Salt on the roads

In article <Jsrlj.4272$hk4.1778@trnddc03>,
Outback Jon <teammft DeleteThis @ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote:

> Konrad Viltersten wrote:
> > Yet another winter question. I got a hint to put a lot of
> > oil and grease on all metal parts to help the ride not to
> > corrode. Now i wonder the following.
> >
> > Is that true that it helps?
> > What/how much should i put?
> > How bad impact does road salt have?
> > How often should one do the greasing?
> >
>
> I would think that cleaning the bike regularly if you ride on salt
> covered roads would be a better solution.

So to speak. (Water dissolves salt; get it?

> I would think that the oil
> and grease would actually help the salt stick to the bike. It may keep
> the salt from actually touching the metal areas, but I think it would
> also help keep some of it *in contact* with the areas you are trying to
> protect.

Dry salt isn't going to do anything; it's salt in solution where the Na
and Cl separate into ions that does the damage. Petroleum products repel
water, so that helps. As it turns out, there are petroleum products
specifically designed to be smeared onto your motorcycle. They have the
side effect that if you polish it to a thin coat, they leave the surface
nice and shiny. The name of the product is "Car wax".

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Salt isn't bad unless it has moisture to work with.

Rinse the boke off when you get home. It's a better option.

If you have raw (unpainted) aluminum - skip riding near salt unless you
don't give a hoot what your aluminum looks like.

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"Konrad Viltersten" <tmp1 RemoveThis @viltersten.com> wrote in message
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> Yet another winter question. I got a hint to put a lot of
> oil and grease on all metal parts to help the ride not to
> corrode. Now i wonder the following.
>
> Is that true that it helps?
> What/how much should i put?
> How bad impact does road salt have?
> How often should one do the greasing?
>
> --
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> Konrad
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> as a substitute for coffee
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Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <Jsrlj.4272$hk4.1778@trnddc03>,
> Outback Jon <teammft.RemoveThis@ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote:
>
>> Konrad Viltersten wrote:
>>> Yet another winter question. I got a hint to put a lot of
>>> oil and grease on all metal parts to help the ride not to
>>> corrode. Now i wonder the following.
>>>
>>> Is that true that it helps?
>>> What/how much should i put?
>>> How bad impact does road salt have?
>>> How often should one do the greasing?
>>>
>>
>> I would think that cleaning the bike regularly if you ride on salt
>> covered roads would be a better solution.
>
> So to speak. (Water dissolves salt; get it?
>
>> I would think that the oil
>> and grease would actually help the salt stick to the bike. It may
>> keep the salt from actually touching the metal areas, but I think
>> it
>> would also help keep some of it *in contact* with the areas you are
>> trying to protect.
>
> Dry salt isn't going to do anything; it's salt in solution where the
> Na and Cl separate into ions that does the damage. Petroleum
> products
> repel water, so that helps. As it turns out, there are petroleum
> products specifically designed to be smeared onto your motorcycle.
> They have the side effect that if you polish it to a thin coat, they
> leave the surface nice and shiny. The name of the product is "Car
> wax".

The trouble with car wax is that it's difficult to get it into the
crevices and the like where corrosion is most likely to happen.
There's some stuff called "Boeshield" that some of the folks on
advrider.com swear by. Comes in a spray can. I haven't been using it
long enough to say for sure how well it works or if it works at all,
but it's certainly convenient. Woodworkers and machinists use it to
keep the exposed metal surfaces of their tools from rusting as well.
Was originally developed by Boeing for use on marine equipment (while
everybody knows that Boeing builds airplanes, most people don't know
that they started out as a shipyard and were building ships on into
the 1980s) and later licensed for commercial sale. You can find it at
Sears, Woodcraft, or a Yamaha Waverunner dealer. They claim it works
as a chain lube as well.

Their recommendation is to reapply ever month or two and after
washing.

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In article <fn7dop01koc.DeleteThis@news3.newsguy.com>,
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:

> (while
> everybody knows that Boeing builds airplanes, most people don't know
> that they started out as a shipyard and were building ships on into
> the 1980s)

Hm. Maybe you should revise the Wikipedia entry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing#Before_1950s

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Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <fn7dop01koc.TakeThisOut@news3.newsguy.com>,
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> (while
>> everybody knows that Boeing builds airplanes, most people don't
>> know
>> that they started out as a shipyard and were building ships on into
>> the 1980s)
>
> Hm. Maybe you should revise the Wikipedia entry.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing#Before_1950s

Somebody should. Read what it says about the B-17 and B-29. Doesn't
even mention the Boeing fighters from the 20s and 30s--the first
fighter purpose-built to fly off a carrier was the Boeing FB-5.

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Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <iJUlj.5945$Yl.1204@trnddc01>,
> Outback Jon <teammft RemoveThis @ver.no.sp.am.izon.net> wrote:
>> Even Wiki has Boeing only *winning the contract* 10 months after the
>> bomb was dropped...
>
> Huh. Someone must have changed that. I can't find it.

Second paragraph:

"Beginning with the successful contract bid on 5 June 1946, the B-52
went through several designs, from a straight wing aircraft powered by
six turboprop engines, to the final prototype, YB-52 (with 8 engines),
which first flew on 15 April 1952 by Tex Johnson[5]."

(First atomic bomb was dropped on August 6, 1945)

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Timberwoof wrote:
> In article <fnan7k02vko.DeleteThis@news2.newsguy.com>,
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.DeleteThis@cox.net> wrote:
>> Still, it shows a lack of attention to detail, and also leads one to
>> wonder at the author's real qualifications if he gets that one wrong.
>> I mean it's not like they were secret or anything.
>
> Well, now! Attention to detail only limits creativity!

If either of you haven't already done so, read "Lies My Teacher Told Me"
and "Lies Across America" by James W. Loewen.

Both have some fascinating information about U.S. "History" books.

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