond that, what
> are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World things?

They work okay. That is to say they will do the job you described. However,
there are better alternatives out there and probably some within spitting
distance of your place. The advantage is they will end up being better built
for the same $ or customized for just a bit more. This is a case where there
is no advantage to paying a middle man a profit. The local manufacturers can
give you a lot more for the same $ and you stand a good chance of ending up
with something that looks nice and is serviceable for a heck of a lot longer
than you think.

Oh yeah, doubling the size you think you need will result in something 30%
smaller than what you will wish you had.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:27 pm
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AH#104 <ah104 DeleteThis @yourhat.att.net> wrote:
: for Rodney...
: and 2 kayaks
: and 1 canoe
: and 1 atv
: and odds and ends (pool stuff).

: I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
: need one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and
: it'd take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood
: and keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond
: that, what are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World
: things?

I'm not real up to date on sheds, but I know one thing: figure out how
big you need it, then double the size and add a little more. It will
still be too small.

I'd look around the neighborhood, ask folks who hace nice sheds where
they got them or who built them. It's nice to have someone local to yell
at if it gets screwed up.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:34 pm
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AH#104 wrote:
> for Rodney...
> and 2 kayaks
> and 1 canoe
> and 1 atv
> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>
> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
> need one at the cabin.

Something that can hold such LARGE and long items like 2 kayaks, a
canoe, an atv, yer bikes, and other stuff, it's gonna be a large structure.
I don't even know about Home Depot's pre-made stuff, but regardless,
it's gonna have to be set securely on a set foundation anyway, and have
to meet the rules, codes, and regluations set forth by where you reside.
Even Home Depot sez that.

Soooo, I would check what size is "allowed" by law, before you need a
permit to assemble even a "shed" that can house yer stuff, let alone
what stable ground yer gonna place it on.

NC laws are most likely VERY different than NJ,(DUH!) but, it's still
wise to check it out first before they tell you, you can't have that
after you paid and/or wasted a lot of money.

On the otherhand, I just recently bought one of those goofy RUBBERMADE
sheds, and put it up in my yard!
Did it (almost only by) myself, and yes, it DID only take 45 minutes!

I admit, the wife made the foundation all by herself!

I'll post a pic of the SUPERMAX JR next door... later.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:06 pm
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Bill Bruford wrote:

> AH#104 wrote:
>
>> for Rodney...
>> and 2 kayaks
>> and 1 canoe
>> and 1 atv
>> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>>
>> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
>> need one at the cabin.
>
>
> Something that can hold such LARGE and long items like 2 kayaks, a
> canoe, an atv, yer bikes, and other stuff, it's gonna be a large structure.
> I don't even know about Home Depot's pre-made stuff, but regardless,
> it's gonna have to be set securely on a set foundation anyway, and have
> to meet the rules, codes, and regluations set forth by where you reside.
> Even Home Depot sez that.
>
> Soooo, I would check what size is "allowed" by law, before you need a
> permit to assemble even a "shed" that can house yer stuff, let alone
> what stable ground yer gonna place it on.
>
> NC laws are most likely VERY different than NJ,(DUH!) but, it's still
> wise to check it out first before they tell you, you can't have that
> after you paid and/or wasted a lot of money.
>
> On the otherhand, I just recently bought one of those goofy RUBBERMADE
> sheds, and put it up in my yard!
> Did it (almost only by) myself, and yes, it DID only take 45 minutes!
>
> I admit, the wife made the foundation all by herself!
>
> I'll post a pic of the SUPERMAX JR next door... later.

Just posted.
And I apologize, it's the Bigmax Jr.
http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/product.jhtml?prodId=HPProd150133
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:33 pm
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AH#104 wrote:

> Bill Bruford" <Earthworks DeleteThis @drums.gov> wrote in message
> news:M_Rmi.22$ip4.19@newsfe12.lga...
>
>>Bill Bruford wrote:
>>
>>
>>>AH#104 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>for Rodney...
>>>>and 2 kayaks
>>>>and 1 canoe
>>>>and 1 atv
>>>>and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>>>>
>>>>I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
>>>>need one at the cabin.
>>>
>>>
>>>Something that can hold such LARGE and long items like 2 kayaks, a
>>>canoe, an atv, yer bikes, and other stuff, it's gonna be a large
>>>structure.
>>>I don't even know about Home Depot's pre-made stuff, but regardless,
>>>it's gonna have to be set securely on a set foundation anyway, and
>>>have to meet the rules, codes, and regluations set forth by where you
>>>reside.
>>> Even Home Depot sez that.
>>>
>>>Soooo, I would check what size is "allowed" by law, before you need a
>>>permit to assemble even a "shed" that can house yer stuff, let alone
>>>what stable ground yer gonna place it on.
>>>
>>>NC laws are most likely VERY different than NJ,(DUH!) but, it's still
>>>wise to check it out first before they tell you, you can't have that
>>>after you paid and/or wasted a lot of money.
>>>
>>>On the otherhand, I just recently bought one of those goofy
>>>RUBBERMADE sheds, and put it up in my yard!
>>> Did it (almost only by) myself, and yes, it DID only take 45
>>>minutes!
>>>
>>>I admit, the wife made the foundation all by herself!
>>>
>>>I'll post a pic of the SUPERMAX JR next door... later.
>>
>>Just posted.
>>And I apologize, it's the Bigmax Jr.
>>http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/product.jhtml?prodId=HPProd150133
>
>
> How do you burp it when you close the door?

Like me, it's vented in a strange way.

NOT to be cornfused with Tupperware.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:20 pm
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"AH#104" wrote...
> for Rodney...
> and 2 kayaks
> and 1 canoe
> and 1 atv
> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>
> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I need
> one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and it'd
> take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood and
> keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond that, what
> are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World things?

Shed? You need a barn.
OK, I've built a few of those shed kits and a few from scratch.
Most of those kits (depending on style) offer very little overhead storage
space. You really need to follow the directions to a T, They don't give you
much room for error.
On the upside they go together fairly quickly with very little waste to deal
with. Everything (most times) is included with the material list so there's
little chance of having to make return trips for something you forgot.

If you build it from scratch, you can build it however you want to. If you
do so,e serious planning you can keep your trips to the store to a minimum.

If it were me I'd build the shed closer to the house for several reasons.
Security, shorter trips, and flooding. Don't know what the chances are of
the lake rising but I suspect a shed isn't too buoyant.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:22 am
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:16:05 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104.TakeThisOut@yourhat.att.net> wrote:

>for Rodney...
>and 2 kayaks
>and 1 canoe
>and 1 atv
>and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>
>I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
>need one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and
>it'd take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood
>and keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond
>that, what are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World
>things?
>
>ASSHOLE#104 Len
>

I've already learned that you've done your homework planning the remodel
of the cabin, so I'll just throw out a couple of data points & come up & enjoy
whatever you do.
First, everyone is right about size. No matter how big you make it, it
ain't big enough. Remember my shop in Jax? Planning started as a shed. Every
planning session it got bigger. I finally built it before it became a
skyscraper..........it was too small. The mowers wound up out back.....<shrug>
Second, think about the foundation. If it's large enough to store your
stuff, it'll need a foundation &/or floor. If the floor is above ground the
vehicles will be difficult to get up & in. If you put down a slab, it's pretty
permanent.
Third, check out the door on any pre built. They tend to be small.
You'll have to wear your helmet when puttin' Rodney & the ATV inside.
So when you tradin' for the '08, & are you tradin' Rodney or the Dyna?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:40 am
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"AH#104" <ah104.RemoveThis@yourhat.att.net> wrote in message
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> for Rodney...
> and 2 kayaks
> and 1 canoe
> and 1 atv
> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>
> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I need
> one at the cabin.

Len, get a copy of the IWANNA, and look in there. You will find a bunch of
folks that make shed and deliver them. They are on skid rails so you can
even move it later if you want.
There are a few people that will even erect them on site. I've got 3 sheds,
one built permanent and 2 on skid rails.
Like everyone said go bigger than you think you will need!

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:14 am
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 05:23:28 -0700, Al <bslug205.TakeThisOut@NO_SPAM_SUCKA.com>
wrote:

>AH#104 wrote:
>> for Rodney...
>> and 2 kayaks
>> and 1 canoe
>> and 1 atv
>> and odds and ends (pool stuff).
>>
>> I don't know much (nothing as a matter of fact) about sheds... but I
>> need one at the cabin. I figured I'd put it down close to the lake and
>> it'd take care of Rodney until I built a garage. I want it made of wood
>> and keep it natural so as to fit in with the surroundings... beyond
>> that, what are the pros and cons of these pre-fab Home Depot Wally World
>> things?
>
>For them plastic sheds, a little bigger, better, possibly cheaper -
>COSTCO, but based upon the stuff you're wantin' to store in it you're
>gonna need a bigger one like a Tuff Shed.
>
>http://www.tuffshed.com/products_models.cfm?CategoryID=SB
>
>I almost got the big barn lookin' one but decided to spend another 4-5K
>and build a 26x32 shop/gge instead.

I designed mine to be over 4,000 sq ft, but built in usable phases
until I have th' bucks for th' next phase. You can't tell it's only
1/4 of what th' finished shop will look like unless I point it out.

And knowing that when completed it'll still be too small, I've got two
more phases adding an additional 2,000 sq ft, if need be.

Snarl... still won't be big 'nuff
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:16:05 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104.TakeThisOut@yourhat.att.net>
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>for Rodney...
>and 2 kayaks

You in a kayak? No, really? Smile

Pictures, please...

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:35 am
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Jinks sed:
> You studyin' up on fuel/heat management yet?

I figure between you and TL, all I'll have to do is order parts and come
down to Biketoberfest to borrow the tools.

>>Except he will lose the lowers.

> Well of course! Those are goin' on the new RG, right?....8^)

Yup. Except I'll have to do some cutting.
The crash-bar cover part of the lower extends too far inward.
So, on top of the pretty yellow color, it'll also be a bastardized
version.
Works for me.

> BTW, Congratulations!

Thanks.

Another plus is the 6 gallon tank which I will *love* having when
traveling with a certain Retarded Baker.
He'll probably ask *me* to carry along a hose and container for when
*he* runs out of gas.

40 miles a tank more mileage... I'll love that.

ASSHOLE#104 Len
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:49:57 GMT, "AH#104" <ah104 RemoveThis @yourhat.att.net> wrote:

>Jinks sed:
>> You studyin' up on fuel/heat management yet?
>
>I figure between you and TL, all I'll have to do is order parts and come
>down to Biketoberfest to borrow the tools.

Good idea! Go ahead & start ordering anytime. In fact, just have 'em
shipped here so you won't have to carry 'em down with you..............8^)
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