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Since: Jan 11, 2008
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(Msg. 241) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 pm
Post subject: Re: NSW/SYD: banning colours [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 22/01/2008 4:11 AM, Nev.. wrote:
> SteveB wrote:
>> I am all for keeping Aus spelling so that we can remain different to
>> the other culture(s). There is no superiority involved, just a desire
>> to not end up in a planet wide beige culture, possibly dictated by
>> others.
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> We're all quite lucky, that English has become the world language, and
> we're native speakers of English when most of the rest of the world have
> to learn it in addition to their own language, and in most cases English
> is more difficult to learn that their own language. Why go and make it
> more difficult for non-native English speakers by maintaining so many
> different versions of English?
As an Englishman in exile (still after 25 years - might go for the op
this year <g>) I have to take exception to the idea of English being the
native language of most Australians. You seem to forget; we still own
the source code. Australia, at best, has a limited EULA to use (or
should that be abuse?).
Running, Ducking
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(Msg. 242) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 pm
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Nigel Allen wrote:
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> As an Englishman in exile (still after 25 years - might go for the op
> this year <g>) I have to take exception to the idea of English being the
> native language of most Australians. You seem to forget; we still own
> the source code. Australia, at best, has a limited EULA to use (or
> should that be abuse?).
Hi Nigel.
It's not just a case of deciding to go for the op, you have to pass an
aptitude test first, nowadays.
Have you been back in England much in the last 25 years?
If not, you'll be in for a surprise.
You say "we still own the source code", but, from the moment you get on
the plane/boat out of UK, you stop being a part of the "we".
Arrive in Oz, and suddenly you are part of the "we" who shape and
develop Australian English...... based on a pirated copy of 200 year old
English.
All languages change over time, and those changes can be surprisingly quick.
I know when I have been back in Scotland, folk tell me how Ozzie I sound.
regards,
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(Msg. 243) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:15 pm
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CrazyCam wrote:
> No, John, it was organising a commercial boycott, as in a web page with
> the names of pubs not to go to.
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> I have a sort of feeling that doing that has actually been made illegal.
You're not organising a boycott - you're providing a public service. By
advising people of which places won't let you in, if you're wearing
colours, you're letting people have the opportunity to decide what to
wear before they turn up at said venue.
Just like a web site listing the names and locations of servos that
won't serve you if you wear a helmet.  >> Stay informed about: NSW/SYD: banning colours |
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(Msg. 244) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:10 pm
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Nigel Allen wrote:
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> Them: "So you live in Australia then"?
> Me: "Yes"
> Them: "How long 'ave yer bin there"?
> Me: "Around 25 years"
> Them: "Are yer gunna stay there"?
Aye, the Scots are about the same!
regards,
CrazyCam >> Stay informed about: NSW/SYD: banning colours |
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(Msg. 245) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:49 pm
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On Jan 17, 11:27 am, Zebee Johnstone <zeb... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> There's a move afoot in Sydney to ban people from entering pubs if they
> are wearing outlaw club colours or otherwise displaying club logos. (And
> they've named the clubs, the ones most of us think of when we think
> "outlaw club" such as Rebels and Bandidos). THe idea is the pubs
> themselves do the banning rather than this being a law as such.
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> The UMC - an umbrella group of the patch clubs, who send a delegate to
> the MCC of NSW like any other club can - has asked that the MCC as a
> lobby group become involved in fighting this.
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> As the aus.moto delegate, I need to know what the people I'm representing
> think.
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> Is this something non-patch-club riders should worry about, as an attack
> on motorcyclists?
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I dont believe so
> Is this liable to be a problem for non-patch motorcyclists, like "you
> ride bikes and we don't want you"?
>
Cant see why it should be
> Is this something we should be concerned about as citizens, that you
> get banned because of what you wear or who you choose to associate with,
> even though you personally have done nothing wrong?
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No other groups have been banned from public venues before because of
previous problems with those groups.
> In other words, is this something the Motorcycle Council od NSW should
> be involved in?
>
No they should not, its not about motorcyclists generally and its not
about their use of motorcycles either. Its because of who they are
and what they represent.
> This is a Sydney (well Paramatta so far, but it will spread) thing,
> but I believe other state groups are doing the same, in SA they are
> talking about making it law.
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> So tell me aus.moto, what do you want the MCC to do in this? Oppose the
> ban or not? If the MCC should support the UMC in opposition to the ban,
> what form should that support take?
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> Zebee
I dont think the MCC should touch it at all.
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(Msg. 246) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:11 pm
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> See how many Harleys there are now? Frasers is building a huge new
> showroom at the moment and that's not because of Ducati.
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> Zebee
But it could be to allow for expansion with their impending BMW
franchise.
Shh, I didnt tell you OK.
Al >> Stay informed about: NSW/SYD: banning colours |
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